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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > i like to know the mentality of ukraine ladys Author Post aussieman41 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/15/2007 8:21:47 AM   Wow, Aussieman gets a verbal bashing from the Master Yoda's of this forum, Nasfan6 and beemer18 somewhat. Nasfan, what a prolific bashing of me..are you going to make that part of an epic novel? Look who's talking, the yanks are upset. Who really has any credibility in this forum with all the tripe that is spewed out here at times. This is fun..for a good laugh sometimes but FSU girls and internet scamming is a real serious matter. Ivor_BoredFukka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/15/2007 10:33:18 AM   Aussieman, With all due respect there are risks in almost everything in life, if you dare to cross the road there is a chance you might be hit by a car and likewise if you venture into internet dating you will come across a dishonest person but does one shout 'Don't cross the road, you're going to get hit?', I don't think so somehow. But I tend to agree with you regarding verbal bashings etc. nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/15/2007 12:15:53 PM   Nope Aussieman, Get on a plane, go visit the FSU, then maybe your googled posts will carry some credibility. Guys like you create great scams because you have never experienced one minute in the FSU. You will comment on scamming as an authority. FSU girls and internet scamming is a real serious matter? You grind your axe against the FSU when I'm sure you have pedophiles in Australia scamming young children. Chase that cause it has more merit. YOU DON"T GET SCAMMED FOR MONEY IF YOU DON'T SEND IT!!!!Simple easy not difficult to understand. I'm far from upset, but you lack any credibility to post anything regarding one FSU female, hell you were probably scammed by a guy and now it's hell to pay for the women. If you were foolish enough to get scammed, that's your problem. These forums are littered with so called experts that never stepped foot in the FSU. Guys in the past here with voices of experience were exposed as frauds. You still continue to post about scams and new guys read this like your some voice of knowledge and reason. Never even stepping foot in the FSU. Since I've read about all the Mercury missions does that make me a rocket scientist? Hell no. But you shove into the heads of new guys what a ripoff it is all the scams ect and never experienced one minute in the FSU. Come back and share some pertinent information when you've actually visited the FSU. Instead of your failures and demoralizing some guy who can succeed because he's not an idiot like some here. stoffel Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/15/2007 2:50:03 PM   2 september I will go back to my girl 3th time in 4 months I met her trough an agencie Now she got travel passport & we will go to belgium embassy to get her visa I think she means it just like I am. We have contact almost every day(phone or sms) You have to be patient with honest ukraine girls,I think Don't rush things,in the beginning there was no kissing on the mouth,holding hands. Last coupple of days of 2cond trip she changed,she took initiative,kissed me,took my hand etc... All I can say,have patience. we will see what happens further apal1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/15/2007 5:30:55 PM   I always mention my encounter with a serious GD gold-digger and also the other wonderful girl I met the next day almost always at the same time because they are polar opposites and is why I bring those up in regards to FSU women to the extremes of what a guy might encounter. I don't mention the others, simply because they aren't worth mentioning. Same goes for the girls of Latin America I met and had relations that lasted more than a week at a time. If I wanted to have gotten married there -- easily could have. Wouldn't have even had to go back several times or continue the letter writing process. I just couldn't do it. Anyways, no - I won't be writing to anyone in Africa, although a young beauty in Ethiopia (via HeartsofAsia.com) did have me seriously contemplating it -- but that's too much cultural difference for me personally to handle very well. I'm writing to women again, and I might write to some here on Fiance.com soon -- we will see. The mentality of girls in FSU within the marriage agency system are somewhat different and someone the same as the ones in Latin America. But the agencies are much alike -- they all want to gouge you for as much money as possible before you leave. Ivor_BoredFukka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/15/2007 5:35:42 PM   I'll kiss you and hold your hand for a 'meal ticket' ! lanceharvie Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/18/2007 6:35:41 AM   I have one word "Chemistry" it's either there or it's not. This applies across cultures. I've dated English, Australian, German, Spanish, French and Russian women. All these women were warm, loving and tender towards the right man!! Men are too obsessed with physical contact why don't you get to know the women first. If there is chemistry the physical will happen guaranteed. I'm currently in a loving and highly romantic relationship with a beautiful Russian lady. I love Russian women they are the best of the best in all qualities. apal1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/19/2007 