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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > A way to identify scams Author Post dma Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/25/2004 8:44:23 AM   I can see you've had your hands full Tim. Wednesday welcomed me with 2 unrequested contact phone numbers. Not bad going for someone that is a few weeks a single, but deep trouble if you're with someone :) Another day, another dollar but the saying here is more likely; Another day, another telephone number :) TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/25/2004 8:54:09 AM   Just some troll who decided to have a pop at some of us in here mate. A bit of a no brainer really, can handle him with my hands tied :o)) Im working on being "unsingle" myself, so I know what you mean :o) TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/25/2004 8:56:34 AM   Hope to be headed out FSU way in about 4 to 5 weeks, but at the moment Im stuck here waiting for the sale of my house to complete !!! Cant leave now because I need to sign and deal with the paperwork, or I would be there already !!! Got a lovely lady waiting for me in Omsk, thankfully she understands the situation and is waiting patiently :o) dma Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/25/2004 9:06:00 AM   if you like, I could keep her company whilst you sort the paperwork out... ...maybe not if you've just read that i can't keep my hands to myself ;-) Sounds good. You must be really excited. I'm looking at all options at the moment, local and foreign (mobile has just text me again. lol) but if I am not settled by Summer, I can see myself jumping on a plane or maybe touring the place by car and if it co-incides with a visit of anyone in the same area(s), would consider teaming up as it would probably be quite daunting for a newbie. TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/25/2004 9:10:38 AM   Mate, driving a car there isnt like driving in the US !!! For one you dont have a license that will cover you, 2 you probably will not be able to get insurance and last but not least 3 you will need a sh*t load of money because there are police check points all over the damn place and each time they find you are a foreiger its gonna cost you much dinero !!! For your first trip i would strongly suggest a tour, or something arranged thru an agency, say to meet 3 or 4 women you have already got to know thru email. TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/25/2004 9:12:25 AM   NB: At my last available knowledge, "International driving licenses" are not valid in FSU (non europe, so Latvia is possibly an exception) countries. I certainly wasnt permitted to drive in Uzbekistan or Ukraine or Samara, and Omsk either. dma Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/25/2004 9:44:21 AM   You can't drive there?! Didn't I read a thread about how someone was looking to hire a care to get about? I have done little research on what private travel restrictions may exist, licenses etc, so all feedback is welcome. dma Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/25/2004 9:45:04 AM   a "care" is obviously a "car" with an accent with a go-faster typo down the sides ;-) TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/25/2004 10:05:50 AM   As far as I am aware, and I have been many times to many cities, it is not possible to actually drive (legally) ones self, you could hire a car for your gril to drive of course, and maybe if you hire a car there are special papers that can be obtained when hiring, but you cant just go and hop into any car and drive it, even if you have an international license, are insured up to your shirt collar !! Actually its one of the things which bugs me to death when Im there, I love my car and I do miss driving !! 1 month in Uzbekistan relying on friends and taxi`s drove me barmy !! TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/25/2004 10:17:46 AM   Another important factor: You don't know their traffic and road laws, and it might sound strange, but these "laws" have a nasty habit of changing from policeman to policeman !! And from local citizen to non local citizen, depending on if the cop is feeling the pinch in his wallet that day !!! If you drive at all it will cost you a lot of money in bribes, so beware, the only way to avoid it, is don't do it !!. In many respects Ukraine is different about this matter than other FSU countries. I do know and have met a guy called William, who drove from Austria, his home country, to Lugansk in Ukraine, but he felt it prudent to mention that it cost him about $5 every 10 or 20 miles in bribes to police men from the point he entered Ukraine until he reached Lugansk, and he also mentioned that he would run the same gauntlet on the way back !! It has made me wonder on many occasions if Policemen there actually receive a salary, or are they just given a uniform and told to go out and earn their own !! To be honest I never have felt brave enough to ask one ;o)) Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/25/2004 11:28:45 AM   Hey Gents, there's 3 international driver's licences which cover the world, and with a valid driver's license you can just get them, half an hour's work. 1 & 2 are needed for different countries, but the FSU is definitely part of them. Depending where you go you need both, like for instance two different European countries or when making a longer trip. The third is for some silly no-go territories