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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > BESLAN, Russia Author Post scottlf Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/15/2004 10:10:11 AM   Purposely flying your plane into a target with the intent to kill your enemy (military or civilian) regardless of the cost of your own life is very much the act of a fanatic. I find no difference between using atomic weapons and standard bombs. This was done in the European campaign by the Germans, the British (and Americans that I'm aware of), and the Soviets. That doesn't mean I approve of it, just that it happened. Mike, Personally, I consider Sherman a war criminal. Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/15/2004 2:36:55 PM   I only mentioned Pearl Harbour next to 9/11 because they share a suicidal airstrike literally out of the blue and in peace-time. Extremely effective due to massive damage at relatively little cost, however possible only because of the best 'guiding'-mechanism there is - sacrificial human. This is what Beslan also had - and this contributed to the damage done. This simple fact makes these acts so dangerous, because if human survival cannot be used as a lever there's simply no hold. And Buran, no cowardice - fanaticism rather, ingrained within, an indoctrination-process so well executed that the actual sacrifice is looked forward to, honour to the family. That is unnatural in scientific words, dangerous in military one's, and crazy in anyone's language. As it is interwoven lately with a specific religion go figure how the majority views that culture as a whole. scottlf Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/15/2004 2:50:41 PM   I don't really think it was out of the blue. FDR goaded Japan into a war. It may have been a surprise to the general populace, but I think the administration was counting on it. Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/15/2004 3:00:07 PM   Yeah, you're right - that explains the damage then. Now tell me the WTC was in a dodgy condition and the demolition-quote too high? scottlf Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/15/2004 3:36:39 PM   Not at all. I'm stating FDR wanted the U.S. in the war in Europe along side England. However, the majority of U.S. citizens were opposed to entering the war. It was very easy to goad Japan into attacking us, and thus get us into the war. Our oil embargo was one of the most effective ones. nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/15/2004 7:06:27 PM   No doubt FDR was trying, never in Modern Naval Warfare did aircraft carriers steam alone with out destroyer escort. They did previous to December 7th. Naval intelligence decoded encrypted Japanese messages about the attack and were told to stand down by the administration? That is curious at least. Japanese pilots were amazed when they flew into the harbour that no aircraft carriers were moored as they thought they would be. Admiral Yamamoto being a very ingenious naval officer, if he new for a minute the carriers were steaming alone he would have sent dive bombers after them. That would have truly been shooting fish in a barrel. Also a little Japanese naval trivia. The A6M which became known as the zero, code name by US zeke, was seldom used as a sucide bomber, it was to important of an aircraft, it was used in last ditch efforts in that way. The Nakajima B5N known as the Kate was sometimes used as a suicide bomber, The suicide planes and they were specifically designed for that purpose was the Yokosuka MXY7 Ohka, known by code name Baka and The Nakajima Ki-115 Tsuragi, a kin of the Kate were the aircraft. I hope that interested you, I'm somewhat a Naval History student and a former Gunnersmate in the US Navy, not all of us sat at sea and did nothing but smoke dope LOL! Scott, being being from the south I might be inclined to say Sherman was a war criminal, but I won't, he detested war, but I could understand his position and resolve. Man Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/17/2004 3:15:01 AM   an interesting article from the Daily News. At the end a web site is given for any wishing to send relief to Beslan victims. http://www.nydailynews.com/09-12-2004/news/wn_report/story/231241p-198579c.html Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > BESLAN, Russia
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