8:38:04 PM   Chemstry? Of course, but writing someone first is always a total crapshoot. If a girl does show up (chance she wont -- even after several months of writing letters -- by other accounts here) then there is either chemistry or there isn't. When a girl smiles at you and tells you that you are attractive and doesn't hold your hand? Is that a good sign? Or is a good sign to meet another and have a romantic, sensual caress while you are alone in a park? Which would you say had chemistry? One girl I wrote many months, one girl I did not write one letter to -- both were agency girls. Chemistry also includes how much money you make and what type of luxury lifestyle you are going to provide too... it's not all based on looks, appearances and compatible interests... beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/20/2007 1:30:24 AM   Chemistry also includes how much money you make and what type of luxury lifestyle you are going to provide too... I disagree, chemistry has NOTHING to do with how much money you make and your luxury lifestyle, com mon Apal, do you actually believe that!!!!! A filthy rich man in the bank and some girl on the street outside...wow lot of chemistry there and that is even before they ever met. What about a couple that is extremely poor, break them up, cuz there can't be any chemistry there........ Money and lifestyle may determine if girl will be with you, even without looks, appearence and compatible interests. If any part of chemistry is based on money.......look behind you every second, cuz somebody will be there to sweep up your girl from you!!! apal1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/20/2007 11:10:10 AM   In this case your wrong beemer. Hang out with more gold-diggers. Even locally a golden girl's eyes will light up the moment she knows she is speaking with a rich guy. Of course, he cant be old and foul-looking. But they put on those gold-goggles as much as we sometimes we put on beer-googles. ;) The lure of wealth is a well-known aphrodisiac in many cultures around the world... It's been that way since the dawn of civilization. Nothing changed, except how big the expectations are getting with girls in the FSU to go for the very wealthy guy now. beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/20/2007 7:41:37 PM   For one thing Apal, there is no right or wrong here, only my thoughts and your thoughts and many opinions. If you are calling people 'wrong', step off the high horse. I stated in post that I disagreed with you!!! :)) An old foul looking guy worth 100 million dollars can get any girl. There is a price for everything. My point had to do with chemistry not money. I do understand your point about how money works with many girls, as you have spoken before, one girl didn't have interest in you once she knew you weren't a rich guy. I try to stay away from those. Not all girls in FSU are going after the very wealthy but guys have to have something to offer if they are going to get girls to leave their homeland...that is a fact!!! Well...going to put on my beer-goggles................. apal1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/21/2007 3:38:43 PM   Your right about no absolutes, but "An old foul looking guy worth xx dollars can get 'any' girl"?? ok disagree strongly... absolutely lol. ;) But yup agree with the the fact also that not all FSU girls are after daddy big bucks, but an amazing amount of new girls 'absolutely' are, while some aren't... But yet, also agree strongly that you do have to offer them something no other local man can give them... if you are not attractive to them, and do not have much money, it's really a no-brainer on potential chemistry. OgdenDave Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/21/2007 6:37:52 PM   I guess I must be one of the lucky ones that did not get taken to the bank. Then again I did not start a relationship with a "supermodel" either. Had to pry my girl off of me with a pry bar so I could make my flight to come home. No fancy shopping sprees, never has asked me for money. She cried when I gave her some cheap $200 diamond ear rings. Her 7 year old daughter is adorable and speaks English quite well for it being her third language. Very lovable and affectionate, both of them. beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/21/2007 6:59:13 PM   I can tell you plenty of millionaires are strolling around with hot looking babes probably 40-50 years younger. Why????? MONEY-$$$$$$$$ You think Anna Nicole Smith was with that old geezer because she loved him? She was just waiting for him to croak and slip right in to an large inheritance. Millionaires are not looking for love or marriage.....just a companion that gives you 'pleasure'. I do believe the movie Indecent Proposal, was accurate in money can buy anything....there is a price for everything. It maybe really high but it is there. aussieman41 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/22/2007 3:56:41 AM   Nasfan, I have been definitely fooled by a Ukrainian woman in the long time past, had quite a few phone calls with her, had her checked out, she only wanted gifts and money from me and was never serious about ever going to Australia, she is shacked up in Hamburg, Germany now with a Chinese guy, I have my sources of inside info on the FSU from real Aussie guys who ahve been there and regreted it. Been fooled by agencies too in the past but cut them