hardly anybody has a reason for to go to, Bokina Fassa one of them I believe. But you bet you may drive there. And Tim, I'll drive anywhere mate, also in Russia. I'm used to the worst, it's compared to this a doddle there. But I admit that it depends on what you're used to. Regarding policemen's salaries, in some countries they are indeed not paid. Yeah, they are, but they only do not get it so you do. Just add a page to your ID if you're in a hurry or guilty, this sorts it quickly. TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/25/2004 1:25:19 PM   LOL Thanks for that info TD, Ive been going there for years and everyone I have talked to has said its not possible for me to drive there !!! Even I can learn something new ;o)) I dont mean the driving itself mate, I mean the hassle the police will give you, driving doesnt scare me at all in any country, left or right hand drive, no problem, but to be charged every 20 to 30 klms, by crooked cops, for doing nothing but go about my legitimate business I strongly object to and I think even though I now know thanks to you that I can drive there, i probably wont bother. Oh !! One more point, you wont see any road signs in most rural areas, at all !! so even if you drive you might get lost !! And dont expect mapos to be much help either !!!! TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/25/2004 1:27:01 PM   TD, what country are you in mate ? I dont think I have ever seen you mention it or read it in past posts. Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/25/2004 2:27:03 PM   Tim, you speak too much Russian :) Drive, stop when ordered to, be polite and never burst your temper, insert one or two rather common Russian phrases, smile ..... and be as non-understanding as anything. Yes, you have your ID and licenses (intl + your own!), insurance papers etc which you, totally unasked for, show to them, explaining excessively and in detail at length that all is above board. Also a nice wallet, with all kinds of cards however with hardly any money. If not alone your friend, with which you suddenly hardly can communicate anyway, you order, openly and in front of them, to leave it up to you because 'you feel you should handle this yourself for a change'. Be utterly helpful in aiding them with their little booklet with some translated phrases (touristic, hardly sufficient). Have them draw pictures to explain what you're accused of, volunteer to draw traffic-signs to help them explain to you - and on this you absolutely insist! - what you did wrong, meantime all the time avalanching them with English, however all utterly and oh so friendly. Works better than your haggling, they'll tell you to foff. What also works is speaking an entirey different language, with zero knowledge of English. May I suggest Xhosa? Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/25/2004 2:35:21 PM   Oh, regarding maps - Michelin maps, nothing else, and if you can work with it a GPS. Brings you home without fail, anywhere in the world. TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/25/2004 3:05:11 PM   I have a hard enough time staying one step ahead of the cops in my country mate !!!! Im known to sail very close to the wind on a regular basis ;o) I think I could do witjout the challenge of the FSU police departments too !!! And you very neatly side stepped my question too ;o) What country are you in mate ? Its not really important, but I am just curious to know how wide the clients to this site range from. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/25/2004 3:19:27 PM   dma: I like to be behind the wheel myself. I'm a student pilot, I've been a snowmobile racer, I ride a motorcyle and like fast boats. All of these things are child's play compared to Ukrainian traffic. I would never drive there because THAT'S risking your life. One more thing dma - just a note - if you are American (which I'm pretty sure you are (at least I know you're not a "lame Australian" right Tim? (lol))): You will be surprised to find that people park on the sidewalk - in complete haphazardly fashion on every sidewalk that doesn't have huge metal barricades to prevent it. Cars are parked backwards and forward and scewed left and right - and pedestrians walk around them. I told one of my Moldovans that you would never see that in America, so she asked, "Where do Americans park?". I said "In the street." So we turned nd looked at the street with cars zipping by us making five lanes out of three and nearly taking out a couple of pedestians - who happen to be leaning toward the road a little way (at about 50 miles per hour). And she turned to me and said "Why would you ever want to park in the street?". She had a very good point. TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/25/2004 3:36:14 PM   No mate !! Wouldn't wanna be a lame Aussie now would we ;o)) I have seen Ukraine drivers too Jet, you are dead on !!! Its an octane fuelled rat race, death race 2000 but without the rules !!! We park in the street here too, but there is No way anyone I know would do it in any FSU country, speed limits seem to be purely advisory, cuz No-one and I mean No-one sticks to them !!! Then you have the trams and the Avto Buses too !! Driving there is exactly as you say, life threatening !!! Mind you, as we said in another post, so is being a pedestrian !!! Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > A way to identify scams
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