Jet, Glad you are back safely. Quite the experience. Life is a blast! You got out with your health, wallet, and heart basically intact, so I hope that you'll chalk it up as a totally cool adventure. Besides you'll have good tales to tell your grandchildren one day! (at least you can tell part of the story to them).
I'm hoping my Moldovan experience will be different than yours though. Lucy is a self proclaimed simple person. She is not turned on by night clubs, designer clothes or my bank roll (which is a very good thing for me!). Being older (31) she really just wants a good family.
I am interested about your impressions of Moldova and Chishnau in general. Again I'm glad you are back in good health and spirits. Keep going forward!
I donīt want to offend you, but you made a typical mistake: you was much too polite to this girl. You gave her the possibility to spend some nice days with a wealthy and (sorry!) stupid and naive western guy, who opend his moneycase to buy all, what she wishes.
It is a typical cheating of those girls. I know personally some of that category who sometimes tell such stories, how they make money with stupid western guys in love. Those guys send them regularly money and you can see the girls spending it in local discos together with female and male friends.
You may buy her all this things later together in your homeland, but never in Moldova. The more you give to Moldovans, the more they want. It is their character, in private and in business.
A friend of me had a girlfriend in Chisinau for half a year. He supported her with money and so on. In the end she kicked him in his a.. and turned to a local guy. Some weeks ago, she was cheeky enough to ask my friend again, to buy her a car!!! Unbelievable for us, but not for Moldovans!
Can you imagine, that there are girls working together with some policemen only to scam foreign guys in your above mentioned way? Be sure, there are!
It is senseful to wear always a copy of your passport and visa with you. If policemen want to make trouble to you, refuse to pay and mention to inform your embassy about this kind of extorture. They will let you pass.
My agency said during the briefing before meeting my girl in Petersburg, "do not buy any expensive presents" during the first meeting, though I never intended to in the first place
WorldTraveler:
I have been head-over-heels in love in my life before. But trust me, I am not such, not have I ever been with this one. She is beautiful, though you have never seen a picture - I know you would agree. (She certainly does, as she told me point-blank "I think I am even more beautiful than last year"!! Though she lacks in modesty - when she is right, she is right.)
I spent about $80 per day - on room and board (in fine style) for the two of us - by any definition that was a bargain. If I spent a little on her - perhaps it was worth it. In contrast to what i have written before - perhaps my perspective is slightly different today. When it became evident that she simply wanted me to spend on her in return for platonic company - I simply told her that I had other names and phone numbers and that I was in Kishinev to find a wife - not a buddy I could buy presents for. There WAS considerable intimacy once the ice was broken - and though I do not know where it will go from here there were positive points. I have recontacted the other girl (refered to other posts as my other Moldovan) and may venture to Odessa in a few months to see her (fewer police than in Kishinev). I have been to Odessa to before (in reference to the question Marsh asks me) and I would certainly go back to Ukraine again.
Ensata - I was less impressed overall by Chisinau than I was by Odessa. First of all - it seems harder to find anyone wxcept my girl who could convers in English fluently. Now maybe that is because of the bad situation I was in - and it won't be true for you - but it certainly was true for me.
Also it seemed that the police were more of a problem. My girl told me that she was aware of a crack-down of some sort currently going on against foreigners. It seemed to be the case. They were very hostile and it seemed that every street had at least three of them in the Center of Chisinau.
Moldova is a hole, as a whole, but only if you set yourself up for it badly.
My other Moldovan had warned me that this girl was very, very controling and liked to have things her own way. I should have heeded her advice. I alos should heave informed this one (as difficult as that may have been) that i intended to see other women as well. She firmly believed that I had come to see only her. And my intent to inform her of my intention AFTER getting together with her was not a well thought out plan.
Live and learn - I still don't know what I wil do with this one from going back to square one and starting with a different girl all over seems logical.
from the beginning of my trips to Moldova I was glad to have a very good excuse for the girls, having no time for them: I said to be engaged very much in business and following a lack of time. It worked :-)
Your story remembers me on a girl I meet in Kishinev: 23 or 24 years, very tall and blond. Name Elena. Quite fluent in english. A real model. Meeting with her I was impressed with the precious rings she wore. She explained, that a year back she lived together for some weeks with an american guy, who rented even a house for this case in Kishinew. He bought her all and paid all. He seemed to be extremely jealous and she showed her own proudness. It went till he became too nervous and she quit him. Now he is back in the States and she has the rings:-)
But she has mom and dad - so it is a different one:-)
About police: understand, that summer vacations are near. So they have to make some extra cash. Be sure, it is only because of financial reasons.
"Be sure, it is only because of financial reasons."
Now that i could have told you !! And I wouldnt have been wrong !! Its almost Always "for financial reasons" !!!
