Let's throw a spanner sideways into this chicken run. Nope, Kevin said nothing of the kind, in fact never mind who said what where or when. But it's true nonetheless...
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Prime Minister Kevin Rudd - Australia : Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia , as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks.
Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques.
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'IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali , we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians'.
'This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom'. 'We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society . Learn the language!'
'Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture...'
'We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us.'
'This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom, THE RIGHT TO LEAVE.'
'If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted.'
Quite right too. There's nothing wrong with being proud of your country, and wanting to keep it the way it is.
I was in Perth a few years ago when a few Asian groups were featured on the news, complaining that Australia Day made them feel isolated and unwelcome. I joined all of my Ozzy mates (including my then wife) in being incredulous. Apart from laughing, nobody batted an eyelid at this. We all continued painting our faces, putting on the t-shirts, taking an esky full of VB stubbies to the shore and waited for the fireworks. I'm a brit, but for the day I was a skip, and I was welcomed, because I became one of them, not expecting them to change for me. In eight years of going there, I've always been treated well, with friendly 'Pome' jibes part of the banter - which I love.
I only wish the UK would have half of the relaxed but firm pride in itself and it's culture that Australia does. A lot to learn for many of us.
Not that any of this means I'm about to vilify 1.5 billion people with one swoop.
Australia is one of the most ethnically varied cultures in the world, with many muslims standing right behind those making the statements quoted above.
australia would all be speaking dutch or spanish if captain cook had not colonized it-and if the spanish got there you would just be another spanish speaking basket case just like the rest of spanish and portuguese speaking south america
It is true what the prime minister of Australia said about Muslims and other immigrates from Eastern countries ( perhaps, any country) who enter Great Southern Land.
Good post Thunderdome.
A little while ago, on the front page of the Melbourne Sun- Herald paper, here is a Muslim man ( late 40's), who has 7 kids, who has been on welfare in this country for 17 years.
Mum walks the streets ( photo also in the paper), wearing her traditional clothes, showing only the eyes.
How the fuck can you be allowed to enter a bank, school OR walk the streets with your identity hidden?
Can someone enter their local bank with a bike helment on and see what happens, Or wear a pocket knife on your hip after daylight working hours???????
This Muslim man wears he's white muslim clothes and I think to myself, what is this person contributing to our society?.
How is this person fitting in with our community and our lifestyle values?
Answer, Their not!
And theres plenty of this type of filth that this weak Government easily allows into this country.
I won't mention the muslim doctors that have been in the papers recently ( last 6-12 Months).
One doctor located in a small country town in New South Wales, along the Murray River, has been ' loosing' he's elderly patients ( improper treatment and medicine).
He's mentality to nursing staff concerns is, ' They are old, what can you do for these people?'
True story. Supreme court case following.
Would anyone like that for their close elderly family ties from muslim scum????
Oh, how i wish we had an American mentality with dealing with this.
The Australian Day riots that happened in Sydney a while ago was against young Muslim men, 15 years and up.
Even with Mom and Dad not working, son's have BMW'S, convertible merc's and nearly ALL deal in drugs, living in houses worth $600,000 and up.
You can pick 'em out, real easy in Canberra, ACT. Flash paint jobs, lowered and with mag wheels worth 3-4 weeks wages.
Licence plates read, ' Lebo' or ' 4dbabes'.
All of these young men, think non Muslim women are scum and therefore they think they can group rape the young Australian infidels.
I'm sure this type of mentality is not limited to these shores.
Have a look in England, look at the imported shit that's living there.
If the Government of ANY country gives them 'free range', it's no wonder they can afford to have 7 or more kids, while non muslims are only affording having 2.3. ( even the local Coons wouldn't be happy with this if they sobered up enough to give a fuck)
2.3 kids per family is globally accepted ( this number changes according to western country) as insufficient for that culture's survival and job skill survival.
This is why population analysts predict, Germany will become a muslim dominant state by 2025, to be followed by England, hence the racists problems against the English BNP party in England.
Has anyone tried ordering a Jack Daniels in a muslim dominated country or thought about taking a slab a beer while fishing ( or anything really) in a muslim country???
I think to date, there is 2-3 boats a week arriving in Australian waters from Indonesia since January 1st, 2010.
I constantly work between 5-7 days a week to get by.
I own a 2005 Fat-Boy, that has only 'clicked up' 3,000 KLMS. In other words, I'm always working.
It piss's me off to see how weak our politicians are. Governments world wide need to grow some ' dangly bits'.
Have anyone watched a beheading or hanging, or shooting on youtube from these muslims countries????
Just a thought!
I don't know where dansing got that article, but rarely, do I hear of Satanists. The last time I read about Satanists were decades ago. It is saying the first President Bush was a satanist is really unbelievable to me. How would the second President Bush allow that? Whether or not anyone agrees with him, GW Bush wrote scriptures in almost all of his orders for the war, or something like that.
Might be worth pointing out, RB, that Satan quoted scriptures to Jesus during his temptation in the wilderness. The fact is, Satan knows the Bible better than any of us.
But I digress...
I believe I made mention earlier to reactionary conspiracy theorist nutters, although I suspect that our resident troll is actually having a laugh with that post. Although some people actually believe this stuff (it progresses to ruling elites which are actually sentient lizards building spaceships in secret underground cities - seriously), I don't think Danny's actually one of them. Don't play his game by taking him seriously.
Actually, I used to enjoy a bit of satanic worship on tv when I was a kid. It was the only movie genre that would garantee at least one full frontal nude shot during the sacrifice at the alter bit. Somehow I don't think those girls were virgins though.
My brothers and me all chipped in and bought a portable so we could watch Hammer house of horror late saturday night.
Never saw any of the aformetioned...hence my original surprise.
I married a what would probably be termed as model quality woman named Ludmilla age then 28. We were married for 6 years, with one child. I sponsored her parents for permanent resident visas. The very day that she received word from her father that they received their visas, she started cheating on me. We knew 5 other Russian woman / American man couples. Only one of them is still married, and she is threatening divorce. The girls all know how generous divorce settlements are, and they plan on them. They want at least one kid to assure child support payments.
Bottom line: they are from a land where morality does not exist.
Kindness is seen as weakness to be exploited. Cheating on a man is just no big deal to them. Lying is OK for them, -but not acceptable when man does it. Double standards and refusal to accept responsibility like you have never seen. It is all about exchanging sex for a better life - nothing more.
Fran, you said Russian. Are all of these couples Russian or other FSU? I am satisfied with the morals of my gf, or at least what I see them to be. I don't think you can make a blanket statement like that. We shall see.
Four years ago I married a wonderful Russian lady 13 years younger than myself, it was a pleasure walking in public with her and watching all the married men admiring her. After 18 months she became homesick and wanted her children around her continuiously, we parted and she returned to Russia. I gave her enough money to start her business again and we parted as friends. There are many different stories to this fsu thing... this is my personal story. She did not want a green card or even to live in the USA... she only wanted me to live with her in Russia.
Thanks for your personal story. It shows once again that these women don't all fit into a few simple categories. Like all relationships, these international pairings blend a variety of hopes, fears, desires and values.
If you don't mind telling more, at that time, when she was missing her children, how old were they -- already grown? A friend of mine worries that his lady will miss her young-adult son.
For myself, I have given a lot of thought, to how difficult it can be to become an expatriate. Among those women who are sincere in seeking a good marriage, my worry is that many of them haven't gotten their heads around what a big, challenging, and often painful dislocation this can be.
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