off before I spent too much money on paid to read fake e-mails from fake FSU girls or canned e-mail responses invented by the agencies from real girls who never knew themselves they were writing to me..the translators knew though. I am testing the water with one girl from Krivoy Rog though, seeing if she is the real deal but it takes time to subtlely probe them, it looks okay on the surface and the girl appears to be real but over the internet you can not read the real intentions in her mind, you can't do that at a personal meeeting either. I am doing my thorough "risk assessment" on this Krivoy Rog lady before making any decisions to take it further. apal1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/22/2007 10:57:04 AM   Ogden - you sound like you got a golden one. She's a keeper for sure, hope it works. I had a similar one in Colombia who I just couldn't see me married to, just because she had difficulty keeping her word to me a lot. She tried, but I can't be with someone that says one thing and does the other whenever she feels like it -- especially after she promised not to ever do it. Beemer - agree (strongly - very strongly) about what you just wrote. I see it all the time. Money is the ultimate age-difference factor breaker, zipper sliding, button popping aphrodisiac known to mankind. ;0 Aussie - sounds like your hitting the gold-diggers and got seriously burned too. A lot of these agency girls are immoral and just want money -- simple as that. A man doesn't have to be as attractive if he has a big bankroll. Chinese guy in germany? Sounds like he is that type of man she wanted (moneyman). Start trolling for humble girls in the smaller cities... I will never go for a big-city FSU girl ever again... too many local good-looking guys there, and this girl can't find someone? Fat chance, she wants the good life, and will do anything she can to get it - even if it means burning your pocket book to sustain her until she finds that rich guy. aussieman41 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/23/2007 10:41:11 AM   The amount of money I have lost to FSU oportunistic women and con artists is very mild, I have had a little singeing, over the past few years the amount spent on agencies and girls is less than $1000, I lost most of that as a newbie in my first year doing this dubious crap, I have been very much more careful and alert since, sent girls small gifts to confirm address and intentions, letters, cards, photos that sort of thing..the scammers are easy for me to pick. The Krivoy Rog girl I have has some question marks over her but she has done nothing bad, she asked me for an item she could never get in Krivoy Rog, I bought it and sent it and it cost $70 aud including the postage there but I have known her on and off for past 2 years and this is the only thing I have sent her. The acid test on her was to send it and see if she asks for more or not, then I can decide if she is a gold digger or not..she never asked me for money or talks about money at all and seems to be real, she does not complain about her life there. I am writing to no one else, if she turns out to be a disappointment down the track, I won't bother with any more fsu girls..she is the last, I am far more wary and tight fisted when it comes to these girls and I never send them money..never and rarely small fry gifts unless I think they are real. apal1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/23/2007 7:05:50 PM   Yeah, I'd agree aussie - you got a decent approach. She doesn't seem to be a gold-digger by any means. Best of luck. I am only really talking to one girl on this site too, but I got another on one more site I am writing to. I just go through them one at a time. Less confusing that way... and cheaper I suppose. I'm just too sincere I guess, just feels too cheap to email 1000's at the same time. That's okay if all your looking for is a shell I suppose. I'm looking for a heart, just seems a lot of these FSU girls are a bit too frigid in that department -- culture thing I guess. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/23/2007 7:12:24 PM   Aussieman, With all due respect are you for real, you've been communicating, on and off, with a lady, sending her gifts, and you haven't yet dared venture onto an aeroplane? Enjoy your life reading your books, google, and listening to hearsay :) beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/23/2007 9:41:14 PM   Don't have to send thousands of e-mails, I do write to much more but one girl at a time, guess guys have plenty of time to look for a girl. I've been through probably over 50 girls, didn't meet them all but down the road, it just doesn't seem to be right or work out for us. If I used the one-girl-at-time approach, my hopes would have been dashed slowly, like chinese water torcher. But to each his own, we do what is most comfortable for us. Assie....girl on and off for past 2 years, doesn't THAT speak to you on where THAT relationship is going. I don't know any girl that would put up with that if she has anything going for her!!!!!!! I remember your thread on this girl, you had such high hopes....even talked of meeting her, am I right. Got to take the bull by the horns, mate, either she's right for you or not........ pack the tent and move on to Thai's Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > i like to know the mentality of ukraine ladys
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