I am trying to prove that it is not bad to declare openly that I am looking for better living conditions and that many American men do not afraid of Russian woman who is looking not only for love but also for financially normal life.
I can not give link to cr.......ist because it is against forum rules to give link to free sites.
Oh no fair! We must know... what is your age? Dont make me bribe Fiance.com for your info ~))
Make sure you say you are looking for a better life and love... that without love you will not be interested.... otherwise it sounds like thats all you want. Also many do say this... Something along the lines of "secure... ability to manage family."... stuff like that.
In part I do agreee with Bariga.... It would be very unwise for A girl to look for A broke man... Let me put it in A different light.
Most of us have children... some of us have daughters... I do.
If my daughter were to ask me "Dad, what kind of man should I look for and how should I go about it" First I have semi educated her about how boys really are.... here is what my advice would be.
Look for someone that suits you, you compliment eachother in every way... someone who can be your best friend and someone who gives respect and who you respect. Someone you can love. When your looking... sometimes you have to passover some that might be good candidates, because allthough nice and sweet, they lack any ambition or goals or fiscal capability, avoid those and look for one that has everything that suits you and ambition and goals and the ability to pull theyre weight. "In other words avoid broke , no job having, couch potatoes." dont put yourself in a position to fall in love with someone like that... its called screening... its perfectly ok.
I dont think thats shallow advice... it is realistic... What I am saying is Bariga.. you have A set of things you are looking for, There is nothing wrong with wanting A financially secure man as long as thats not all it takes, It is perfectly ok to want to feel safe and secure and not want to live in A roach motel. Just remember its A red flag if thats ALL you put there.... because if thats all you want here is what the guy will think
"Wanting better conditions only, means that as soon as you get A better offer or idea of how to aqcuire better conditions then he provides... you are gone, because thats all you are there for."
Actually I see no wrong in wanting a better life.. We all do!
Even if we have a pretty good life, we will always try to get something better. It is in our nature. Some of us are fortunate, some are not, but the bottomline is that we all want to be happy, and live a good life.
I have no problem understanding that you want economic safety, anyhow you see it, it is a huge step to move from one country to another. I would also want some kind of safety..
It must be a nightmare to move from some country to meet the love of your life, and then it turns out the person live in a dump somewhere, and don't have money at all.
I am not rich, not poor.. I guess something in the middle is a good description. If I was a woman I also would look for both love and security , not just a castle built with air..
BUT, don't forget... Money and love is two different things..
I would love to read what you posted, but unfortunately I cannot read Russian.. I can talk and understand some of it, but I never learned the letters...
Bagira,
I would never put you in my favorites list even if the list stretched from 18-60 years of age. You want a wallet not a man.
It was a question out of curiosity. That's all.
I am very glad. I think that my openness will push away people like you who afraid a lot ( may be it is paranoia?) that Russia women are looking for a wallet not for a person.
Free,
Good 'ol Bag and I always poke cynic remarks at each other.
Don't take it seriously.
But I do believe Bag is capable of loving a man (as long as his wallet is full). On the other hand, and not unlike the vast majority or western women, ladies like Bag will bail out of a man's life at the first sign of financial misfortune.
Pay close attention to her words and learn from it.
Bagira,
I understand your words as you have posted yourself here. I like your honesty and it seems you are a realist. It is hard to beleive why anyone would leave their country, family, friends and etc unless there was a brighter future somewhere else. Having been to Perm I can also apprreciate the difficulty living on $50 a month. My fiance makes double that, ownes three apartments, so she is able to supplement her income with collected rent and yet she ownes nothing; very little material objects.
I wish you well and I hope you will find someone who understands you and is willing to partner in life with you full of love and hope.
Toad,
“Love” and “till” are two antagonistic word. Do you understand it , Toad? You can block this feeling deep inside your soul but it can not go away from you.
I do not think that you capable to love. I think that you never love woman in your life. Do not miss it with attraction. I know that you had a lot of affairs in your life.
Happy huntings, Bag...:)
Whether you like it or not, your cat is out of your bag already.
(no pun intended)
May you find a thousand happy wallets willing to unfold in service to your needs, wants and desires.
You give honest russian women a bad image, bag... You really do.
Someone said in this forum it's not a good idea to think we're saving a russian woman through a personal relief fund, which is exactly how you seem to want to be treated.
I am most certainly incapable of loving a self serving, needy creature like yourself. I thank mainly the many affairs you refer to for being able to identify a gold digger.
Bagira
I told you so.
If you continue blatantly looking for the pot of gold instead of the man you are going to cause a lot of resentment. This is a tough proposition for the man also. You must put the guy first not the fact that you can improve your standard of living. We men are looking for a woman who is genuinely desiring a good man in her life not a charity case. We get enough of that here in the west.
There is a certain lady I know who would jump at an opportunity to move in with me and enjoy my credit cards, air conditioning and full fridge. She is American and it isn't ever going to happen. This is partially why I dumped my ex wife. My attitude was that if you have 2 of everything that you are supposed to have plus a brain then get out and get a job. We split. I hope you get the point. I would keep quiet and let this all blow over.
Alternatively find some old American guy who needs some personal "attention" and hope he kicks the bucket in enough time for you to enjoy the prize. Hey, it worked for Anna Nichole Smith.
I though you would support me. Unlucky day. But I will not give up :(
I am sure that I will find person who will need me. I saw three really happy US-Russian family. I also will be happy.
I am sure that I will distinguish normal people from those who will remind me all the time that I breathe their conditioned air.
Do people so different that can understand only the wrong way?
Toad I can give you another bone to bark.
For example, only 5 min ago I have spoke with a man and said him that I am strictly against sex before marriage. And had the reply that he had known one wild girl who also in her 29 decided the same. What does he thought about me?
ROFLMAO...!!!!
Is a man interested in you to assume you are a virgin?
Are you able to prove that fact clinically?
Bag, women who make that claim "strictly no sex before marriage" are women who do not enjoy sex that much to begin with.
Nothing wrong with it if you find a man that matches your low or non-existent sex drive, but seriously, be careful about pointing accusatory or demonizing fingers to the rest of the male or female world with a normal and healthy sex drive.
"women who do not enjoy sex that much to begin with"
Not necessarily but they think they can control their desires, and some indeed do. That makes for a very calculating nature which could be interpreted as cold, but if not it at least is a controlled process, infinitely different from a spontaneous urge which is utterly enjoyable because it is natural, driven by instinct.
However, if someone over 40 has this attitude of no sex before marriage he/she has to wake up to smell the roses, because very apparently they lack any real experience or have learned zilch from their lived years. But good luck, it's too late if you ask me.
I have yet to meet anyone who can distinguish clearly between love and sex between a couple that really is fond of each other. And to get 'really' fond sex is required, and trust me there's no difference between males and females here. No sex before marriage is a classic dud, but you want another one like that?
"Men give love for sex, and women give sex for love".
If someone thinks this negotiating process involves a table they're miles off, it involved a bed.