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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Your talking to two girls from Lugansk...They both want money to continue corrispondence.... Author Post southernman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/18/2004 11:27:28 PM   I GOT THE SCAM GUIDE FROM ELENA OF ELENA'S MODELS AND SHE SAYS NEVER SEND MONEY. IT HAS HELPED KEEP ME OUT OF THAT HEAD, MIND TROUBLE. WORRY. IT IS WORTH THE LITTLE MONEY FOR PEACE OF MIND. I GOT HERE FROM A GIRL WHO REPLIED TO MY ADD ON YAHOO.YOUNG, BEAUTIFUL AND VERY SEXY. IT WAS A SCAM AGENCY. SAID SO ON GOOGLE ONCE I FOUND IT. I HAVE HAD ONE BEAUTIFUL YOUNG LADY ASK ME TO RESPOND THROUGH AN AGENCY AND PAY. I REPLIED I DID NOT HAVE TO PAY AT FIANCE AND WHY HER EXPENCE. NO REPLY FROM HER. THE AGENCY REPLY WAS WE ARE TRANSLATING FOR TATYANA AND SHE????-----. SO ON. I WOULD LIKE TO RESPOND BUT SOMETHING DON'T SMELL RIGHT.I JUST GOT A LETTER FROM AN AGENCY THAT SAID THE GIRL IS OUT OF TOWN AND WILL RESPOND WHEN SHE RETURNS. SHE SAID SHE WAS GOING OUT OF TOWN. SHE MAY HAVE ASK THEM TO DO THAT. IT IS THE TRUTH. AussieJoe Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/19/2004 12:21:14 AM   Hi to all the guys out in forum land. I admit that I am a newb to fiance.com, but i thought i might as well have my say. Personally i would be very wary about anyone who asks for money so early in your relationship- and in your place, would as politely as possible decline further contact. And now that the topic of scammers has been raised by SM above (ur right, something really doesnt smell right there), i am curious to know if any of u guys have met your wives/fiance via fiance.com before? If so how succesful was your relationship (ie are you still together)? If not why did you separate? And why did you come back here? Ive heard all the paraphenalia about FSU women as wives, but personally i am here just to see if i make a connection with anyone. If im lucky enough, maybe that will happen. Are you guys here for the same reason? I assume so. Ive heard a lot of statistics, like i think someone mentioned 70% divorce rate once they are eligible for a greencard. I think id be shattered if that happened to me. This make me very cautious. gladiatorUK Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/19/2004 1:55:15 AM   Aussie Joe: You really must see both sides of the coin my friend......of course there are a lot of scam stories about and always will be,if men are too blind or lovesick to spot the warning signs.There really are many resources that you can use to find the scam artists and their methods.However I can tell you that there are a lot of reputable agencies out there of which Fiance.Com is up there with the best of them........and before you ask I don't have any interest in their business either......:)). On a positive note for you,I am less than a month away from getting married to my lady now and our relationship goes from strength to strength.There will always be the negative side to things but hopefully that should just make you do a bit more homework before you jump in.Do the research......write away......and find yourself a good lady........good luck! idiotdetector Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/19/2004 3:10:50 AM   Aussie if you read back though this forum you will see a cople of second timers, including me. Just one thing to say, same as gladiator. Do not be a lovesick fool, as I was. I even seen the warning signed but she always smooved it over when she thought she had pushed me to far, I was a fool. But I am back as there is true honest girls out there as I have meet people here in Austrlia who are married to them with families. Happiness is across the see but so is peril!! idiotdetector Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/19/2004 3:11:16 AM   I mean sea, water that is. AussieJoe Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/19/2004 8:39:06 AM   Your right of course. These ladies are taking a very big step i guess contacting we foreigners, and i suppose it is normal to expect a certain amount of caution from them. Good luck and congratulations on the marriage urself gladiator!! Ur taking a much bigger step than i am. I think at the moment i am quite happy to keep communicating with her as much as possible, for as long as possible, and hopefully go and meet her face to face one day. To ID: i do believe there are honest girls out there, and i think i may have found one. But if you dont mind me asking, what are the warning signs? The ones i would have expected is an eagerness to leave her home, and of course requesting money. I hoped that by having a long correspondence with her might negate these, but i wouldnt mind paying for such things as internet translations. Can we set fiance.com up to do this automatically? On a side note i have to ask- does anyone else feel badly about contacting another person and corresponding with them at the same time (i mean talking to multiple people at once)? Ive had a look through some of the old threads and am slowly making my way back through them, and i note that some of you seem to be doing just that (see the name of the thread). Ive only been talking to Alya for a short time but really look forward to hearing from her and feel bad about meeting other females here, but im not sure if she feels the same way. I suppose the logical thing to do is ask her- but i dont wanna rush anything. dma Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/19/2004 9:30:50 AM   The coin as usual is two-sided. How would you feel about the woman stringing along multiple men? That's why I choose to communicate with one and one only. Eggs in one basket, I know; but it means you can focus 100% on each other and have trust from the very beginning. crashnsplash Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/19/2004 11:25:49 AM   Any one of us here focusing on one or just a few women know dam well we don't want our girls focusing on more than just us. All my attention is with just one, but if things fail I have a few contacts there that will meet me. I couldn't keep up with writing multiple girls. Then when I finally singled her out I didn't even want to continue writing the others. Maybe I should have just gone on a social, but I did it this way and I cant turn back now. Don't want to anyway. If things dont work out maybe I'll try a social if I decide to go back to Russia. GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/19/2004 12:50:26 PM   There are several independent PI agencies with reasonable fees to help you verify your ladies' background, occupation, address, work status, mere existence and of course ....GENDER!!! Personally I find it well worth the expense of verifying all of the above before making travel arrangements to meet anyone from another country. A few hundred bucks can buy you a million worth of peace of mind. Rina is right. It may very well be a 50 yr old Ivan who's asking you for money, lol. blu_craze Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/19/2004 1:03:04 PM   Say if a girl gives you her name and adress when talking to her, shes definitly not a man, but