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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Totally taken in Author Post jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/12/2007 10:55:13 PM   Not going to turn this into a platform for idiot MONADA as she isn't worth the time it takes to respond. But I'd put her more as the matter that clings to an asswipe. glad - Don't know about the personal message feature here but the email I use for this forum is jetmba@yahoo.com Its actually my SECONDARY email address (would never list my primary one here). But if you write to me there I will watch for your letter and send my real email address to you. Lokk forward to hearing from you buddy. gladiatorUK Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/12/2007 11:44:25 PM   Jet and others: once you have logged in or posted a message or reply,go to the top of the page,you will see another tab besides the red Fiance logo,any personal message can be viewed there and replied to in confidence. Adman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/12/2007 11:52:24 PM   Hey Monada are you married yet? I hope you boyfriends family trust is watertight. You should ask him about it. No Aussie or kiwi would leave home without one. Happy days and nights)) anothermug Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/13/2007 4:03:11 AM   Hi Glad sorry to hear your tale and I have heard many others like it. One of the things that devastated me most about my own wife’s plots and deceptions was the dawning realisation that her mother and brother were probably in on it too. I had judged them to be of good character even while doubting hers. I spent a fortune bringing her mother to live with us for three months, and other travel with her as well. My wife did not work so that cost me a bundle of my savings. In effect I was being defrauded and just plain robbed. I was a trusting naive fool, with no pre nup. This new job of your wife’s sounds like the continuation of a sexual relationship with the new boss going back for some unknown time. It is nearly always bad when Russians or Ukrainians meet and make friends with same in your Western country. They conspire and plot together. Even Orthodox church types. For FSU women, it is us versus them. You are me are the enemy and must be destroyed, and bankrupted. The Cold War is not over and the Russians are winning. You unwisely spent money and time fighting the UK authorities getting her mother a new visa - not permanent I hope - now spend some more and get her mother out again. She is part of the plots against you - maybe she is there just to mind the child while your wife works. The plot is at least 12 months old, maybe not 5 years. I have heard of a couple of western fathers now living as single dads after their Ukrainian wife ditched the child and the husband and went back to Ukraine or to some other sunny childless future in their Western country. I have met one of these men. My own wife of course will pretend that I never existed, that she came West as a student. Hah! I took a hard line with my own wife, which I have often regretted. Everyone I asked beforehand told me - “get rid of her“ - yet I am the one who has had to live with the consequences. Beware of all advice you receive and weigh it all carefully. . I told Immigration about my wife’s behaviors even before I booted her out of my house. That was well within the two year waiting period where good and moral behaviour is required by Immigration Law. Then it really hit the fan and she moved in with my mother within a few hours -a long premeditated plot by both of them. Then my mother gave up her own luxury waterfront bedroom to this cunning, charming, lying and utterly ruthless young female. My sisters were devastated to find that their own mother did not care about them at all. I was less surprised. Then, my mothers physical and mental health went steadily downhill, just as mine had, and just as my wife’s own mother was unhealthy while living with her daughter. All three victims are now healthy, happy and sane. Yet I might take the schemer back tomorrow if she asked - which would be an incredibly dumb thing to do on my part. Yes, I love and miss her. Her life will always be tumultuous and full of self sabotaging behaviors. My wife planned to get all my mothers money, well over a million bucks. Quite a valuable win for a young woman from the slums who had rarely worked and never studied, other than English in her own time. . Luckily my mother booted her after five months. Unluckily my wife is still in my western country and probably never will get the marching orders she so richly deserves. I proved her bad character and Immigration fraud, but so what? She is not a criminal or terrorist, but is a beautiful young woman (narcissistic and possibly psychopathic, but who in the Government cares about such things). So I got in the first punch but the counter punches of a Ukrainian woman are pretty devastating. She told my mother and no doubt Immigration many ridiculous lies about me. A man might as well lie down and let them walk all over you instead of fighting. Glad, you will lose a bundle whatever action you take - but do get legal advice. Your five year marriage with child means you will pay through the nose both now and later, unfortunately. You can try and hide some cash but for sure your wife will know your assets down to the last cent. Did your wife ever open your financial mail marked private and confidential? Mine did. We men must always pay in Nanny state Western countries of fools and idiots. Lands no longer fit for heroes but instead for wimps, cry babies, do gooders, bleeding hearts, women and poor immigrants with tribal values and criminal mentality. Better that a real man moves to Ukraine and stays there. In any case I like living in Ukraine even when without a girlfriend. All may end happily for me, After seven months of searching within Ukraine I have found a not so slim, shorter female who is genuinely attracted to me as a person. Not in Kiev but a provincial