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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > How long before proposing and should you...?!?! Author Post GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/31/2004 1:00:33 PM   My dear Pitchka babe, TD and everyone else are all correct, or at least partially so.. Today american women more than ever before want to see their men on their knees when they propose as a tributory sign of submission and acceptance of how it's going to be if they ever want to get anything from them throughout their married life...or at least until the moment she decides enough is enough and divorces him to take the house, the kids, 60-80% of his income and assets, his pension, his heart, his dreams and anything else worth selling for cash or destroying for simple malicious spite. I must, however, correct TD on one count. It is not longer possible to carry most american brides through the threshold due to their obessity or the 40% excess weight they carry BEFORE marriage. I just came back from hawaii so my fly is no longer open, TD...:) I have never seen so many overweight brides at one place....(Except at the Tropicana hotel wedding chapel in Las Vegas) toad Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/31/2004 1:47:47 PM   Whooa Toad whoa, hold yer horses a minute - I didn't know obesity was limited to females only in the US? What I know of it (source: Reuter's etc) is that this phenomena is across the board, including kids even. The processing of foods, combined with a high fat & sugar intake, is apparently to blame for this. Now then, Grooms surely are affected by this also, and to a limited degree one gets a bit more muscle also when getting obese, if only to carry all that excess - surely enough to hoist their prey over the threshold? ;-)) And excuse me if wrong Bwana, but the name 'Toad' hardly recalls images of a slim creature. What's your stage-name - Fats Domino or Slim Shady ? jmoluv Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/31/2004 2:58:10 PM   gentlemen, Dont you realize by now that it does not matter how fat bald and ugly you are? We are entitled to the most beautiful, young and slender ladies that can be offered, you must keep your priorities straight!!!!!!!!!! LOL tell em shag !! jmoluv Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/31/2004 3:07:05 PM   T.D. It is no secret that obesity is in epidemic proportions in America. You dont need statistics to prove it. Just take a walk in anytown, USA. After several trips through different countries in europe , i was inspired to drop 20 pounds. We are the victims of the land of too many conveniences and not knowing what it means to want We for the most make bad food choices and will drive our cars 100 yards instead of walking. It is much easier for people to grab fast food than to prepare something smart and healthy. Everyone acts like they are in a big hurry to go nowhere. Hence, unhealthy lifestyle produces big lazy people , men, women and children. GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/1/2005 6:11:11 PM   "...The processing of foods, combined with a high fat & sugar intake, is apparently to blame for this..." NO, TD...if these fatsos would only take the damn fork out of their mounts and their asses off the couch, things would be different. Let the food processing industry dish out whatever fattening goodies they want. I took the time and effort to learn what healthy foods to feed my children and my body....anyone else can do the same. It's the same as smoking, excessive drinking or just about any other ways we abuse our bodies...until we accept and recognize there is a detrimental health element, no changes take place. One of my neighbors had a mild heart attack last month. He's 42, 5'8", 320 lbs, smokes 1.5 packs a day, never exercises, never even walks despite living 5 minutes to some of the most beautiful shores in California. His wife is 36, 5'4, 200 lbs...was 250 until recently. The diabetis put her in a coma 6 months ago. All 3 of their kids are obese teenagers, 12-15-16. None of the kids were ever encouraged to play or participate in sports, only video games and TV. A few weeks ago the youngest one came over to my house to ask me if I would let him walk my dog (3 yr old, 110 lb choc. lab) for free every day.."I need a good reason to start exercising so I don't end up like the rest of my family". There is hope for him. None for the others. "Large and in charge" is the slogan the new America woman has embraced. Women who are slim in America these days are being mocked as 'waifers' 'Olive Oils' 'skinny bitches' and such. FSU women, Do not thing for a minute that I am exaggerating about this topic. It is a very real aspect of daily life that you will need to learn to deal with during your transition into western life with your man. Western women will resent you for being a foreign bride, but more for being a healthy, slim and attractive woman who keeps her body in shape and desirable for her husband. toad GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/1/2005 6:11:41 PM   mouths, not mounts wtrav02 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/1/2005 9:06:29 PM   "We are entitled to the most beautiful, young and slender ladies that can be offered" and then you people are bashing QuietCharm for being elusive. After she damps his ugly face, fat ass, he's going back to the forum to complain about all these FSU frauds who took his assets and left him in the trash can. wtrav02 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/1/2005 9:15:13 PM   Obese are both men and women in this country. The rate runs higher on women, but not by that much. In Europe, it is unacceptable for a young woman or a man to be fat just like smoking is here. In America being obese is part of the constitution, it's the right to one's body. It's cultural, Americans simply don't give a shit about how they look (I say "they" because I don't include myself in the category), and it's when diabetes hits them on the head when they may cut on the burgers and the sugar. Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/2/2005 5:31:15 AM   "Large and in charge" I'm perplexed - not even you could have made this up Toad, and, no offence at all, it sounds typical for your nation. I'm sure you know about the stereo-typical attitude 'bigger & better in the US' and this fits sooooooo well.... my condolances. I have no idea what you spend on your healthcare budget however I guess it comes second(?) after defence. In any case, the amount spent will increase if there are national health problems, and I would consider obesity one. Surely the government will have to step in sooner or later, if only to reduce this burden on the budget? I guess the Physical Training hours in schools are mandatory and could be stepped up, and combine them with advice from an independant pediatrician connected to the school. According to set norms (which already must exist) obesity is easily recognized, and the parents must be involved to be part of the correcting mechanism. I guess motivation of the latter especially could be achieved by a national campaign, kingpin of which must be a cooperating media. No idea if such can be legally enforced in the US, something which IS possible in other countries. I suppose it also depends on national priorities, and your current situation combined wich the high indebtness will limit funding. On this point, do you guys notice anything yourselves as a result of the devaluating dollar (yet)? jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/2/2005 8:25:26 AM   Fat young women (under the age od say... 25) were so rare in Odessa, Ukraine that members of my tour group actually started to point them out to each other when we were on (private) busses. I know it sounds crass and terrible now - but it was a phenomenon that none of us were familiar with. Someone would say "There's a heavy one!" and all the heads would turn to look at the single sole fat girl walking down the street. I didn't actually point it out. But I must admit I did turn my head and look. And the entire thing happened all of twice while on the trip. Overweight women were that rare. wtrav02 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/2/2005 8:38:24 AM   TD, the media talk about the obesity epidemic, now 1 out of 5 kids less than 5 years of age are obese (which is defined as something like 30% overweight). They say these kids are prime candidates for diabetes and heart attacks early in their life. 1 out of 3 teenagers are also considered obese. They say obesity is going to kill many more than smoking did. If bin laden knew the US better, he would not try to hit financial institutions, he would rather invest in the mc donald’s franchise (no relation to the franchise term introduced in another thread previously) to buy a store at every corner. The current administration does not give a shit about people, they're only compassionate when it comes to their own kids. They would donate the tsunami victims 15 million before the whole world booed them, which was an amount less than half what they would spend for the celebrations during the inauguration of the new president. In Europe, rarely you see a woman of very rich proportions exposing her cellulite and folded abdominal fat in public. In this country, it is their right to wear clothes that expose their belly and thighs even when the sight of these brings disgust to other people. They respect their own rights (as an individualistic society) but don't respect the viewers (the other people who happen to be around). They sue schools which "discriminate" fat girls from the "opportunity" to become cheerleaders. Do they ask the spectators whether they're interested to see the fat asses and overblown stomachs shaking and moving up and down? Regarding the devaluating dollar, this administration tries to copy the Reagan administration, which cut taxes, spend the most money in history in military expenditures (to outspend the soviets), recorded record deficits, and saw the dollar sink in the abyss. The difference is that Reagan did not put himself in an endless series of actual wars like this president is heading to. After the soviet union collapsed, Clinton came in and put discipline in military spending and brought deficits under control. I'm not quite sure miracles can happen twice. wtrav02 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/2/2005 8:46:41 AM   FSU and other European women I should say are extremely conscious about their body shape. In this country, it is considered weakness to be weight conscious. Hey Americans are the most confident nation, hell we can do anything and if we can't we can buy it. I heard people saying, "haaaa soon they'll invent a pill, we'll take it once a day and we'll lose the pounds". Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/2/2005 10:13:42 AM   Wtrav, Those pills in fact exist already. Years ago a female friend of mine ordered some slimming thing and received it just before leaving for holiday. Left the parcel, went on holiday, and on her return opened it and found a 'hatched' pill - a worm (dunno the name: long & flat. Lintworm?). The instructions were very specific in taking it whole, immediately upon arrival as it contained 'perishable organic ingredients'. Sure it did, but it cured her forever from ordering this kind of rubbish. Needless to say she's still chubby. Folded abdominal fat? My dawg you're gross, just add varicose vains. You're right in saying that publicly exposed skin-over-fat is hardly seen in (the whole of) Europe. It is a display of distaste as well as low class often commented on, and I suppose the latter aids in keeping these occasions rarish. However, also the infinitely more attractive competition simply attracts lots more attention. When confronted with an abundance of all this, like in summer in Eastern Europe, I actually find myself suprised sometimes why that is the only place I have ever seen this. Like Jet says the chubby one's are not nearly as common as anywhere else and I agree, but keep in mind that my local situation is - by the sounds of it - quite different than the US one, thank heavens. Apart from the different food and activity levels I'm sure the genes must play a role also, and only for this reason I don't mind them spreading across the globe. In contradiction to this, traditional Russian food is hardly low in calories, fatty even. In winter one burns it off I suppose, but I have had foods there during summer I'd classify as winterfood. Rich & creamy, I admit delicious also, but a nice salad may have been more appropriate. So you guys know about your record deficits? Not to be taken lightly, some sword of Damocles lurking out there. Because of your national demands as well as your global influence this needs urgent attention in my opinion, especially so when now competing with the joined European forces. Add the developing East and conclude with me that someone should throw a torch in the Bush. wtrav02 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/2/2005 10:44:14 AM   Hey TD, nice nice! About the cals, French food which absolutely delights me is very highly caloric, but the French don't eat boatloads of it. People in this country are scratching their heads to find why the hell the French don't get fat with all these dishes they eat. Well, a complete meal in France consists of more dishes of small quantities unlike american meals served in big, supersized platters with all kinds side dishes. Food in America is about size and quantity hence the concept of "supersize it!". It is like this country aims to build the BIGGEST people on earth. Everything is big, meals, cars, roads, ego, arrogance, stupidity. Regarding the deficits, they have not yet caused pain. 2 parts arrogance, 3 parts stupidity, and you make the perfect American coctail. People here don't even pay attention to this stuff, they figure, we're the greatest nation on earth by a magnitude of 250 light years, so we'll figure something. It is also due to the willingness of the Europeans, the Chinese and the Japanese to continue to finance the US deficits. So far it was as simple as printing a few more billion dollars to cover the unexpected needs for funding, no big deal. The rest of the world needs to focus to develop their own markets and not rely on the USA to absorb their production capacity in exchange for printed government guaranteed paper. In the long run, Americans are simply selling out our country to the rest of the world. Characters like Bush and his company don't care about this, money does not have a counrty, they'll sell America and they'll move their assets to the next big growth market, China, India who knows. Fools in this country believe that Bush and his company are patriots, country for them is wherever their money gets the best treatment. America is still a super power, and they're using it. TD, some of us did tried hard to "throw a torch in the Bush", but it takes more of us. Have you seen the sign that was displayed recently: "Sorry world, we tried". spirittraveller Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/2/2005 11:43:39 AM   Hi. I am commenting on the fat thread. I am in Phoenix,but my hometown is Missoula,Montana. Both places are overabundant in the eateries. Wherever you look there is a place to eat. It makes me wonder how so many places could prosper. When I was a kid living in Washington state in the 60s,we never ate McDonalds or fast food. This was a rare and celebrated moment,and would be done maybe once a year. Even the opening of a new McDonalds was something special-with Ronald himself making appearances.Now there is an incredible number of fast food eateries to choose from,making the sacred act of nourishing ones self seem deferential. We ate at a table each night-now food is taken on the fly. The preparation of food was a chore too,not the take out from the KFC. People take food for granted,which also is witnessed in the amount of food garbage this country creates. The bread alone which is thrown out could feed so many people. I feel the need to give prayer and thanks after I eat,because often I go until I am very hungry,which is probably how it should be. And it`s not just fat men,women,and children--but pets too. This nation has changed. We ran and played,and criss-crossed the cities on foot as kids. Now it is X-box. When I read about how much women have changed-I think about how much men have changed too. Instead of healthy male outlets like fishing, hiking,playing ball with the kids--men watch football,play X-box,and watch fishing on TV,while drinking beer and eating fatty foods. Even to watch the wimpy weak men on TV disgusts me. Where do kids find strong male role models? It is