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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > The 400 Author Post unclebuck Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/9/2005 1:24:48 PM   Annika, Please stay with us. You are a great source of information and you spark up the fires of coversation. We may disagree with your ideas and laugh at our own but you really are a catilist in the mix. izifaddag Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/9/2005 1:32:12 PM   "After I started to read that site I dont need soap operas any more...So many broken hearts...So many middle aged men living in fantasy world, russian Cinderellas who turn to evil stepmothers:)...Real change if you live in the country where people are rational and cold :):):)" It is because of posts like these that you are insulted. You ask for it, you deserve it and if you keep making these rude comments you will continue to get them. So put up or shut up. You picked on the wrong Englishman today Ms. Wise-Ass. GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/9/2005 1:38:56 PM   Hhhuummmmmmmmm... The seemingly cold, calculating and overly vicious tone of Annika's early post does not hit me the same way it does you, Izi...I think any new yorker that doesn't know you or gives a rat's us about you would say things along those lines..or worse, actually. Beat me, burn me, fuck me hard and make me write bad checks if some TV screen writers are not already studying our posts to design the next generation of super east-west sappy, long lasting soap operas and reality shows to be aired on both sides of the globe. And my friend, by virtue of the open and courageous way in which you make yourself vulnerable in front of this often brutal audience, I trule believe your Marina story will get top priority...;)) QC, Tune in for Dr. Phil's show next time you need a good psychogical puking session or feel a sudden masochistic urge to repent for having been born with male genitalia...:)) toad Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/9/2005 1:39:37 PM   "Annika, You have not grasped the situation" Come on now Izi, you don't discover that only now do you? ;-) Bipolar indeed does mean what WT says, slang for a bisexual female. A gay is often called a double adaptor in the same jargon. But I gather, from the use & reactions here, that this is different in the US. Be clearer Toad - is it schizophrenic? This word is the same in English and American, and the use of it lots clearer. If so: Izi, you took some months and a relatively short visit to find this out, and you sort-of blame yourself if I read well here. Don't, I took 8 years, on & off periods admittedly, but still 8 years. During this period I managed to get the full puzzle piece by piece, and it made no sense whatsoever. Until I got the last piece, a detail merely, and suddenly I got the whole cristal clear picture - and didn't like it, in fact I destested it. Shit happens Mate, so get moving to greener pastures. And leave Anna alone, this wuman is not worth your attention, you're way to 'cool' for her. And let's be honest here - you know already that 1 + 1 does not necessarily means 2, and that calculating wonder still has to find that out :)) But eh, don't abort an entire nation by a single abortion... GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/9/2005 1:54:27 PM   TD, Yes, bipolarity is a direclty related to schizoprenic symptoms or extreme emotions and sensations. The house practicing shrinks could give us a clear definition of the proper clinical terms, treatment, characteristics but BIPOLAR does not mean BISEXUAL in the US. Bisexual may be bipolar or viceversa, but thei\y are not one and the same. toad izifaddag Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/9/2005 2:06:33 PM   Toad I have told this story for the purpose of letting others see what can happen. Not to garner sympathy or amuse others. This thread was started in all seriousness. Not to receive brickbats or criticism. The opposite was the intention. To bring in different ideas about the approach of finding a lady from FSU. People were curious about my situation and I let my guard down. There is no soap opera value here. No comedy, no reason for any input except positive. I stand by all I have said. My story is instructional, as is my present attitude, and so is Annika's post. They all highlight the reality of this situation. On the one hand we have someone who spent 7 months of his life, countless emails and phone calls not to mention a visit at great expense to find what? A nut. It proves that there is no defense. You try to play by the rules and what happens? You make mistakes and get screwed. For what reason? To learn that is why. It is not important that it was me on the sharp end it could have been anybody. In most ways I am not that important in this story. Then on the other hand we have someone like Annika so rightly illustrating what kind of cat is in that bag. Her comment as others in the past is subtly contemptuous. It is personally revealing. Again not just of herself but of the whole process and FSU women, regardless of where he personally lives. This is largely luck and all you can do is harden your self into a machine to go through this "numbers game". It may seem I am angry here. I am sorry to have given that impression because actually I am not. I want others to see that this isn't what it seems. I thank God for people like Annika and on ocasion Bagira also because they reveal the truth. Much better than any months long email campaign can do. It says I have contempt for you westerners. Rotate around us. Do it our way. You amuse me. You are like comical children. Let us not try to put any other face on this please. I have eyes in my head and I can read quite clearly. Her command sems to be adequate to the job. Unfortunately it reveals the truth also. Later guys. I do mean guys. QuietCharm Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/9/2005 2:12:32 PM   'Tearing and ripping is out of place in this thread.' Did I say that? (wistfully)... Seems so long ago now. ;-))) Cheer