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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Well - I just joined Fiance.com Author Post apal1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/27/2007 12:38:15 AM   No I am not a saint either. But I will NEVER falsely accuse someone of rape when nothing like it occurred. NOR will I lie completely about myself and my outlook on life for an entire year either. A beautiful liar is not my soul-mate... apal1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/27/2007 12:42:18 AM   Oh and trust me, if you'd been reading what I would have posted about this girl, just from that accusation alone, this exact time last year. It would have been in ALL CAPS! Not to mention the emotional equivalency of a mental thermo-nuke going off in your head when the girl you are about to propose to on New Years, happens to mention casually btw, that every letter she beautifully wrote was you was a complete lie - same week your about to spend $3k on just christmas for her and her family... apal1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/27/2007 12:44:42 AM   I'm much better now -- thank you. Just had to create that blog so my future wife would know what type of woman convinced me she was my soul mate and the evil she poured out when I told her she wasn't. 3x now. apal1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/27/2007 12:47:09 AM   beautiful evil "deceptions" I agree. One can hear "Don't be lured into the dark-side of the force..." about now... Adman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/27/2007 1:45:59 AM   Welcome to internet dating. A little rhema from the very first Russian girl I met. She was young, beautiful, witty, talented and the most together girl I have ever met. Bob she said, "All girls on the internet are f'd in the head". Adman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/27/2007 2:43:16 AM   If I have the time line right, she went out with this Ukrainian guy after you two broke up. I am not sure why you think so badly of her? I am almost too frightened to ask what you did to her in that room )) apal1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/27/2007 3:01:20 AM   Adman, you got to be kidding. I don't know if you are just spinning ways on how to try to find a way get at me or if you are actually sincere. After reading some of your own posts, I tend to lean towards you being rather insincere in what you are writing here. And it actually appears you are maybe a bit jealous and subtle with your comments in as inconspicuous a manner as one can be while pretending to be insightful. You jarbs and jibes are rather condescending. Yet, lets take it that your for real and you are taken with this lady: As for what its worth, go for it. If you think she is your type, and your trying to come off as being gentlemanly to defend someone who accuses a man of demanding sex of her at the same time she and her translator visited me in my apartment on my 2nd of 4 days with her, feel free. Unfortunately you might have only read on my blog how she then took my i-pod off the kitchen table without me offering it to her, and saying "Thank you" with her innocent smile. Fifteen minutes later, she's sulking while we're shopping because she doesn't find the part accessory she wanted to the video camera I gave her on my first day... After all this, she still wanted to see me for what its worth. She wrote back and apologized for all that happened and wrote about all the sadness because of our arguments, etc. I chose to believe her again. My mistake. I am of a firm belief the girl is a socio-path with little moral integrity. But she writes good letters. I can spot your deceptions a mile a way. This girl was way out of your league and much smarter than you in that regard. apal1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/27/2007 3:04:31 AM   It's her uncontrollable anger that gets her in trouble with men... I am sure I could have gotten anything I wanted from her if I had chosen to not care she lied to me about all those letters - more than the other guy. I had more self-esteem than to chose to spend the rest of my life with someone so callous and unscrupulous. My loss? Maybe so, maybe she had a beautiful soul like I imagined she did, and everything was a complete misunderstanding. Fat chance. aussieman41 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/27/2007 5:56:53 AM   Apal, it was sexy on the outside but with a deeply troubled soul. Are a lot of FSU girls really psych cases..got some kind of personality disorder, anger management problem? Is it really true, many FSU girls are abused in there child hood, the authorities there don't care or are apathetic to it as its an accepted part of the culture and these abused young FSU children grow into troubled women, psychologically scarred with heaps of problems and issues, which make it very hard for them to maintain long term relationships hence the high divorce rate of over 60% in Russia and Ukraine? Are all the men in the FSU crap..drink too heavily and bash there women or is it, the women themselves that are the head cases which kill the marraiges over there? What is the mystery behind the behaviour of FSU girls..the erratic emotional roller coaster behaviour, I often hear about them. Well women from other parts of the world can have problems too..I had an argument with my ex-wife the other day over my childrens health issues and I called her a "fooken fruit cake" and "fooken mental nut case" which she is!..guess what, we are not talking since I blasted her! Adman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/27/2007 7:19:44 AM   It is hard to understand your situation. You write in perfect harmony for a year and