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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Younger Russian and Ukrainian women Author Post GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/11/2005 6:31:37 PM   Seriously now, (or as seriously as someone like me can get..:) We can poke fun, tease and joke about any man's age difference with his woman....but the irrefutable truth is none of us is walking in his or his woman's shoes, therefore we do not KNOW what makes their little hearts ticks at the same beat or their pant(ies) wiggle....we can only SPECULATE, predict with a large degree of uncertainty or give our most educated guesses. But we do NOT KNOW. So let's not get all tied up in knots of wonder, suspicion or negativity when we see these wide age gaps between east/west couples. Let's leave the negative comments to the western women who btw, are already feeling the pinch at the lack of elegible, attractive, willing, available men for them tramp on. I was at a dinner party this last weekend among a group of 22 guests. The host is a close friend, happiliy married to a gorgeous (of course) Russian woman from Vladivostok. Milena is a 35 year old pediatrician who speaks six languages fluently, has co-authored two medical books and plays the piano like an angel, is a former ice skate olympic hopeful for Russia and has a body hard enough to bounce dollar coins...many at a time. Her husband of 5 years, my friend, is a 53 years old doctor who needless to say, is happy as a clam can be with his marital situation. Two of the guests were female colleagues working at the same hospital he does; in their mid/late forties, divorced (of course) and with bodies that displayed expiration dates and irriversible levels of decay, fat, saginess and 'cottage cheese'. These american born women obviously had a malicious agenda of gigantic proportions because whenever I took a general look of the crowd, I saw them cornering Lena with mean, snide and poorly desguised comments about her marriage, her husband, her intentions, her background, her child, her future, etc etc etc.... "Dear, do you have a lawyer in case he decides to trade you up for a newer model?" "Did you learn to play the piano at the same place you stripped to pay for the language lessons?" "You know, love, american women will never forgive you for stealing on of our most eligible bachelors" "Do your kid's schoolmates tease her because her mommy is a 'bought foreign bride'? "Would you like us to 'spy' on him for you to make sure he does not cross the line with the nurses at the hospital?" "At his age and with a woman like you, he must have built a separate closet to store all the viagra he surely needs to keep up with you" And on and on and on..... By the time dessert was served, Milena's stoicism had started to crack and looked like she was on the brink of tears....so I did what I do oh so well and stuck my nose into the frey with my not so humble comments and told her loudly enough so the two gringa wenches could hear me with no doubt whatsoever:.."Milena, NOW you know why he traveled across the ocean to find you...if you had never met, him do you think a man like him deserves to be married to women like that (pointing to them)? Toad wtrav02 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/11/2005 7:19:28 PM   toad, That's very funny really. Out of curiosity, is the above like we see in the movies "based on a true story" or is it a true story? I can't believe the direct comments were really so bad like the one about the stripper money or there was a little editing to make the story entertaining not only educational? In any event, point well taken and script well crafted. GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/11/2005 9:15:35 PM   wtrav, Unfortunately, the story is real. The dinner was planned to entertain and brake the ice for the new hospital administrator, so my friend was off schmoozing and boozing the boss and like so many times before, Milena was doing her best to be the most gracious of hostesses with the mostess with the 'lesser' guests. Moi included. The part of the dialogue covering the stripping came like this: Bitch #1: "How did you manage to make time and pay the lessons to learn all those languages and play the piano..?" bitch #2: "She probably earned the money stripping at a 'gentleman's club" These women, I learnt later, are also higher level hospital administrators. One of them is my friend's direct department boss. The poor guy got an earful from them the next working day about how rude one of his guests was to them both....(hehehehehehe) I don't know how much interaction you have or had with career american women, but I assure you there is an undercurrent of awareness among them about how serious regular, common, working american men are becoming about rejecting them in favor of foreign women...and not just from FSU. Latin America and Asia get just as much attention. toad freebird1967 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/12/2005 11:23:34 AM   40 years... however you try and paint it.. is selfish, You can paint any way you want it is still too much.. YOUR GOING TO DIE 20 or 30 years before her... how the hell is that ok? Like I said there are some absolutey gorgeous 30+ FSU women... according to some of you they need to date 70+ year olds. Yes we had A whole forum covering what bitches american women are.... Thats why were all here ~)) I am not making negative comments about American men or FSU ladies I am simply stating that A 40 year difference between mates is simply not reasonable or fair. GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/12/2005 12:57:55 PM   Free, There is no need to get so judgemental on someone else's choices or preferences. After all, the older the wolf gets, the more tender the flesh he needs to chew on. And what in the world qualifies YOU to preach to anyone here what REASONABLE is or should be? Get off MY high horse, damn it. I never gave you permission to ride it...:)) "..I am not making negative comments about American men or FSU ladies. I am simply stating that a 40 year difference between mates is simply not reasonable or fair..." In matters of the heart, 'reason' is often thrown out the window. Let them be and wish them well and lots of luck...even though conventional wisdom may say they'll probably need it. And 'not fair' to whom? To the other FSU women in their 40s, who also deserve a chance to have a western man marry them? To you, who may be competing for the same age group women he is going after? To himself, to protect him from being used for financial gain and betrayal a few years into the marriage or relationship? Let them be...and wish them well toadi freebird1967 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/12/2005 8:31:09 PM   This isnt A Robert Hienlen Novel...... freebird1967 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/12/2005 8:32:03 PM   Well if you keep writing it might be -/ wtrav02 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/12/2005 8:48:09 PM   freebird, in a free, capitalistic society, people are free to choose whatever they want and on the other hand are responsible for the outcome of their decisions. I am down positive that a 20-year old who is after a 60-year old is only after his money. Possible exceptions P. McCartney, A. Queen, D. Trump etc. are only confirming the rule and by the way these people are global personalities AND loaded. So, the average Joe 60-year old who lets himself believe the 20-year old is craving his fat neck, body liquids and noises during the night is only looking for trouble. Of course unless the 60-year old thinks like "I want to die in an instant while fucking a gorgeous woman one third my age and be the poorest man on earth because I have spent the last penny of my money on pleasuring her and me". freebird1967 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/13/2005 1:51:52 PM   Haha... Well basically thats what I was saying (among other things).... only my delivery wasnt so.... harsh. On the other hand... some folks sound like A young girl is basically an object or status symbol........ Not everyone has the same emotional depth, to each theyre own. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/13/2005 6:46:58 PM   I'm with toad on this one. And partly with trad. Reasonable or fair!?!? What the HELL is he talking about? Tow people make the decsion on what is reasonable and fair. The two involved. Nny one else's opinion counts for diddly-squat. Suppose she IS after his money - suppose he DOES losing it all to be doing a woman a third his age? SO WHAT?? Would you rather he spend his last years tying to figure out a way to take it with him? News flash - HE CAN"T. Money is something we aquire in this life to get STUFF in this life. If you believe in an afterlife - cash is not transferable. and if you don't believe in one - cash does you no good when you are worm food. Perhaps you feel some obligation to leave a bunch of money to heirs - in he hope that they will cry a little harder (more likely - they will be slightly more joyful) at your funeral. However you decide to disperse it to the living - be it an heir or a sweet young thing who provides comfort (if you know what I mean) its's YOUR choice. And who are we to condemn the motivation of others? jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/13/2005 6:49:45 PM   Note to self - read over posts AT LEASTS ONCE before hitting SEND REPLY button. No mre than 12 extra letters and transposed letters per sentence please. Will work my way down from there. GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/13/2005 8:52:05 PM   If he wants to spend his last dime on the 26 yr old vagina, I'm not going to chastise him....he's grown enough to do as he pleases with it. I doubt however, that's what any man truly intends to do in his position. I said it before and I say it again, the following two little snipets of toadish western wisdom prove to be true in most man/woman relationships, regardless of age, nationality or geographical desirabilty: 1. Most men date, get involved with and marry the most attractive woman we can afford (other factors are secondary) 2. Most women date, get involved with and marry the most affluent man then can attract (other factors are secondary. toad wtrav02 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/13/2005 9:48:12 PM   jet, what is the anger for? I made no judgements. In fact, I said people are free to choose whatever they want. Never said money should be taken in one's grave like the in the era of the pharaos. On one hand, it is true we can't say what is reasonable and fair for others. On the other hand, a topic was posted in order to receive attention. The question from the memeber was "am I being used?". Therefore, addressing the topic; come on what is she after? what are the odds? I take a wild guess, she's after the green and the green card. And, what is he after? a healthy long-lasting marriage with many kids to see them grow up and marry and have their own kids? I take another wild guess and say he's after a last (maybe or maybe not lasting) wild ride. Every party have their own agenda. NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT in my opinion. If they both know what they're going after, then good for them. Try to think for a moment like a twenty year old in a country that has absolutely no future and you are at the very bottom of the food chain in that country, you have no money and none to help you, if you die tomorrow, none will know or bother, in addition you're a female, which guarantees you no opportunities, nothing to hope for other than giving your body to unknowns for a little money to buy food. If you're a suicidal person, you decide to do nothing and accept the situation. If you have a little life inside, you shape your own destiny, you marry not a 60-year old, but an 80 and 90 year old to get the hell out of there. You promise the old man you'd do anything. What do you have to lose really? think about it. And the 60-year old, it's his own business, I know, but we're discussing now ... wouldn't he offer the world a big gift if he decided to adopt that girl than marry her? wtrav02 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/13/2005 9:53:53 PM   toad, I completely disagree, first of all many times the exact opposite happens (swap the words "man" and "woman" above). Second, you assume everything can be bought for a price, but your forget that the buyer has to want to buy and the seller has to want to sell, and there are things that cannot be bought or sold at any price or if the transaction occurs, the outcome is a bunch of crap. spirittraveller Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/13/2005 11:45:39 PM   when you get butterflies in your stomach , your heart quickens,and you know that you would give everything in life for a short 20 year moment with her~ ain`t love grand? And ain`t life grand too! When did it ever matter the price for a glimpse ( even if that is all it is) into heaven? And if you are lucky, she is not a gold-digging aristocrat, and the love is mutual,who cares if you live in a castle or a cave? Friggin dreamy it is Annika77 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/14/2005 3:58:43 AM   About "no future". Young people must make future better, at least here in Baltics people think so. And every country have future even Moldova. If people dont want to work for prosperity of their country and are afraid of changes...of course life dont go better and 60 years old is only chance. People in lots of FSU countries are just lazy and hoping somebody comes and makes life better. nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/14/2005 6:07:37 AM   Annika Trust me my dear that phenomenon is not only in the FSU countries. Many women in the states have made that a career! Annika77 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/14/2005 7:19:37 AM   Im confused! American society is really hard to undrstood! Im read several posts here from people who moan about career wumen and lack of traditional values. Now its bad if woman dont work and find somebody to support her! Help! tradman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/14/2005 8:22:53 AM   Everyone is free to choose the age of their partner, I do not say he shouldn't do it, only that the odds are so far against it succeeding. Now, if we could have a fixed, 2 year term of a marriage, even I would be up for it:-)) tradman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/14/2005 8:23:15 AM   Everyone is free to choose the age of their partner, I do not say he shouldn't do it, only that the odds are so far against it succeeding. Now, if we could have a fixed, 2 year term of a marriage, even I would be up for it:-)) Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Younger Russian and Ukrainian women
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