"Girls dream of domestic bliss with ordinary blokes twice their age."
I believe many of us here in the forum can get away with marrying someone younger, or at least, considerably younger than the women available locally. Whether or not to sustain it is another matter. It will cost some money, but the sophisticated maybe able to get away with most of it with promises. The promises do not have to be kept if the woman bails. My point is that although it may look like a lie, it can be interpreted as exaggeration or a variation of the truth.
The Admiral Hirohito "ridiculous" quote can also be interpreted the same. Many have already attributed that quote to him, and it could have been found in his diary as one of the movie writers says it was. I had to look that one up. I do remember the quote, I just didn't know what official said it. I am sure others here had the same problem. I could be wrong, but how many readers here would know what quote you are talking about?
Perhaps the problem here is you are too far into the forest to see the trees. You used that thread to point out many of here's critical thinking's about how to spot lies. Yet, either by substance or presentation, I do not believe you have established your position to be the truth, and the other side, lies.
Let me give your example of the giraffe getting a shorter neck because he smoked cigarettes. (I will not go back to scrutinize the accuracy of this. As I stated previously, I don't care.)
I believe the giraffe having a long neck is what you point out that gun violence will decrease with gun control. You went into elaborate explanations of this. You gave Australia, with gun control's statistics that is lower than those countries with no gun control. Fair enough.
With all that writing, I hope you took time to read the responses. I said I accepted the statistics, but they do not prove your statement to be true. You did not address the crime increase on the cities in the US where they tried gun control and the crime increased or stayed relatively the same. You did not respond to my question that asked what Australia's crime rate is as compared to before their gun control. You took time to give one set of statistics. Why not, if you want to prove your point?
I am not asking you to prove your point now. I don't know if it's enough to prove it. I am just pointing out you have not proven it. I think it was strange that you used that thread to lecture about the lies in the FSU based on your unproven truths and the other side's unproven lies.
Your analogies confuse the issue. Why argue about Hirohito's quote or giraffe's long necks? Analogies, and examples and metaphors have their place. But, only to the point where the readers understand them. They should not become the subject. It becomes the subject when one has to ask about its meaning or have to look it up.
I did, every word. You are the only person who showed an open mind on that thread, which I sincerely appreciate.
"they do not prove your statement to be true"
Which statement? This is the point where lonely seems to have gotten completely lost. I showed that a particular argument (not posted by lonely) was logically invalid. That is not the same, as saying that the opposite of the argument must be true.
I know you don't like my analogies, but sometimes I don't know any better way to explain something. Suppose Joe says, "every car on this street is red, therefore all cars are blue." Roger objects: "but Joe, that can't be right. None of these cars are blue -- they're all red! And my brother's car is white." Roger has shown that Joe's reasoning is wrong, but he does not assert the opposite. Roger isn't arguing, for example, that "no cars are blue." Is Roger pro-blue-car? Is he anti-blue-car? Maybe he's just pro-truth. As far as I can tell, lonely can't or won't understand that.
I said that claiming that the kinds of gun restrictions found in Australia and UK will make the US extremely violent, is a completely nonsensical argument. It's an argument that argues against itself, and discredits the person making it.
I didn't say that because Australia and UK have lower violent crime rates than the US, that proves that gun restrictions reduce crime. Nor did I say what US gun laws should be. If you show me where I made any such claim on the 'Gun Control' thread, I'll send you $100 by Western Union -- I mean that.
Which statement? This is the point where lonely seems to have gotten completely lost. I showed that a particular argument (not posted by lonely) was logically invalid. That is not the same, as saying that the opposite of the argument must be true."
I misinterpreted your statistics on Australia having a lower crime rate than other countries because they have gun control. OK. You explained it. Did LR believe that statement by someone else? Instead of going through an elaborate post completed with statistics, why not just quote it and say it's false? That can be done in a few simple sentences.