is she the same girl is the question, but about the subject you guys are on...I *&%# up. I contacted another girl on the free sight from the same city as the girl I'm talking to. Well that girl was my girls friend as was very pissed off. So two things....theyre the same people pulling a brilliant scam or I *&%# up. There are about 7 girls there from Lugansk. But I believer Galina is true, and that was her friend, being that she in a polite way said I jerk, but the thing is I emailed her telling her we had a few things in common and I would like to get to know her, I think she got the impression that I wanted to know her,..know her!! oops, she said she wasnt going to tell Galina to spare her feelings, damn, blu_craze Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/19/2004 1:05:54 PM   why do women got to so damn difficult lol....white, black,...american , foriegn. Cant live with them cant live without them, but I guess If I had a choice I would still go for the foriegn women of the over dominate american ones. GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/19/2004 1:25:35 PM   Blu, what in the world makes you think that there's something inappropriate about talking to several women at the same time?????....(as long as your western wife is OK with it) I strongly suggest you stop allowing any eastern or western woman to emasculate you by giving her exclusive e-mail communication with her. Further more, I'd advice you to TELL her upfront you have all the healthy intentions of contacting several women from her country, city, age group, eye color, height, hair length and cup size....and that you will not feel one iota of guilt in doing so. After all, you are complete strangers until you met and fall in love. Women anywhere will react differently to this approach, but the self confidence you project with this purely masculine attitude will at least earn you their respect for knowing the way you want to do things. Some in here will disagree with me, and that's fine, too. But all the women I curently plan to meet from FSU know I will not give exclusivity to anyone until after meeting them, at least once. dma Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/19/2004 1:36:12 PM   > Further more, I'd advice you to TELL her upfront you have all the healthy intentions of contacting several women from her country, city, age group, eye color, height, hair length and cup size....and that you will not feel one iota of guilt in doing so LOL. I'll pass on that one but I understand what you're saying and shared the same view in the short term. There are different recommended approaches to achieve the same objective and those approaches are often contradictorary to each other - what works for one may not work for another. I guess you have to use your own best judgement in each scenario. Playing hard to get in the beginning is fair advice making you the "catch" (not easy to get) but there has to come a point where you're not seen as a "player", reliable, trustworthy and committed. If you haven't narrowed down your love-interest to one, then it's probably okay. tradman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/19/2004 3:04:40 PM   I correspond with about4, one at the moment is head and shoulders above the others, I am meeting her in Turkey in a couple of weeks, the others are all at a find out stage, I think that this is maybe the right approach, if the girl I am meeting is as wonderful as I think, then I won't have led the others on too much, but if she is not the one, then I don't quite have to go back to scratch idiotdetector Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/20/2004 3:12:42 AM   Aussie what are the signs? good question. If I knew them I would not be doing this again because I would be happily married. All I can tell, you is take a few trips to see her before you actually bring her to your country. Is AussieJoe Aussie? I seen mine 3 times and the last trip was very telling to her true personality. When I came home I rang her and told her I thought it was not working out but she asured me that she was sorry for her bad temprerment and that she loved me and wanted to be with me. My head was thinking clearly, I knew what I must do but my heart got in the way. My thinking was also that I had invested so much time and money that I should see things through. Trust your head Aussie, your heart is always foolish. And yes I correspond with 3 girls. I like all 3 and as time goes by a different one is my favourite for different reasons but one is loosing some of my interest dur to lack of interesting correspondence. Its bloody hard to pick but for me, no other girls on this site come close to these 3 for my personal taste so narrowing it down to 3 already is good considering all the girls who want to correspond with me. But sooner or later I will have to pick. Dam these modern 1 on 1 standards. idiotdetector Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/20/2004 3:14:50 AM   And yeh, sometimes I do feel a little bad about it but as I have said before if you look back, chances are they are doing the same thing. That is a fact I know from experience. dma Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/20/2004 4:02:04 AM   > Trust your head Aussie, your heart is always foolish. True. Sometimes however your head can be unclear and if it is, step back until it clears. AussieJoe Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/20/2004 5:36:30 AM   Yes, I am indeed an Australian- and proud of it. And therein lies a part of the problem- a part of me (the brain i think) is thinking "Tread lightly- she may not be telling you the entire truth" but the other part (the heart im pretty sure) says "Jump!!" without thinking of the consequences. The brain will win (i think...), but the process of finding the right girl i fear may be a long one. And who wants to wait? Not me. > Trust your head Aussie, your heart is always foolish. Well, my head is far from infallible, but your words do have wisdom. crashnsplash Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/20/2004 5:57:42 AM   Took me since last July to weed through all the girls to find mine. It wasn't too hard to weed out the good from the bad, just took some time. Now in about 5 weeks I will find out if I was write. Its just more time for me to learn more about her before I go. Waiting sucks, but theres nothing I can do about it. So I'll use my time wisely. I think this idea of meeting then hauling ass over there as fast as you can is pretty stupid. I read alot about that way of doing things. I just think its not a good idea for success. dma Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/20/2004 6:05:33 AM   > ...Waiting sucks, but theres nothing I can do about it. So I'll use my time wisely. Ditto. A little effort each day now whilst we can will I am sure go away. You will rarely find me without a Russian phrase book dictionary or CD at hand whether working, in the car or in bed. :) Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Your talking to two girls from Lugansk...They both want money to continue corrispondence....
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