not on Will and Grace. The American lifestyle has changed. We are mostly a country of consumers,which is why there is so much exportation of work to other countries.Even a cowboy or stockman is Mexican now,due to the reluctance of many men for hard labor. Everything must be cheap,easy,and readily available. And this gets passed down to kids,who do not stop eating when their bellies are already full. Don`t be a slave to the fork,fatty!!! People from other countries eat smaller portions,and take a little more time with it. Like my granny said,"Eat to live,not live to eat!" jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/2/2005 12:51:00 PM   I'm from Wisconsin (as noted in several pas threads). We are the dairy state - only surpassed by California as a producer of cheese. But I bet we eat a much greater percentage especialy per person than California does. We eat a lot of bratwurst and beer and even though we don't make any of it we are (I think) number ONE in brandy consumption per person. In the einter we DON'T work-it-off by shoveling everything in sight either. We sit-indoors and...eat more cheese, bratwurst and beer, ending with a nice brandy chaser. Now knowing all of that (and add in the fact that many consider a nice abdominal spare-tire to be a healthy insulator from the cold) do you suppose that Wiscosnin farmer's daughters are svelte young nubile sinewy sexy things that any "traveling salesman" would want to spend the night with? Here, when traveling-salesmen experience automobile breakdown in rural areas where the only spot to rest might be the bedroon of some innocent farmer's daughter - they run doe the hills, or at least to Illinois, never to be heard from again. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/2/2005 12:58:09 PM   At any Walmart in Wisconsin you will find the clearance rack to be filled exclusively with items marked SMALL and some MEDIUMS (the rest being purchased by out-of-staters). You see, Wallmart has a standard mis for variety of sizes. So many LARGEs, so many EX-LARGES, so many XXLARGEs and so many XXXLARGEs. Here in Wisconsin all that is left at the end of any season are the SMALLs. In fact no Walmart at any time has ever sold a single SMALL item of anything. Its a little known fact. When they don't see as Clearance items either - they bundle them together and sell them as handkerchiefs. shaggy47435 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/2/2005 2:01:21 PM   wtrav sorry is right. You need help to move to Canada I will buy your ticket. You guys have been so bored. And my god you guys have just solved the weight problem in America. Get real. It is metal illness that contributes to most of the weight trouble in America and the lack of real education of healthy eating and stress management. Yes we are mostly to blame ourselves for believing the adds and those that would make us think if we don't look like Barbie and Ken dolls something is wrong with us. Its is exactly as toad said only in a dim way. It is called addiction. I fought wieght problems all my life and reciently in the last year I have lost over 100 lbs. It was not that I was lazy as I work twice as hard as the average joe in this country and with an extra 150 lbs on my back while I did it. I am a single father of 3 children and even as fat as I was never sit on the couch and let their needs go. I nor do many others eat to stuff themselves or lack the will power to walk away. It has been proven and even legislated that it is a medical condition and now that it is treated as such it will get the medical treatment it has been denied in the past. Preventative actions can now prevent the other long term cost and maybe you can begin to understand that they are human beings and not of any less class than any of you. To be frank many of your comments make me sick and from such bleading heart anti american liberals it makes me sicker. Over 65% of Americans are overweight. Many can be helped if treated with a little respect and for their addictions. You guys need to rethink your positions in life and remember how easy it is to point and laugh as someone that you may need someday. I just hope they remember and laugh back at you. I hope you all find help and healing. shaggy47435 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/2/2005 2:08:39 PM   wtrav you are so full of shit you stink. Please give some kind of proof of your statements. We have given over 350 million dollars and that does not count private donations. It had nothing to do with any booing anywhere. I will admit how tacky it is to try to use a natural disaster to push your political points but again you absolutly no idea of what you are talking about and you are uninformed to make any credible statements regarding aid to other countries. We have been the number one aid giver every year for the last 50 years and in this event as well. Please at least stick to things that you can back up. shaggy47435 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/2/2005 2:10:49 PM   I also see your great compassion for your fellow men well at least as long as they are not fat right? What have you done for the people suffering from the tsunamis. How much did you give. Oh thats right the goverment should take care of it after all you are too busy with your pleasure trips to score hookers. Stop and think about what life is and then try to decide if you can come up with answers to any of your problems. Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > How long before proposing and should you...?!?!
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