up Izi. I'm following in Toad's friends footsteps and am off to Thailand. Have been nagged for some time, by an envious pal bent on sabotaging my irresponsible, commitment-avoiding lifestyle, to go to Asia and take control of his business interests there. Have agreed. Bang goes the Ukraine/Moldova trip.. pity. Was looking forward to it. Anyone want to buy a van? ;-) GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/9/2005 2:21:26 PM   Izi, Not one single person in this forum would tell the Izi-Marina story story the same way and from the same perspective even if we had all been there every minute of every day of the last 7 months watching it develop from a hidden camera covering both your typing fingers in Florida and Ekaterinburg. We'd agree on some things and we'd report some others completely differently...we'd even reach much different conclusions, perhaps. As Annika has done simply by reading it. We're all afftected by a complete different set of value scales that makes us see things differently. That's all. Take a deep breath. And do not hold it too long...;) toad QuietCharm Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/9/2005 2:33:42 PM   Annika put several smiley faces in the post that upset you. I think, too, she can't quite carry off the sometimes needed subtlety with her language limitations to do 'gently teasing'. Mind you, nor can I. ;-) She certainly didn't mean it personally, that I could see. Kind of a laugh at our male vanities. If I had recently been burned and my feelings were very much on the surface, as yours are, I would tend to (and have in the past) react aggressively rather than laugh at myself. Now where did I put that ticket to Bangkok? ---> ;-)))) QC Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/9/2005 2:47:29 PM   QC, no, no van, however if you're going to tell me it's a Vito parked somewhere close to Almeria I just might.... nah, kidding. Besides, I couldn't stand walking on a layer of used rubbers :) Seriously though, Thailand should be nice enough to relocate to. Business interests is a bit vague though, surely you're not going to operate a fish & chips outlet there? As far as I remember you were sort-of retired hence your relocation to sunnier sides, and now this move to even brighter beaches makes me, can't help it, curious. Care to share? Izi, you mention something 'newbies' should try to understand, you used the wording "It is personally revealing". A correspondence can be indeed, also a series of short posts here. Not the words itself, not single lines, but the whole is, simply because of the 'interpretor', the human reader. I'm sure some are better than others, but in general I'd say one gets a 'feeling' about the other, and although this might not be perfectly accurate it tells a lot, a whole lot in fact. For someone who has never has entered into some correspondence this may be hard to understand, but those who have know it is true. Dale E Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/9/2005 3:22:02 PM   Gee Izi, When I first saw this topic, I thought Nasfan Mike had a woody about some upcoming car race. I didn't expect it to be you (especially) starting on a mass mailing campaign. That style in my opinion is left for the people who can wait a long time to sort out the rejects. I know that you are willing to give this another try very soon. I admire the fact tyhat you are willing to come forth and ask for advice from everyone. So if Annika says something you don't like, don't berate her because you're the one asking. I personally enjoy her comments and think that she is trying to put it in our thick skulls that these Russian women are just women when you get down to the nitty-gritty. They are not some mythical beauties who shit doesn't stink. She has never come out and said "Run now, Do not do this!" But she has tried to warn us on what can happen. Basically, keep your eyes open! izifaddag Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/9/2005 6:38:51 PM   Dale, Toad, QC and especially TD Thank you and point well taken. You all make very valid statements. Annika in herself is not the problem she is a mirror. She reveals the truth about what these women are really all about. Financial improvement. There is nothing wrong with that it is sensible and laudible especially if they have young ones. It is the nnsense that goes with it and in many cases a certain contemopt that is beautifully masked. It is uncalled for because I have no contempt for them and never have. I never thought I was better than them. The fact that they think that Russia is a better country I have a problem with. It isn't, it is one of the suckiest places I have been. Not as bad as Morrocco but nowhere as good as Guatemala or Malaysia. I congratulated Annika on revealing the truth. We are considered to be numbnuts. As she seems to think herself about us. Frankly I think she is right. There is a tendency to ignore the truth for a shapely pair of legs. Her comments reflect what the truth really is. I am sorry the smily faces don't mean a thing. Ever hear that comedian I forget his name. He says to his wife "You are a bitch - but I mean that in a good way" :))You see what I mean? All I said was that you were an asshole but a really nice one. It is called a lefthanded insult. She does not insult me she doesn't insult at all. She merely reveals the truth. We are contemptable. Losers. Right? No, wrong. Men that do this are without a doubt the most ambitious of men. They have guts and stick-to-it-ness coming out of their ears. They get stuck in and lay it all on the line. It is good to know what the opposition thinks. She does us a service. Thanks Annika. I for one appreciate the heads up. nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/9/2005 8:56:44 PM   Well well My dear Annika you are from the Baltics, now that explains a lot to me! First of all email me your address I will save it and five years mail that card and Picture. I will never refer to Larissa as my Larissa, she is a person of her own merit and has no owner. Least of all me. As for going into this blinded by my