city. This woman earns more money than the average Western man, in a job working 7 days a week. I have been to her workplace and know what she does - it involves other women and the big amounts of money they will spend on their own ideas of beauty in Ukraine. She does not speak English. Only time will tell and I will not be taking her to my country for years, if ever. It is best never to take a Ukrainian woman to your Western country. Live with her in her home town - that most often leads to lasting success. Or live in any country where you cannot get her citizenship. Also drip feed money and do not hand over your capital, houses, credit cards, cars that sort of thing. Do not be in a rush to get her relatives to your Western country. The long time delay rules are there for a very good reason. Make her get a job right from the start and buy her own clothes etc. that helps miinmise the losses when she leaves, as she usually will in your western country. Good luck Glad and sorry to ramble on with advice to newbies. beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/13/2007 1:25:37 PM   Another.....this is third time hearing your story, sorry it happened but because it happened to you does not mean it will happen to everyone. You are generalizing...anytime a FSU girl decides something, she is plotting, cunning, doing something evil....do you think that maybe it was something that was thought of for some time and maybe at some point a decision was made and because she didn't tell you what she was thinking guess how she is viewed. Should I look at my ex-wife as a plotter and evil because she came to me one day and asked for a divorce????? No man can ever understand a women, where ever she is from, we think as men and in that sense can incorrectly view a women. There ARE women that are plotters, blood sucking women with no sense conscience but let us view them as individuals not races or cultures. Intresting how you parallel your ex's exploits with Glad's. Maybe only thing they have in common is a tearing apart of a family. I have also heard some stories of men abusing their FSU wifes during their early part of marriage when girl is in her weakest position, from abuse, to jealousness, to treating her kids unfairly. Two coins to this issue. As far as Glad goes, HE and HIS child are ones paying most from this situation. Quasimodo Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/13/2007 1:33:52 PM   gladiatorUK – I don’t think that happens because she is Ukrainian but never the less it is a very painful experience, you probably don’t see any bright side of any suggestions but believe me, I have been through similar circumstances so was my wife Monada, definitely there is a better future around the corner, Adman – “The family trust” is in joint names, that is me and my wife Monada. Adman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/13/2007 5:45:44 PM   Quasi - "joint names"???!!!!! OH MY GOD!!!!!.... Your lawyer should be disbarred for allowing you to do that. I bet your lawyer made you sign a stack of waivers as high as the ceiling. Of all the things I have read on this forumn, that takes the cake. Quasimodo Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/13/2007 7:14:25 PM   No Adman - What takes the cake are your out of contest comments, I don't need to explain our personal life in this forum, I trust my wife. MONADA Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/13/2007 11:12:36 PM   by the thay Glady, did your wife grab all money from accounts and took all furniture from house? if not you should be happy, bcs this is what usually western wives do : ) )) ) )) MONADA Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/13/2007 11:26:13 PM   another, are you stupid or what??????? as far as Glady "spent" on his wive "money and time" (which husband suppose to do), that woman also spend on Glady her time and efforts. He didn't seem to be unhappy in his marriage, that's why he has to be thankful to his wife that she spent with him 5 years of her life. no one is loosing. Loosers are those stupid idiots who start to cry and be upset etc, and write tones of pages on forum that all FSU women are scammers. anothermug Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/14/2007 3:07:31 AM   Some people like Beemer and Monada miss the point of my story. I have never said all FSU women are scammers. A lot are, especially English speakers on Elena’s Models or even worse Ukraine Wife Now, and I have met many of them. Most are pro daters, not gold diggers or scammers. But they can no longer scam me at all. At most they might get a fresh juice, French mineral water and a few other small first date expenses - no presents etc. This happens all the time in Kiev and almost never where I live now. A first date here usually costs me about $1 for the woman’s chosen beverage. (Kiev prices are about three times bigger for everything). Meals - never on a first date for me now. Translators - I have not spent one dollar on translating with a single woman I have met this year. And my current girlfriend cannot speak English. Marriage agencies - never, ever again. They are infested with many women of dubious intent. I have spent money on translators finding apartments etc. I met too many pro daters in Kiev and wasted three months. Keep well away from that place is my advice except for sightseeing. Young single Kiev ladies are by and large high maintenance. Also, I met my own gold digging, visa hunting, wife in Kiev through a very high priced agency service. That place provided mostly scammers and visa hunters. The lying former owner now lives and works in Crimea still preying on lonely Western men. I have never named him on a forum but might one day. I would not be living in Ukraine for most of 2007 looking for a female if I thought all FSU women are scammers. I have found a genuine woman of good character who works hard and who is strongly attracted to me. Time will tell. Even if it does not work out, it will cost me very little in terms of money. And I am having fun and forgetting my torubles