when you meet you have this horrendous misunderstanding. I am surprised the translator was not able to provide enough flux to make it work for a few days. I would imagine at the time when she wrote to you, in her own world, she probably believed her words. In that way the letters are more likely to seem real to you. It is only whether you can look back now in hindsight and now see in them what you didnt see at the time. Probably she is a torchered soul, seeing glimpes of beauty but her own frustrations vented in explosive. Is she the devils incarnate, or love lost? Its hard if shes both. beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/27/2007 9:59:08 AM   Apal, I just read many of your posts here today, did I get this right......you wrote to this girl for 6 months, went to visit one time and was so into her that you were going to propose to her and spend 3K on her family. To each his own but I would like to get to know someone better. It is easy to fall in love with a letter writer...but actions speak much louder than words. This is not some fairy tale that always ends up with a happy ending. I am sorry yours what a nightmare but your case should noted as why you should attack this endeavor with an open mind. The more emotional you are in this, the chances of getting your heart ripped goes way up. Many mistakes are made here, myself included, as long as you are not too emotionally involved, it is easier to realize you made a mistake and move on. What happen to you Apal could have easily happened anywhere but NOT to anyone. I been stood up, used and led on by several girls BUT I did not get too involved until I knew for sure about them. Guys, time is on our side, eventually the true will come out. ... I am sure I could have gotten anything I wanted from her... Me thinks it is the other way around, sorry ben2006 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/27/2007 11:16:05 AM   I was thinking the same thing as Beemer. When she took your ipod and said thanks you didn't say no? Clearly she didn't respect you and thought she could get away with anything (of course it’s not easy to say no to a beautiful girl). I think some girls actually want you to be a man and say no. I won't believe everything people write in letters as you can read what you want to read. Only spending time with the person will tell you if she is the one for you. Also living with someone for a period of time will tell you if each others bad habits are going to cause problems. You sound like a good guy with good intentions, but as my wife says to me sometimes "your smart from computer only" (I hate when she says that). Well she can be harsh but she’s pretty street smart. She would mean in this case is its hard to believe someone who is so successful could make such a stupid mistake and get fooled by a 18 yr old girl. As Beemer says we all make mistakes. I made some bad ones myself. I once meet a girl not unlike your nasty piece of work. I knew she lied sometimes and I thought I could have lived with it if she would actually admit it...but she would still lie. I think sometimes they can believe their own lies. The best thing you can do is feel grateful you found out what she is really like now and not later and know you tried your best, had good intentions and learnt from the experience. Adman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/27/2007 4:05:13 PM   Well I must be the only lucky one. Ive have never had an experience like that, so I cant relate to it. Cant even imagine how it could happen. I do expect a lot of common courtesy on first dates. I assume this is their best behavour. Had one girl where the date started out well. Then she talks on her mobil for 10 minutes, I walked her straight home C Ya. I just dont need the aggravation. I dont know how guys can be so wrong after long communication. I would expect to be able to cope spending 2 weeks with a women I had developed intimate level of correspondence with. Otherwise I have read it totally wrong. And yes I really want psycho girl apal1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/27/2007 7:15:42 PM   Beemer you got it kinda twisted, so let me set it straighter: Adman - Agreed, it is a fact that this girl is more than just very intelligent, as you can see in her literary dissertations. This is what intrigued me the most about her when we first began writing, she is a gifted individual. Yet, this girl definately has true sociopathic characteristics. I will explain: It is only my guess but I am sure her pathology was learned behavior so she could became the perfect little girl in everyone's eyes. You are right, this girl will believe her own lies she creates. It is her sanctuary. And first time you meet this girl, and if she turns on the innocent, angelick look - you will see it firsthand. *** It's amazing! *** Pure and innocent with every smile from her. She will look like a true angel if you ever saw one in real life. I kid you not. apal1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/27/2007 7:21:07 PM   Beemer: The day after I told her I was not a millionaire, was during our face to face in Odessa. Her eyes became the most cold, calculating things you ever seen in your life. The change from sweet angel to cold demon occured gradually, but soon after I told her this on that boatride around Odessa Harbor. When we arrived at the dock and walked back, she pouted and began crying "Porsche!" upon seeing a favorite Porsche at the dock and that moment was burned into my brain forever. And that sweet innocent girl? It was gradually becoming hard-core, princess bitch in each new heartbeat. She is multi-sided to the extreme, and I feel for her. We shared a hell of a lot in common, so much so that it was