"If you show me where I made any such claim on the 'Gun Control' thread, I'll send you $100 by Western Union."
I am tempted to go look for one, but I am not in need to make my point and that's not how I want to make money.
Dunt:
“Loonyranger deletes a guy from facebook and then monitors his activities
Ok that's definitely strange ....
And this is a guy that wants pictures and information on my family ... What a nut job”
I still have some of Ralph’s letters on fb, the last one was two years ago yesterday! During that time, I’ve looked in once or twice, usually after someone talks about him on the 4um! Is that strange to you???
Well,,, I’m missing supper to deal with some of this $hit!!
First off,,, what f-ing statement am I not getting??? You did do a lot of writing durak.
I checked several websites of quotes,, and you know, many had different versions of them,,, but most of the time, the meaning or essence was the same.
You seem to believe that ONLY the pro gun sites can distort the information.
That quote from Admiral Yamamoto, even if it’s not genuine, it’s accurate. The number of guns that we own should be a good deterrent for any foreign enemy.
For self defense purposes, guns work best as a deterrent. Nobody wants to be on the business end of one.
Annie Oakley? I’ve never worried about them not having enough guns to play with once they make it to America. I’m more worried about the erosion of civil liberties.
You used stats from the UN,,,, the UN is becoming part of the problem.
Why is it that crime goes up in places where we have more gun control?? Some countries that have the highest rate of gun ownership, also have the lowest gun crime. Why
I’m all for crime control and criminal control,,,, but why are some trying to control law abiding citizens?
This is for everyone except danny!! Danny,,, do not read!!
This is a repost from someone danny has spent years attacking!
“Fun is one thing, but if one truly respected his lady he wouldn't put such a thing on a forum and I'm sure others would agree. Though the truth be known she didn't even know you did it since you posted as Irina and the salon. You're just a complete ass. You have the audacity to call my wife a whore? Jesus you are such an idiot. That's the best the "Liar from Adelaide" can come up with. Who would claim on a forum like this that they have video of whoever he may claim it to be giving him head. That's how you compliment your lady, or show what a complete ass he is?
So tell us all about the trip to Israel and Chelny all the time you were emailing me from Oz?
Danny has also claimed he has talked to people in my hometown and my children. How many children do I have danny and what is my hometown?
Also spoke with some woman who knew me from my hometown? Really that's also interesting since I haven't lived in my hometown in over 35 years.
Which Child was danny and what was their names liar.”
“Since certain Cretins like to send serial PM's I figured I would create a blog just for him. Show his lack of character and gutlessness along with his habitual lying that goes on in the forum. We've had many like this idiot, but not to the degree of stupidity he has laid out in this forum. He has made a habit of insulting new and old members, directly attacking their girlfriends and wives and then brags that he is the only one here with a valid relationship. He has bought his woman if she really exists. I doubt it myself and I know in April when I go to Ukraine, he won't be anywhere around. I will have that figured out before then and expose this fraudulent harasser. Each day brings a new PM and an insult towards my wife, who has nothing to do with this place. Though this coward thinks he's a badass by doing it. It will catch up with him and he will be exposed for the fraud that he really is. No woman, no child on the way, no nothing. He's to ignorant and uneducated of an idiot to land a real woman. The only way possible is using money if he really has what he brags about, but then he's been proven a liar on that on various occasions. He has a vehement jealousy of anything American. Isn't smart enough to research anything when he posts his idiotic diatribes. My wife who has been speaking English a little over 5 years, has better spelling and punctuation than this moron, which makes me wonder where he is really from? He said he never touched a computer until he came to Russia now he has a litany of them. Some guys on the forum cannot be trusted. He is obsessed with attacking me via PM but hides behind his block. Only a loser does that.”
"One day long ago there was a woman who didn't whine, bitch or complain. But that was long ago and it was just one day"
And her name was Ragingbull a pedophile!
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I have told my daughter about you. She is in fear of her safety.