Beemer,
honestly you sound just about 62% genuine. C'mon Beemer, one more spoonful of honey and you'll get 300 $ for a loaf of bread from the next... philanthrophist.
***My last post on this subject. Wind you are not the arbiter of whether advice is good or not. You clearly dont understand economics. There are significant cost savings that can be had determining cheaply whether a lady is serious or not rather than wasting significant dollars (and emotional energy) going to see her in her home town even if this is usually good sense. It is a matter of circumstance that can not be generalised and as Martin has put there can be other alternatives.***
GD the point is not about economics, okay for some it may be, but just for a second look at it this way. If you have a child that acts up or misbehaves, do you reward that behavior with gifts & candy or do you punish the child & reprimand him/her? Or a thief robs a store and steal money & items, should the courts reward that behavior with cash & more gifts or punish the criminal severly?
I look at giving money to scam agencies in the same way, they are thieves & con artists, by you or others continueing to send them money, you are rewarding their behavior & affirming that what they are doing is okay. Lets face it, if they were operating in the US or Canada they would be in jail, period.
All I am saying is "don't reward bad behavior'! In the end it helps no one but hurts many.
I apologize for attacking you earlier in this thread, that is beneath me. I just get so emotional about this issue that at times I lose my perspective. I run an honest shop & I struggle to survive, all the while all around me I see the thieves getting rich. It is frustrating & totally demeaning to everything I am trying to accomplish.
This industry needs to be cleaned up, big time, but that clean up has to start with you, the clients. No matter how attracted you are to a woman at a shdy agency, you should avoid it at all costs or at least avoid sending them money. Cut off the flow of money & they will quickly be out of buisness or forced to clean up their act. Don't reward them by helping them to continue ripping people off, make them pay for their bad behavior & reward the honest agencies with your buisness.
Ok one last comment! Wind, apology accepted and reciprocated. I agree there is not much point name calling each other. Those of us who have experience in this game all have value in their experiences to share. I dont advocate sending significant amounts of money to these ladies, it is preferable to meet and several times, which for many is a big committment. What I have basically been trying to point out is where you have an opportunity to put a lady to the test in a practical manner it is worth considering depending on your individual circumstances. In this case if she is asking for money for a visa it is not very expensive to pay for it and get her to send a scanned copy of the passport, visa and receipt. If there is suddenly a crisis forcing her to spend the money on something else then give her the flick.
One of you guys probably know Veronika, or Aleks, or a multitude of others... :)) Don't you understand some fool is making photos of ladies, giving them $20 for the photos and then writing letters to you? How many times do you think you've told Boryii, or Aleksandr, or Oleg that you want to sleep with him? Please! Why does everyone always think it is some woman scamming them? Use your brain, that's why God gave it to you... DON'T SEND MONEY UNTIL AFTER YOU'VE CHECKED THINGS OUT!!! In almost every case, if the lady is serious, she will cover the cost of letters, translations, etc on her own. In most cases if you get asked for money... IT IS A SCAM!!! There is no such thing as a medical problem in the FSU that is in dire need of cash... remember socialized medicine? It is still there! Cost of an average letter from the internet cafe is approximately 40 to 80 cents (this is from her to you) It costs you nothing to write her! And if you're only daydreaming and not honestly planning to go get the girl... don't waste her time...
Sorry who might like her - see photos - Bolshoubrat.ru
Boris does NOT GET THE $$$ MATE YOU guys read to many books men picking up $$ sorry= myth ---------------mate id help NO western bird - no way id help no YURI no way - i decide whom needs help ( like the old add on tv ------ its my money ralph!!! -- beemer - love /.women in FSU sorry but its all bought and sold = reality !
either your in touch with it --------or your not ------
Its so so easy to pick a scammer --i dont believe in the YURI HOLDING A BUNCH OF ROSES AT THE TRAIN STATION ! what a joke !
thats all crap --i believe what i see --il help whom i see ! ive never seen in my times in russia a YURI running the wrought --------not saying it don't happen just saying ive never seen it -------------when i see it ---then i believe it --its like everything in that country you believe what you see .
any man that does not = PRIZE MUG !
I GIVE away $$ to a few birds you dork ---------because if i dont help some bugger the tax man takes it - in my view hes the biggest basterd in the world ! id rather see a bird get the benifit of a few bux ---even if she is 25% crooked .she deserves it more than ''john mcfilth '' at the tax office --------don't you think !! makes fine sence to me.
i do my own checks mate on a bird as i said if iam satisfied she is dinkum / phones me gives me addy - ( believe me i go to huge lengths to check her out before i send a quid )
then if iam satisfied i ==== send $$ good its my dough ! i will do as i please with it and over all ----------iam a long long long way from the short on dollars catagorie my girl ive had for years great bird cost me some sure ( they all do ) but she only costs me what i thrust at her -i dont get asked for money mate .
I cant recall all ive sent to maybe 6/7 birds over the years maybe 10 who's counting maybe ive given away hmm $10k maybe 11k -------usd its only money mate = 26 days earnings to me = so what catagorie --i may as well help sombody is how i look at it .
