Stay focused, ID, lol....
Don't stray from the more important task of being a good man at the mere sight of the latest Armani style..:)
At my advanced tender age, I am more than set on what I am willing to bring to the table and I have a crystal clear understading of what I am able and willing to offer my future wife and contribute towards our future relationship.
Not knowing the full detailed list of her expectations requires that I, and just about every other man as well, keep a certain level of flexibility to add/change/delete as we go along.
Once again, I refuse to anticipate or predict what Olga is going to come up with, lol.....but it should be very very very interesting...:)))
"...a man marries a woman hoping that she will never change.
a woman marries a man hoping that he will change...."
t49,
those are some of the most common reasons why men and women divorce so often in wholesale massive quantities.
It would be honest, effective and simple common sense if both men and women would make their expectations perfectly clear to each other before they get married.
The immediate result would be many less painful, costly divorces as well as marriages that should have never been in the first place.
LOL, I have had this discussion with my intended, told her I was marrying her and I did not want her to change, so this better be the real you, and advised I was not going to change either(we can all change very small significant things)
Women from all over the world, yes including FSU or USA would be able to get the best out of any man they want if they finally understand the fundamental five "primal male directives" needed for any man to achieve happiness or Nirvana or exctacy levels of conciousness
Eat
Sleep
Poop
Sex
Money
Any other claims we may make at any time to any women are made for the sole purpose of achieving or recovering or continuing one of the five directives mentioned above.
P.S. to above:
you might as well give her the money,because she is going to get it anyway,and if she has to take it,she will punish you for making her take it.
so,be smart,and give it to her.
Way to go Toad! Olga ask us a simple question, What are we looking for in Russian women, and you come up with Poop! If that is to your liking, I suggest you check out a russian escort service and tell them, "Give me the kinkiest girl you've got". Some women will do anything if the money's right. I hope when the girls from the women's forum ask Olga what our response were, she doesn't say that they were full of Poop! :o) Help us out with your articulate babble but please don't scare off the women. I am still looking and haven't made any firm commtments.And get a grip on your sick fetish!!!!!!!!! LOL
-Actually, since the dawn of history the list mentioned above has been as short as
Eat, Survive, Reproduce
and it's only very recently that other more 'luxury' items have been added.
(like stamp collection, etc.)
another matter:
May Fair Lady has a line: "Why can't a woman be more like a man" - that was supposed to be at least half-joking. When the Feminists ask "Why can't a man be like a woman" they are dead serious.
But what if I don't like to be in touch with my feminine side?
Hello Olga, I wish to add to this forum the qualities that my girlfriend Irina has, that I find very attractive in a woman:
She is kind and caring, thoughtful, and creative.
She enjoys the simple pleasures in life: cooking for her man and sharing an intimate dinner, walking in a park, receiving flowers that were picked by me...
She is loyal and honest. She is proud to be my woman, as I am proud to be her man.
She really doesn't mind that I snore. She will joke about it when I am with her, and she misses it when I am far away.
She cares about her appearance: She dresses beautifully, and wants to look her best, everyday (and at night ;0).
I also love how she tells me what she wants from me:
She says to me "a man should shave in the morning for work, and at night for his woman." I like this much better than "you look like a bum, you need to shave!"
So, I shave at night, for my woman....;0)
First of all what men want in a women might depend on age social status and country of origin, or in us maybe even on state of origin.
What GLT listed are probably the American republican conservative views (there are also Philippine and Thai women).
Some Frenchman or Italians might also subscribe to those views. but Germans and Dutch far less
Some men might though want more off a full partner than to a pretty leech (arm toy).
I've seen in the women's section of this forum that the "real man" is a man that can support them while they sit home and bake cookies and that protects them (from what? being poor, not being able to buy more shoes than her friends?).
This is clearly not the type of woman I'm looking for.
What I somewhat hoped for in a fsu women was a well educated women that understands that for a decent life there are two to tango, both trying there best, as well as a woman that might appreciate the men's effort to try even if it might not always result in mountains of shoes.
Russian women where on some sites described as hard working women who are used to some hardship and support there men through thick and thin, without losing the niceties of women hood . Unfortunally i get the idea, also influenced by the some rich American chauvinist, that the spoiled arm toy (esp. in the Ukraine) is taking over.
