"........In public places standing with hands in pockets, loitering, slouching and lounging around along with chewing gum are considered poor manners, as is laughing and talking loudly...."
I think the loud talking, is one of the main reasons why american tourists are so disliked just everywhere they go.
I wish there was a mandatory Tourist 101 class taught in every american college.....er...make it every High School, instead.
Trad, Hope your stay in moldova was good. Am glad to hear your report as it contrasts with Jets. It is good that people were friendly and did not get uptight about the slipper thing. i did purchace a pair of Bison hide slippers on line though (were originally over 100 bucks sale 35). Hope to hear more of your experience as i get ready to leave in 2 weeks.
lol@TOAD....Ensata, feel free to ask anythng...Landing at the airport and filling in my visa, having my luggage checked, and being asked how much money I had were new experiences for me, as I am just used to walking through customs into any country, some people got very pissed off, I just took it as a new experience, but then I am very laid back.....I was told it was not advisable, but many times when she was at work, I walked into the town centre on my own....a few men gave me slightly funny looks when they could hear me speaking English to Svetlana, but nothing very sinister...every girl I came into contact with beamed a smile when I said thank you in Russian.
Once I paid for some ciggarettes in the supermarket and forgot to pick them up, even knowing I was English, two men and three girls, ran out of the shop to tell me..so I would say Ensata, show respect, but not fear, be polite, and you will be treated well
Toad .. No problem withe the photo.. Except I'm bringing my "Tickle Me Elmo" slippers not the bunny slippers. No charge for the photo either.
It's friggin 3:35 a.m. here. Can't sleep, so I'll give this a few minutes and try again.
Trad.. I am planning on bringing some small (but in some instances somewhat costly) gifts with me for Lucy and her family. WTraveler said that this is customary in Moldova. Just wondering if it would be safer to bring them carry on or regular luggage? I would like to bring a nice pocket knife for her brother-in law. Obviously this could not be done carry on, do you think it would make it through by regular luggage? Otherwise I'll bring him a bottle of some good booze. Have heard tale of customs agents helping themselves to stuff in peoples luggage. Lucy is a big fan of riding the bus, I wold like to rent a car there. Did you have any experience on local busses there? And how are the drivers there? Any hassles with the visa at the airport, any problems with using debit or charge cards? and finally what is your opinion of air Moldova? Lots of questions, I probably don't know enough to ask the right ones. But any answers would be great! Thanks!
Ensata, The gifts idea is a good one. I wasn't sure what to bring to Saint Petersburg, and, being a procrastinator, I waited until I was at the airport in New York. This turned out to be good, because I was able to find gifts for the whole family at the Duty Free shops... booze for the parents, toys for the kids, perfume for the special lady... and it was inexpensive, and well received. I recommend it.
Hello all! I met a beautiful girl from Ukraine. I have learned quite a bit from her and these posts. Is there any advice you all might have on how to make her feel me comfortable with me and maybe win some kudo points. I already realized how whistling, even it is a song, can seem offensive. She really doesn't like that. I am trying to learn the language but it is very difficult. I'll keep trying though! Anyways, she is a wonderful person and I know she feels the same for me. But I just want her to realize that I appreciate her and her culture. I live am stationed In Germany with the military so we usually speak German, although we both are experts at it. Any adive you all might have will be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks!!!
We have a proverb if you are whistling then you won't have the money. This is expecially bad in the house or the flat. The street...it's not the best idea as well.
when I was in Moldova, I paid no heed to these things, I sing everywhere, walking down the street, in the car, I wistle, I forgot to take slippers(apparently a major faux pas in Moldova) I acted exactly the same as I would in England, no-one seemed to take offence
I have met two russian and one ukrainian women here in the states. All said the same thing about how foolish they felt once they learnt the many uses that whistling has in the west.
Just one of the many many many things that are different between cultures.
As I said many times..."When in Rome....."
I'm not sure about how it is in other countries, but here superstitions about money are the most powerful, like don't whistle in the house or there won't be money; don't give the money in the evening but do it in the morning or you will give out "all" your money and you won't have any money for some time; don't give the money over the threshold or you won't have any money and so on and so forth...
I myself try to keep to some of the superstitions, though I don't believe in them, I do that just in case:))))
If talking loudly is bad manners I'm in a world of shit. I hope sign language is acceptable then.
I don't have to worry too much about whistling, since I had my two front teeth knocked out playing hockey and had false ones drilled into my skull I can't whistle like I used too.
Ptichka, give us a run down, especially since I'm going to Ukraine in November of some of the things I should take care in not doing. I would in no way want to shed a bad light on the lady I'm going to be with.
Mike well as for things that not doing...hm a rather hard question:)
I will name some things which I will be able to think out:)
Of course don't use the obscene language, here many men and sometimes girls use it, but it's not in our traditions and makes a really bad impression.
Talking loudly here is not considered to be a bad manner, SHOUTING is considered to be a bad manner especially if it's on the street or in the bar. Actually argues between 2 people even if they are in love on the street or in a bar or in a restaurant are considered to be a very bad way to behave, when you will be home with your beloved then you can shout as much as you wish to, but not in the street.
the clothes should fit the situation you find yourself in. If it's going to an expensive restaurant with your girlfriend for a romantic dinner, I think it's no need to say that you shouldn't wear jeans or shorts???:)
As for the money, as I said already don't give the money in the evening it's better to do that in the morning.
It would be better if you called the parents of your girl on their first names and patronymic names (though this may differ from family to family, but usually it's the best way to show your respect). And I would also be very careful with the degree of familiarities in your relation with your girls parents. Of course being too cold is not good, but being just like friends is not good either. (Though as I said different family may have different views on that:)
Arguing in a bar???Go to a Chicago bar and listen to the Cub and Sox fans argue. It's not disrepectful, it's a way of life. Funny how countries see things different.
You're welcome Mike!!!:)
Well here it's not too good to argue and don't let others have a nice and pleasant evening, and it's not good when you spoil others their rest with arguing...it's just that for us here going to a bar is like having rest, and nobody wants for it to be spoiled.
Of course I assume there are places where people of same interests get together, and they stay there and have fun there, but neithr they go to other places nor usual people go to the places where they get together...actually each person chooses what is best for him:))
Well said Trad... I found the same in the Ukraine as you did in Moldava. Although I always wore slippers in doors:-) My girl pointed this out to me right away and sent me home with a pair to wear in my house:-) I still do it to this day. I have found everyone to be very friendly and helpful except the taxi drivers.
I'm going on a trip to Russia tomorrow (I'll be in Orenburg).. I've been doing my research, but is there anything that a 21 year old California girl should know before entering the country? What is normal casual dress? Acceptable etiquette in public? ANYthing! haha thanks for the help!