I give 5k a year to charity what else would you have me do with it ?
i went out 5 days ago i bought a nice car BMW 318IS SPORTS COUPE i didnt need a new car i was bored to tears ! so i went out and got rid of over 26k --so what ( hey and i aint mad about cars )
But its a nice toy ive organised have it shipped to russia sweetheart can use it as her shopping trolly --hey got a good deal world wide cartage ay $2100 in container to get it thier .
SEE i look after my bird big time --hey iam lucky i dont have $$$ worries !
beemer id Be chuffed TO send you a piccy in month or so darling in her new shopping trolly ! she can have it cars dont impress me ---i bought it only to pacify her what the hell yawn .she moaned about catching buses so i bought her a BMW -----SO WHAT !told her id send her a surprize !( better than flowers )
Its time to pack the bag i leave in 6 days for land of crumpet shaken not stirred .
( must admit i took BMW for a drive overlooking my city high up its the best view i can get) to look down upon the great unwashed down below and marvel at what all the ''poor folk are doing !! its a bugger of a place aussie - no class ive got nobody to play with -
All morgage slaves makes me sick interest rate people moaning about houses and the price of petrol/ beer / fags --so\ mundane ay no class structure at all .
all worried about pennies ohh gawd il run to the airport dive into my business class seat on plane ----put yu foot down son get me to russia for god sake man and dont spare the horses .
mike00
No borefukka my business is a Classified Historian and a small company , antiques etc supply company - NICE FAT - COME IN SPINNER - CASH COW !
Thunderdome in russia it dont matter what side the steering wheel is on - remember its the land of anything goes ive seen plenty right- hand drive cars there ------hell over thier who would care?
who'd be bothered ?who would know ? who would bother to look ???
If the local law has a beef huh i just slip em 500 rubles and they vanish - if yu got $$ there you can buy your way out of just about anything --you guys know $$$ talks in russia - always !
Boardy my business is great - i do a lot of ebay too - money for jam ! why would yu go to work when you can live off a pc ?
Hey to those who aint thought of it do as i did ---------relieve yourself of your girl ( oh darlink iam broke scenario ) i set mine up computor / stock got her trading ebay from russia not so hard - took a bit of educating her left her some trade stock she flogs it sticks it in our bank i tell her keep 1/2 live enjoy ! i really dont care what she does with her bit ! long as stock is covered who cares she's never let me down yet !!------your financial burdons are relieved - ok so it cost 2k to set her up BIG DEAL !-------its better than finding westy unions every ten days --all the monies the guys lose on westy unions hell 3 months of ohhh il save you dear with westies = you could have turned her into a business woman on pc for what its cost you ! hmmmm !!money well spent grow your empire !!
of course you have to trust your sweetheart mines great no worries i hope she gets rich whilst she is getting thier -- she aint costing me anything either !!!
What do i end up with my poor blonde / turned to a rich blonde in a BMW ! GOOD ON HER = success ! good for her i say !
iam killing 2/ 3 birds with 1 stone and she;s making me a $ to boot - easy ay !
Guys its so simple really to correct all the worries --get her earning her own $$ mines making around $680 / $780 a month now instead of $200 a month working for some deviot director --i dont know why guys find it hard ??? . i dont think they try .
still i spose its all back to dollars if you can do it well and good - if you dont have the $$$ your sunk .
Still with these girls ---- anybody playing ''chase the russian blonde'' on 45k usd a year is really wasting her time and his ------they dont need any more poverty than they have got ay.
a 45k man doing him annuals 4 weeks a year aint got a prayer , she'l wrought him to death and 10 others ( as a girl would if ''little joe'' can only afford 1 trip a year) = i do 8 a year now iam really pouring the time into it .
End of the day its all back to $$$$$$ everything costs !
Actually to a funny thing just happened to mate of mine in TYVER his girl getting the hard word put on her by Director he phones me all worried ( HE IS THERE DERRR) ( i said to him luke !!!!---- hes a dirty little URI) ---------your 6 feet 5 take the germ outside give him a serve - thats the only way to handel a filthy director .
He took my advise --hes got skinned knuckles but the ''Director got the message'' problem solved easy easy .
i had to laugh its like saying i can catch a bus but i dunno how to buy the ticket = f-----sake man !problem solving is easy - just come the monster on em - they'l run away iam sure .
You know i went through the Big bad director stuff back in 1999 with the first girl - i cant belive they ( the girls )actually put up with it ! he got educated too the hard way - i wont put up with that crap ---man with the money gets the honey - he also gets to say whom can touch and whom cannot !
I can't believe the URI'S are actualy silly enough to touch a western mans girl ( but they are )--you would think they'd know that western mans girl is forbidden fruit then ay --still a smart man from anywhere else would realise at once the situation = whoops western lads girl touchy feely = forbidden ( they must have a death wish some of the URI'S )
They only get away with it if we are silly enough / weak enough to let em ay !!!