My personal wish list:
Somewhat well educated,
Somewhat smart (for emotional and practical reasons)
Practical it is probably her that moves to the other country so she gets the problem of having to learn a other language, culture and possibly after a while also get a (part-time) job.
emotionally ,except for tatiany simenink and ... dumm blonds are not my type.
Somewhat cute (strangely enough this appears to be quite often an important feature)
Somewhat pretty, sufficient hair, NICE SMILE, pretty face. (not the model type although in the about 1000 nice women i've seen there are though a handful off the bikini model type ;=).on my favorite list, those seem to work quite well apparently.
Having a lot off character (maybe a little bit in the way as what is expected of guy's)
A little spunk, for example I like a women who tells me that she loves to go camping with her 12 year old son a lot more than one that knows how to do here nails perfectly or create diner or so. On the other hand when they mention that they are good in creating home coziness i do see that as a good quality.
Not a necessity but i seem to like women who are a little bit nuts or artsy (maybe to day that i like her to have lots of character)
Age general between 27 and 43 (seems to depend on my mood and the age and quantity of her kids p.s. i'm 39 myself)
Rather a women that looks 35 and is 40 than a women that looks 35 and is 30.
And probably not having all of the above because than she probably scares me off as to good a catch.
Not a single one of the above mentioned has been a demand so far, the women i've bookmarked so far are though of a very with variety (ages 20-55, from secondary special to two masters, zero to four kids)(the only problem with the 2 that had 4 kids is that i can't afford them unless they can afford it themselves)
Maybe a bit of a beta mind (there is a relative larger number of programmers and dentist on my favorites list but also teachers and translators designers and engineers as well as housewives)
And i don't know if it is important but on some of my fun searches i've discovered that women that drink occasionally as well as a lot seem to be nicer than women that don't drink.
I don't care if she smokes as long as it is not as a chimney, but only socially. (i don't smoke)
A bit sporty, firm legs are nice, not the model type skinny.
This was a bit of a brainstorm type of writing style. I look in a way that i let my subconcius decide and then try to rationalize afterwards (i believe that the first might be the most important one in a relationship as long as the second one is not to off.) Therefore there doesn't seem to be a single rule that allways applies although a few seem to be recurring features. that is maybe in short a full package girl (quality of character and mind) with instant familly features and not to girly, not having the characteristics that seems to happen when girls seem to think that they are pretty.
thats some list>>LOL.....we are not in competition, my woman is smart, incredibly assertive at work and in dealings with the public, but oh so feminine and girly with me, I agree, I do not fancy the model type, she is the pretty girl next door. I also kbow she cares nothing for materialism, just an average standard of living and emotional wealth....yes, I have won the lottery of life
I have a suggestion. Tonight I decided to cheat and cruise the ladies forum. Anyone who wants to get a clue of the mindset of the women of the FSU this is a must read. I got a great insight on the what they are looking for without a list. Not much different than most of us are looking for.
I won't give out her name but they actually have a Toad in their midst. As scary as that sounds. Also I don't know what Olga gets paid but it isn't enough. Being a referee to two genders is a real bitch!!
The girls give her as much a rough time as we gents do.
They also dislike scammers as much as we do. This hampers their search for a decent guy as much as it affects the men getting ripped off. Their forum is not near as large as ours, but the information is invaluable! I don't usually spend three hours reading this forum, I did theirs. It was truly worth the price of admission on fiance.com
I had thought about that but decided to wait. It would be too much like as a child, waiting for parents to leave the house so I could unwrap and retape presents a week before Christmas!
I have a suggestion. Tonight I decided to cheat and cruise the ladies forum. Anyone who wants to get a clue of the mindset of the women of the FSU this is a must read. I got a great insight on the what they are looking for without a list. Not much different than most of us are looking for.
I won't give out her name but they actually have a Toad in their midst. As scary as that sounds. Also I don't know what Olga gets paid but it isn't enough. Being a referee to two genders is a real bitch!!
The girls give her as much a rough time as we gents do.
They also dislike scammers as much as we do. This hampers their search for a decent guy as much as it affects the men getting ripped off. Their forum is not near as large as ours, but the information is invaluable! I don't usually spend three hours reading this forum, I did theirs. It was truly worth the price of admission on fiance.com
Later All
Mike
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