Sometimes I don’t understand your humor , but you don’t understand my exactly.
I was try to explain you , that this book is the absolutely stupid. I was want to show you , that at every medal can be 2 sides. And , as I was understand , on this book woman in 35 is still cool , but in 36 she already isn’t. what was happened in a year ?
Or girl in 24 still silly , but in 25 she already great wife. Yes, it is very clever reasoning.
I don’t have something against you , or your Lusy. I even wasn’t meet you any time in life.
I simply know , that girls at Russia are great and 18 , and 25, and at 30 , and at 40. at any age you can find so many plus – and so many minus. And at any + you can find -. If you will want.
And at every – you can find +.
Simply we are clever people , and mustn’t believe to all , what was write. Here talk – if on cage with lion write donkey , don’t believe to your eyes.
Thanks Rina, Now I'm totally confused. So what is the perfect age? 9 to 12, 53 to 78? I'm going to try to find a women somewhere in the range of 32 to 38. I'm 45. At least to me there are still alot of beautiful women in that age range. As far as your "ten examples", I think everyone here knows that to marry a Russian woman after only a quick round of speed-dating carries some considerable risks. But I for one do not have the luxury or time to fly over to Russia a couple times a week for a dinner date and to catch a movie. Yes I'm sure alot of women have other motives than love to marry a foreigner but with limited time and money, I have to do the best I can in the shortest time possible. That has always been my main concern. ( How well do I really know this person?). Of course for the decent woman out there, I'm sure she is thinking the same way and she's taking the bigger risk if you ask me. I still believe that I can and will find (my other half) in the 32 to 38 age range and hopefully she will be as genuine and pretty as her profile
Your rite Rina, what you write makes sense.
I know how you feel Dale. I don't have the luxury of travelling there for weeks or months, or going back every few months like some of these guys. Maybe I could if I was retired but thats not happening for me for a long time. I, like Dale have to do the best I can in the shortest amount of time possible. Thats why writing letters and phone talks is so critical to me and my girls success. And I think its true that in the long run she is going to be taking the bigger risk to come here to be with me.
I just have to keep thinking with the "right" head, using this time we have wisely to try and understand eachother as much as possible before I go. I think its pretty simple to understand that younger girls may not be as serious as the older ones. Just use your judgement and your common sense to realize whether you have a connection with your girl.
Your rite Rina, what you write makes sense.
I know how you feel Dale. I don't have the luxury of travelling there for weeks or months, or going back every few months like some of these guys. Maybe I could if I was retired but thats not happening for me for a long time. I, like Dale have to do the best I can in the shortest amount of time possible. Thats why writing letters and phone talks is so critical to me and my girls success. And I think its true that in the long run she is going to be taking the bigger risk to come here to be with me.
I just have to keep thinking with the "right" head, using this time we have wisely to try and understand eachother as much as possible before I go. I think its pretty simple to understand that younger girls may not be as serious as the older ones. Just use your judgement and your common sense to realize whether you have a connection with your girl.
Dale E
On what you planning to marry - on woman or on age ? if on age , that time it is useful to make long discussions, what age is better. And if on woman - you must understand , that one woman in 20 are clever, as if she will be 40, and another at 40 have mind of 17 years old girl.
You are 45. and what ? if you will meet girl , which is 27, you will not look at her only because she is 27 ? or is she will be 45 ? I think , it will be silly. Too more cleverer looking for woman. Personality. Soul. Mind. Understanding. Love, at the end of the end, but I think , that it must be at first place.
And age.. it is such a little thing. Simply before you looking for age, for volume of waist; color of eyes - you will not find woman , at which really want to marry.
And , know , there are some things, on which hurry make only worse. In world statistics from 10 marriage 9 divorce in a first year. It don’t tell you something ? so , I wish you, that you will be that 1 from 10 , who was more lucky ;)
And, don’t be too fast. But , too slowly is bad too :)
When you try to feed little kitten with milk, he will scratch you a lot ;) he will push you off , try to bite, miaow very loud. He think , that you want to drown he in this milk.;)) and all this problems - not because, that you want to make something bad for he. Simply kitten is too small to understand , that it was a milk. ;))
And age.. I think , that real woman don’t have age at all ;) she is always 17 in her soul. ;)
I think that the value of this online book is that it outlines the major political, cultural and economic sea changes in the FSU of the past few decades as background for shaping the outlooks and attitudes of FSU women. It points out three distinct eras in the recent history. 1- Soviet era, 2- glasnost and Perestroika , 3- present state of affairs. The reasonable conclusion is that girls being raised in these three periods will have different upbringings with different interactions with their families, different educations and different exposures and interactions with the West. It makes sense that older women indoctrinated in communism as girls but yet with fairly stable home economic conditions (yet without the presence of parents at home who both worked) will have a different view on life than the 25-35 year olds who grew up in dire economic times where their parents were often both unemployed (Perestroika) but generally at home. And of course the younger women will have grown up in a culture that is engaged with the west and with bettering economic conditions.
Now of course, human nature is human nature, and personalities and proclivities, good and bad habits, attitudes, ethics, values etcc have no age or cultural boundaries.
