doochy44,
I understand exactly where you are coming from, my father had the mother-in-law from hell, well from Yorkshire actually, and he always told me to make sure that I marry an orphan.
But, I have a fabulous mother-in-law, we get along tremendously and I am able to joke, to tease, and indeed to flirt (all in jest) with her, the most important thing to a mother is to know that her daughter is doing the right thing and with the right man and that is something that is without question by either side.
My beautiful former Moldovan lady was an only child to a widow. As such the certainty was absolute that I would have to bring "Mommy" over sooner, rather than later. Once establsihed it would not have terribly surprised me if they had done the same thing. She (my former lady) told me that her loyalty to me would ALWAYS be scecondary to her loyalty for her mother.
Though I certainly have my moments of wishing that things had worked out between us (after all we dated for three years), I wonder if that would not have neccessarily been a permanent thing, especially in light of your story above.
Saying what I said, I only recalled afterwards the mother of my ex FSU lady, very pleasant on the face of it but there was an underlying plot, 'orphans' is what my father said and if ever a true word were spoken then that was it.
I know that if he would have met my wife & M-I-L then he would adore them as much as I do but a good rule to remember, 'marry an orphan'.
In foreign affairs, women's loyalty belongs to their (1) mother, (2) daughters, (3) sons, (4) sisters, (5) father, (6) brothers, and (7) husband. But men's loayalty belong first to their wives. In many cultures, there's no such thing as a couple. You don't marry one person, but you marry the whole family. Life is more complicated than the photos you men look at, and think, at most, it would take a travel.
Sergey
the lingo for young guys that are trying to be tuff is calling everybody bitches...including
each other. your apartment must be in the wrong part of the 'HOOD'. I've heard the lingo many a time
from the young and immature
I agree in principal Martin. But its a little hard to ask for.
Something like...
"Yes... Hello... Its nice to meet you too!'
"But tell me... are you an orphan? You're not?.... Well what about your friend over there... are you an orphan?"
Martin, you really are starting to make things difficult here.
We are now looking for a woman with perfect English, or at least understands, get me a beer.
32yrs old, not too young not too old. 55kgs +/-2. At least somewhat good looking. No children, they just cause problems. Nice,would be bonus. And now orphan!!!!!!
Any idea how much this cuts the numbers down??
Adman,
I wasn't going to respond to jetmba's post, although there is no harm in his post, but to clarify things:
When letter writing it is quite natural to ask regarding her family, this includes parents, brothers and sisters. A guy will probably start off by writing to multiple ladies to reduce them to a number that meet his criteria, i.e. height, weight, colour of hair, does she have baggage, does she speak English, is she a 'goer', blah blah blah and one could include into his criteria 'are her parents still around'.
To ask a lady regarding her family, in letter writing, is a very natural question to ask. Of course, should you be chatting up a lady at your local bar or at a, so called, romance social in FSU then perhaps it is not such a nutural question to ask, unless of course one is interviewing the lady, I've been asked such a question at job interviews previously.
But Adman, I do understand the humour in your post :)
And I debated whether or not to write the humorous (or so I tried anyway) monologue above, for concern over whther it would throw a little gasoline on the letter writing/romance social fire, which even no still has a glowing ember or two.
I don't think that Adman meant to touch so much on that as to suggest that we have quite a shopping list here of desireable traits in the ladies we look for.
I can certainly understand those who are dedicated to writing letters. The techniques are altogether different than once would use is one-to-one, face-to-face meeting but I still contend that face to face meetings are more natural. And in all seriousness - when you meet a girl, here or in the FSU, if a family oriented aspect is your concern it can be brought up quite comfortably within a few lines of conversation - just as it can be mentioned early in the letter writing process.
beemer -- this wasn't in the hood. this was at the university dorm and university apartments, and these were white university students.
ladyjane -- i agree with your family orientation. i once delivered chinese to this white-SE asian couple (with my BSEE degree in my back pocket). guy gave her a little extra to tip me but she pocketed the extra. you even hear of women shipping refrigerators to their families.
On orphans, i thought the same until this russian coworker told me "orphan will kick your a**". Forget orphan, even girls from low income can be too shrewed and tough for an average dude in the west.