Jet:
"I should have heeded her advice."
And mine mate !! And mine !!
But Im just glad you are back safe and well, so Im not going to say i told you so :o)) Well not about this one anyway, but I doubt you wil get in the same mess twice :o))
"Never make the same mistake twice, there are millions of new ones available" ;o))
Tim - you did give good advice concerning this woman. I must admit. The problem i have now is that I did have some genuine good times with this woman. Cannot tolerate her mother. And will ever allow myself to be under this womans thumb again again. But it seems sad and unfortunate that it has no future. She is absolutely gorgeous and intelligent but so controlling. Just today i showed some friends pictures of this woman in the clothes I bought her. Jaws dropped as they gazed - she looks that good. And she is 22 years younger than i am. When last I left her she was of the impression that we were going to do a fiance visa together. We took the pictures and filled out hte paper work. Perhaps I didn't want to upset her. Perhaps in my mind I hoped that somehow things could work out. Now I doubt that I will ever even call her again.
In the circumstances, and considering what you have gone through these past few weeks (and of course I mean the bad stuff, not the few good times you had) NO ONE could blame you for cutting this one loose.
You dont need a control freak, who blatantly wants you only for your ability to get her to the USA !!
Im certain you can find a good, honourabel and decent lady around here someplace !!!
I will say again though mate, Damn glad you are back safe !! :o))
To WT:
Actually - if you ever meet the girl who I was involved with you may note two gold rings, as well as a gold chain around her neck with an unusual pendant. Or she may be wearing the largersilverand turquoise rings and the large matching bracelet I bought her. All items were fairly modestly piced compared to the western standard promoted by DeBeers of giving an engagement ring equal to two months salary, but they certainly weren't free.
But as mentioned above, the girl you refer to wasn't mine. And mine wasn't blonde.
And to Tim: There was also another eye-effect. You might recall the comment you made when I showed you the picture of the other Moldovan and how sweet her eyes were. You might also recall that I mentioned on first meeting her our eyes met from across the room in the classic romantic sense and I was inatantly attracted to her. Unfortuantely, i was misinformaed as to her age and therefore pursued the wrong Moldovan. I am in communications with the one with the wonderful eyes and we are planning on meeting- outside of Moldova - perhaps soon. Pehaps it is destiny that I met the this one and was only sidetracked by the other. It certain would be hard to do any worse than i had it.
"You might also recall that I mentioned on first meeting her our eyes met from across the room in the classic romantic sense and I was inatantly attracted to her. Unfortuantely, i was misinformaed as to her age and therefore pursued the wrong Moldovan. "
How do I know this situation so well LOL.
Good to see you back Jet - Sorry to hera about your probs with them 'Officers of the Law'.
Yep I know the exact feeling with the eyes you describe. For some reason a Moldovan woman has some kind of charm in her eyes that just takes you (and your senses). Trust me Jet you won't be forgetting her in a hurry either. Those moments will stick with you for years. The eye contact accross the room thing I remember very well. It can be extremely powerful - almost like an animal instinct. It's really hard to describe..
"You might also recall that I mentioned on first meeting her our eyes met from across the room in the classic romantic sense and I was inatantly attracted to her. Unfortuantely, i was misinformaed as to her age and therefore pursued the wrong Moldovan. "
How do I know this situation so well LOL.
Good to see you back Jet - Sorry to hera about your probs with them 'Officers of the Law'.
Yep I know the exact feeling with the eyes you describe. For some reason a Moldovan woman has some kind of charm in her eyes that just takes you (and your senses). Trust me Jet you won't be forgetting her in a hurry either. Those moments will stick with you for years. The eye contact accross the room thing I remember very well. It can be extremely powerful - almost like an animal instinct. It's really hard to describe..
Hi Turboz:
Nice to see you back! Haven't heard from you in a while. As an oldtimer (no offense of course, but I recall you were very active in this forum when I first discovered it more than a year ago) I hope you have read of my "adventure" to Moldova. A little less pleasant than my trip to Odessa last year.
I hope to see the one with the eys again in July - if I can complete the million things i have in my schedule before that.
jet
....."Actually - if you ever meet the girl who I was involved with you may note two gold rings, as well as a gold chain around her neck with an unusual pendant. Or she may be wearing the largersilverand turquoise rings and the large matching bracelet I bought her".....
I wish you had gone to see the "eyes" one this time mate, but at least you are going to do it now :o))
Maybe I should start charging for my Eye analysis of women :o))
I also wish I had tried to be a lot more convincing when we talked about it before you went, but never mind, you know for sure now that the one you have seen already isnt the right one, and maybe the "eyes" one is :o)
Life can be so fecking weird sometimes :o)