Apparently there is a real social stigma attached to women who do not marry early, do not have children, and/or are divorced. This would seem to show why so many beautiful middle age (25-35 year olds!) are available and ready to start new lives with very little game playing.
Rina, obviously the lines blur between age groupings. There are rarely hard fast cutoffs, but you make groupings for study and discussion sake.
My guess is that Rina is a college girl, as she makes reference to her professor. This would explain her defensiveness towards her age group, and a defensiveness towards her mother's age group, and her animus towards the middle agers (her cohorts main competition). Just a guess
Rina, you are right when you put the focus on "Personality. Soul. Mind. Understanding. Love, at the end of the end, but I think , that it must be at first place."
Age is an important factor though. I wonder if any information has been gathered on the ages of FSU brides and western men at marriage and marital longevity?
Marital longevity is surely affected by the age of both spouses, but I am convinced that factor alone is not the most important one, not even a crucial one.
When you look at the average mortality ages of US (84f, 82m) and FSU (64f, 61m) you see a a longevity difference of 23 years between US & FSU males.
This difference translate to more favorable chances for the western males to attract a younger FSU woman, because she knows we live longer, maintain healthier lifestyles, provide better and produce more. And these are the true goals of most FSU women who honestly seek a family lifestyle with a man from the west
When you get past the initial risks of scammers, green card seekers, abusers and other creatures that give the 'russian bride' a bad name, you can see these factors carry more weight than the mere crhonological age difference.
I'm lactose intolerant, lol...:)
However, I would easily devote myself to a woman able to prepare a good meal and a mean martini (up, chilled, dry and 3 olives, please)
BITE YOUR TONGUE, lol!!!!
On the other hand, I am curious to know more about her...providing she is actually a 'her', lol
Rina, what do you think?...are we a match mde in heaven or one made in hell?
All humor and cynicism aside, I refuse to accept the notion of anything past mere 'curiosity or attraction' to someone online.
There's no such thing as 'internet love'.
Excuse me, but I thought that a big part of the reason that we look to FSU for a wife is because the women there, are like women used to everywhere. Dependable, not so likly to run after the next bigger better deal. Follow through on a commitment. ............Now if this is the case still with the FSU women (generally speaking) then a long courtship is unecessary. You find a woman with good character that you click with and then get married and then ..deal with it.
If you can not do this with these women , you may aswell marry domestically.
Your oversimplification of the ways to marry succesfully does not fit the reality of the work and efforts needed to make things work out between two people from completely opposite cultural backgrounds.
"You find a woman with good character that you click with and then get married and then ..deal with it."
Unfortunately, the "deal with it" part in the west often means one or both spouses hire a divorce lawyer
to tear each other a new a..hole to resolve their differences and satisfy their individual interests.
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May be , my English is so bad, that you will not understand now ,that I’ll try to tell. I’ll write it at Russian too better, but , afraid , it will be even harder to understand for you :)
Forget about age. Forget this classification. It will only help you. Don’t make your head full of another’s silly ideas.
At what time girls was grow.. you talk , as about chicken. Chicken , which was grow at spring , better, then chicken which was grow at autumn , because it was eat real green grass.
Meat can be better, but not mind. Here all different from culture and traditions in a family.
It is only at Kalman’s “MonMart’s violet” ( sorry , if was write not right. I know it only on Russian ) from flower-girl. possible to make a lady. At real life such is impossible , to pity.
Culture take with mother’s milk. From childhood.
I was want to tell , that not so important , when human live, how old is human. Character is important.
But I understand , that it is very pleasure to looking for laws ;)) men always like it ;)) but - take 2 25 years old woman. They are both of one age, and was grow in one situation.
But - they will be very different. So , in this situation this work isn’t working.
I wonder if any information has been gathered on the ages of FSU brides and western men at marriage and marital longevity?
Yes, it is. I don’t like statistic too much , because it tell lie rather often , but -
It talk , that if marry was in Internet, it will have smaller in 4 times divorces, then if people will meet in life.
But there is very easy reason for it. When you see somebody in life, there are a lot of hormones. You call it * chemistry *. And often head don’t work this moments. Later - fast marry , and fast divorced.
In internet is big plus - no hormones ;))) you can only talk with each other. Know each other better. And it help to understand, will you can live with this human or not.
I think , that first meeting must be only after 3-4 month of letter. And not “ one letter in a day “. It must be often, if possible , of course. And not two lines - how weather is ? how are you ? I send big kiss for you ;))))))))))))))))))))
Good , you like each other on letters. And you meet. If you like each other , you can marry.
But ( how clever and careful government it ;))) you cannot marry soon. ;) you must wait - min half of year, before visa will be made. And usually this half of year is longer ;)))
When all is ready, girl at office tell you - sorry , but in this paper is little mistake. Change it , better start again ;))
So , you will have a lot of time to know each other. And is something not good, to go at different side too ;)) very often people start to make visa K1, but don’t finish it ;))
So , all is right. Marriage in Internet is stronger, because it was take more time ;))
From hell , of course.
And love in Internet… one my friend ( now married ) was often joking , that love in Internet is impossible ;) if you want, I’ll give you his e-mail, he will explain , that when human start to think, is love in Internet or not, it is first step to marry ;) he was meet his wife in a chat ;))
He is 45 year old. How old wife is, I’ll not tell ;))