unreal and I blame this on why we tried writing one another a 2nd time... a few months later... Yeah okay, I have an intense personality if you can imagine. I just thought she was a gold-digger, and okay, I'm a materialistic guy at times, I thought it would still work and so did she, until months later and we are writing pretty much exclusively and then she admits to lying about her letters, at the same time I am about to get Christmas ready, $2k-$3k range. and I would surprise visit her the week of Orthodox New Years in January... I just never realized that someone so gifted and so innocent-looking and young could be able to create such a world for me to believe in that wasn't even real. I felt completely betrayed, when I wrote her the second time after the bad meetings? I thought she was all those great things, and that maybe everything was a misunderstanding and she was just dreaming of some luxuries I could get if I really wanted to... She made a mistake, she fell for me and I fell for her, she thought love would conquer all. I just couldn't forgive her in time... until it was too late and I found out how many more lies she had told me about needing true love before sex could occur. I found out she was all the bad I had thought about her the entire time... just a sociopath with no remorse, only lies to keep her sanity in check until she launches her 'plan' on the next rich guy she sees. apal1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/27/2007 7:36:06 PM   Adman -- If you read the clue as to her plan -- read the last lines of her russian blog on how much she can adapt herself to become the perfect girl for her next victim she tries to ensnare... Just imagine what type of girl can lie for six months so well, appear to this individual as the sweetest most innocent looking girl in the world, and by day 3 she has the eyes of a cunning she-wolf and turns on her angry, disappointed side because I wasn't filthy rich. I still feel for her, I really liked her. If just one of my ventures takes off, we're talking a huge amount of money, but I'm not greedy. I just like nice things, so I guess I'm semi-materialistical? I have been assured she has no remorse over any of this but she has profound sadness now because I rejected her 2x already and this other guy did his thing to her. Strange as it is, she did this the moment I told that translator I was about to be engaged to an 19 yr old very pretty and sexy Colombian playmate-type from an agency there... Very vindictive girl... I just don't see how to label her, love sick neurotic puppy? or socio-path, guys beware? She is so confused about who she is especially with all the personalities she has... apal1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/27/2007 7:38:12 PM   I told you I was not perfect... but I didn't lie about everyone of my letters and acuse her of trying to rape me either... apal1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/27/2007 7:42:56 PM   Ben - You are very correct. Even Armyofbrides said the exact same thing. The translator caused a lot of these problems, but she befriended the girl and it was the translator who would not help me out and sort things out. She was flustered by the girl's behavior, because she knew very sweet and very pretty girls in her agency she thought would be perfect for me and not act so irreproachable. She actually did have half a dozen very pretty girls, stunners. I met with their most favorite choice, and that girl and me had the most wonderful lunch I have ever had in my life. A perfect girl for me... I guess I couldn't get over the original girl. That's the sweet girl that's still on this site . The one girl who looks awesome and has not so good pics? Yeah... she hasn't received many letters from guys on here either... Man you guys just want the bikini girls who look like crap in person. ;) apal1 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/27/2007 7:53:39 PM   If I had been writing the second girl? I would be married already. There was that much mutual interest. But I had been writing to "you know who..." and now you know. I was not jilted, just a bit insulted by her, but just enough for me to warn the next guy about this truly sociopathic girl I once met... beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/27/2007 9:01:10 PM   Apal, I can see why you descibe yourself as having an intense personality. Do you wonder if that rubs some girls the wrong way? I am very easy going, I let some things go right on by, I try not to fight too many battles but look to 'win the war'. What an extremely volatile situation you were in. I don't understand why you tried again to make it work, it is like you both are gases and needed each other for another eruption. I am sure you realize now what you could have better done. I just never let it go that far. It is amazing what a pretty face can do to an intelligent sound thinking man. It takes a certain type of individual to deal properly with relationships and emotions. Some girls just deal differently with guys. We had a guy here that was writing a girl at same time as me. He wrote to a girl about meeting in Latvia, she brushed him off, not very kindly, he was pissed and started a thread about what happened and how terrible she was and how she was just a scammer. Well she is not a scammer and she just sent a note saying she already had a boyfriend, which was not true, and asked her about this and she said that she was turned off by his behavior. I don't know how sincere she is but her demeaner is different with me. I wish I could say I personally met her but I can't. Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Well - I just joined Fiance.com
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