western Ignorance, you are missing that one by a long shot. That is why I was very patient and didn't fall for the first woman that flashed her pretty eyes at me. Also if this fails for me, their will be no comeback trail for the Nasfan.Using some american colliliquisms, I've stepped up to the plate, I've rolled the dice,I've put it all on the line, I've dropped the hammer, now lets see what plays out. There is an exception to every rule, Maybe Larissa is that exception, time will tell, but from everything we have shared in the last year together I am more than willing to attempt to make a life with this Ukrainian Angel. Plus my Thin skinned Baltic Princess, if your going to swim with the sharks be prepared to lose a chunk of your ass once in a while! Us being the sharks. So don't leave on account of getting hammered here once in a while, okay every post, you do contribute some things that even a western idiot like me enjoys once in a while. DALE E you are so damn funny. You know outside of my house I have a sign that say "Welcome to The Morning Wood" izifaddag Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/9/2005 9:18:02 PM   Damn well said Nas izifaddag Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/9/2005 9:21:00 PM   Another middle age man living in a fantasy steps up to the plate. That takes guts Annika and deserves your respect. Last roll of the dice. Guts, courage, real romance, real love. Can we say that abiut the other side? What do you think JMO? jmoluv Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/9/2005 11:21:59 PM   I do remember Annika making the statement a while back that western men are very easy to manipulate. A comment like that will always identify her to me about her ideals. izifaddag Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/9/2005 11:26:00 PM   Jaymo She speaks for many. But we digress. Is anybody else going to explain their method of sorting the chaff from the wheat?? Annika77 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/10/2005 6:14:52 AM   Im excited :) Why Dale E and CQ understood excactly what I wanted to say, do they have some extra brain cells:):):)My respect! And this : their s... dont smell thing..BRAVO! Izi...I really warn you now...calm down or you will get screwed again! Nasfan, you wrote nicely, all these rattlesnakes, sharks and angels and princesses. But I dont belive you will win Nobel literature price :):) nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/10/2005 6:53:03 AM   Annika, I by no means live in any fantasy world. And my situation could blow up in my face at any moment, Refering to Nobels invention of TNT. So I am prepared for the worst. At least with the rattlesnakes you know where you stand!So I wish you well, keep posting you motivate me to make this a success more and more! izifaddag Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/10/2005 7:41:18 AM   Annika First of all I am quite calm. Secondly how am I going to get screwed again? I don't understand. How can taking a more cynical and cautious view of all this defeat my purpose? Am I not taking the exact same position that you have? Far from being burned it will protect me and I will not be screwed. The complete opposite of what you say. Also Marina did not screw me. The woman obviously has problems and I got caught up in the tangle. That is not the same as being screwed. That is when some woman coldly and calculatingly uses you and kicks you to one side. Like JMO's Oksana. Marina did not do that. Frankly I think she regrets what she did but too late now. I am a little on the cold and calculating side now myself. Self preservation. I do not like your lefthanded insults in a thread that was not started for mudslinging. I wanted to know the stategy that others used in their search. You deviated from that why I don't know. Everything was fine until we were told that you thought we were soap opera material and that probably Nas's relationship was doomed. You really are a treasure. Then you go to another thread that was trying to address another serious subject and try a little Limey name calling. Why I don't understand? What is your motivation? Sometimes people say something in 'humor' that reveals their true nature. It can say it often better than if they had come right out and said (in your case) 'I think you are all fools'. I am quite serious. You do not offend me. You are a shining example of what I have been trying to say in this thread. BE CAREFUL because this is what they think of you. Laugh if you wish but you know I am telling the truth. Look at my case, look at JMO, I doubt that there isn't a man here who has not had multiple attempts on him to either get money or just waste his time. It adds up. Some have found love after diligent searches, others have just been lucky from the beginning. However we should all, especially the newer people remember the motivation and never forget that those sexy beautiful pictures we see are just that. Pictures. I am as guilty as the next man. I have been at this for 9 months and I am still swayed. I think I am learning though and you aid that process. Everytime I see a post or two like those that you have left here I say to myself - remember. This isn't what it seems. This is what they think of us. We are in a fantasy and desperate middle aged men. They have contempt for the succesful ones and secretly laugh at us. It is ok you are not alone Annika I had 2 'conversations' with Marina that said the same damn thing. So don't think I am mad, in fear of failing or liable to be 'screwed' you couldn't be more wrong. Everytime I start to get too hopeful or positive there will always be an Annika to bring me back to reality. Thank you keep posting. Good job. We need you here. You are our reality check among an international group of friends that are trying to do something at best 'dificult' and easily self deluding. You are the counterbalance. Don't be surprised thought when somebody swipes you know and a again though. Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > The 400
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