Thanks Jet you fill me with a wonderful hope. Best of luck to you. I am sure you have experienced the same crap as me and you deserve all the goodnesss the world can (finally) offer you.
Many thanks for sharing the joy.
Steve
Thanks Trad, once again best of luck. You all give me hope but I repeat, if I wanted a grasping tugboat who wants to run the show without contributing I would still be subscribing to Yahoo Personals. Thank God for the pretty little scam artist that got my interest piqued with this approach. God bless her(him), they actually did me favor.
I am still getting emails on a regular basis via Fiancee and I am going to give those 50 addresses a shot with Elena.
I am starting to get very excited about a trip over there with AFA. It could be the best adventure of my life and I have had quite a few already.
Steve
you never need a flashlight till the lights go out or a spare key till you lock your keys in the car hey it is your money and you probably have plenty to burn.
iz ,
trust me and trad. if you go to a social in odessa or wherever. you will feel you have been reborn. it is worth every cent. it will be an education that will enlighten you instantly. you will feel maybe a feeling you have not felt in a long time. i did.
jmoluv
jmoluv: I think you might be confusing me with trad. I don't think that trad has ever been to a Romance Tour Social - but I have and I vouch for what you said above.
Very sensible stuff Trad. You only get scammed if you are stuoid enough to fall for it. That is how I got into all this - a scammer. I had the foresight to do a little checking though. I used Elenas Blacklist and BINGO!!! 12 diferent names and the same number of cities.
I have confidence this is going to work out. Just no more western women I have had it. They're not all bad just most of them.
The problem is that many new scammers don't show up un Elenas Blacklist. It doesn't take much to set up a scam persona. And if you DON'T see the "girl" on elena's list a lot of guys falsly think she is legitimate - and send her money.
List or no list - NEVER fall for the old "I'll get a visa and a plane ticket if you will just send me some money" trick.
Its not that simple as "just don't give any money". Scams take all forms and guys who are scammed do more than just send ill advised money.
ASomewhere in the depths of this forum is a story of a fellow member who fell in love with a scammer from a rural section of Ukraine. He didn't send her money directly but he went to see her. When he met her - of course she looked just like the picture in which she was portrayed - but she had no idea who he was and had never written to him. Later the gentelman was informed that another woman had actually written to him, but being shy or not good looking (or something she had used someone else's picture. Some guy volunteered to take out fellow member to see the woman who had written to her at an exhorbinant rate as a taxi driver. He was concerned that he was being set up for robbery...
My point is that scammers do more than just outright request money. And just becasue Elena doesn't list the scammer doesn't mean he/she isn't a scammer.
I went to the AFA office in St.P several times and was impressed by their professionalism. Russians are great at selling. They naturally tried to tempt me into purchasing all their services.. business is business, however, I settled for arranging meetings with girls selected from the catalogues, backed up by interpreters when needed. They were excellent.
What I DID hear from someone who used to work for AFA was that AFA do not treat the girls very well. I did not press her for specifics.
If you have a little time on your hands (and your not actually a wacko into creating different online personalities in this forum) check out this website.
http://datingport.8bit.co.uk/ee.htm
You don't have to depend on Elena's Models, or Anastasia - there are literally thousands of dating sites listed here. If you can't find what you are looking for - you aren't trying very hard.
Sure, there are probably scammers listed here. Take time and be wary. But - wow - look at all your options.
Great stuff Trad.
I have found 2 women one from Fiancee with a child and another from Elena's site. I am talking to both.
The one from Elena's is 40, no kids, seems to have great English and amazingly attractive. She seems to really like me and has made her profile inactive! I think Wess's harping on the ebook must have helped. I was able to use some of the techniques and my own imagination and apparently it was a hit. I'm impressed.
The Fiancee.com one is 36 with a 7 year old girl and is stunningly beautiful. I mean drop dead. You'd never believe she was 36 with a kid.
There is hope :)