back home. And my wife cannot pull any DV tricks on me while I am away. Glad you could eventually do this too but wait at least six or twelve months. Aussieman41 had some good advice about waiting for the wounds to heal The difference between me and Glad and many others is that I found out many of my wife’s plots in advance and kicked her out. This was not an easy thing to do when married to a beautiful young woman. I was once a looser but I am a man and took control of the situation and ended the emotional, financial and physical harm that was happening to me. Then the harm to my larger family started. But that was going to happen anyway. My wife always planned to move in with my mother. I have a cousin married to a Romanian girl - a long lasting marriage, but she came West at 8 years of age. The Romanian girl said “I wonder why she waited so long”. (To move in and try to grab my mothers assets). Quasi is in for a world of hurt, no doubt about it. But maybe he has very little cash so not too much to lose by giving half away. ben2006 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/14/2007 5:04:45 AM   MONADA and Quasimodo. Why don't give something to the forum instead of kicking a guy when hes down (Well I mean Monada as Quasimodo seems a reasonable guy). You said before you were going to apply for a visa for Australia, a lot of Aussies here (esp Aussieman41) say this is very hard to get. Can you tell us how you got on, was it easy or are you still fighting the system. I think Quasimodo and Beemer are right this can happen in any marriage its not because the girl is from the FSU. gladiatorUK Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/14/2007 6:19:15 AM   Monada and Quasimodo: sometimes people show there true personality in a crisis.My wife certainly showed hers by her total disregard for anyones feelings (including my son)except for her own.She had a carefully constructed plan that she followed to the letter with absolutely no thoughts of morals or anything else. She did her fellow countrymen and women no favours by her actions as you well know there are enough "scam hunters" around as it is.If you bothered to read my post you will see I have no intention of bashing Ukraine or anywhere else for that matter,what would that acheive? The rotten apples always rise to the top and can be dealt with accordingly.I would suggest to you that you take a good look at your own life.Regardless of what has happened to me I WILL get over it,I am a reslient person,and will always be so.For the moment there is a lot of hurt and bitterness inside,but that will fade. For your information I didn't post this on this forum for sympathy or anything resembling it.Because there will always be the trolls and lowlife who get their kicks from somebody else's misfortune (look in the mirror).Those who choose that type of response are morally bankrupt.If it gives you a kick then enjoy your moment,by your comments you show your true side............a lowlife unworthy of further comment. MONADA Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/14/2007 7:43:38 AM   ben 2006: you never know what is goood what is bad. and pain is blessing, my dear. it makes people stronger. steel is born in flame. as you noticed, we operate with a bit different moral qualities. zeeco Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/14/2007 7:50:26 AM   Well said Glad yorkie67 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/14/2007 8:30:35 AM   MONADA, you are truly astonishing! Either these are deliberate "wind up" emails from Monada or "she" is just a ruthless, heartless, robot of a person - a prime example of modern day materialistic humanity (or lack of humanity!). Monada, if you cannot post something rather more constructive than the malicious tripe that you have been serving out, then I suggest you go and peddle your nastiness elsewhere! boredffukka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/14/2007 9:18:48 AM   Hey MONADA from Poltava Have you shaved your face yet? How do cope with the cellulite on your face? What all men need to remember when searching for woman in ukraine is that cold hearted cruel MONADA is typical of 90 per cent of all women in ukraine. MONADA Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/14/2007 10:35:17 AM   Bored and Co, I must make a confession, guys, I do have a bit cellulite around my bums : ) ))) that's actually all what I wanted to say..... for not to annoy anyone else. hertsman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/14/2007 10:40:09 AM   They are selfish and cold hearted because they have a lot to gain by being so. If they were not fed they wouldn't be able to eat and it is us that is feeding them. The British and U.S governments are encouraging this type of behaviour because when the former F.S.U woman arrives in your country she has nothing,after two years and a wedding ring she suddenly finds herself in the position where she can suddenly have hundreds of thousands or even millions over night,all she needs to do is file for divorce so you had better be a good catch or who can blame her for being tempted by the fruit. The laws in Western countries are pitted against men and that is what needs to change. MONADA Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/14/2007 10:44:32 AM   Gladiator, look I didn't want to hurt you. I just try to explain you, may be in not in a normal way, that everything is actually ok in your life. Everybody pass through pain. But it's not a reazon to give up. Look from positive way: 1. you have your money on account safe 2. you have your furniture 3. you have your kid 4. at the end, you are a FREE MAN BE HAPPY, you have everything for that!!!! Woman? Wife?? My Gooood, there are millions of women, pick up any one you like. A bit later, sure, now just relax, get some fun, go to Thailand, get some sex; go to Ukraine, get another bitch, or if you want, get a girl from house next to yours. Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Totally taken in
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