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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > "Todays' Featured Russian Girls" Author Post jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/23/2008 4:46:28 PM   Hmmm... substitute the word "Fruit" for "Fox" in the equation above. (And maybe "Freakin" for the word "For"). Freakin Fruit Cake? Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/23/2008 5:05:32 PM   What a laugh, The 'nasfan cronies' backing up their gang leader, as they always do, and questioning my mental state :) I'm not the fruit cake, or fruit cakes, that keeps on and on, month after month, year after year, questioning another's personal life, whether he has ever travelled to Ukraine, whether he is in his 40's or 50's, whether he was in the military etc. etc. etc. And the gang leader tells me that I need to get a life, what a bunch of morons :) Keep it coming, I'm pissing my pants at you lot, you're all so predictable. xvvx Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/23/2008 7:09:07 PM   Martin It is not good to piss your pants, you obviously have a weak bladder with old age.Maybe you need a nappy Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/23/2008 7:56:37 PM   And another kiddie joins his 'Gary Glitter'. nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/23/2008 8:42:59 PM   Just a thought Martin, maybe the moderators are letting to post this to show what an absolute idiot you really are. Did you ever think about that? Pretty much exposing you for what you are. A hypocrite and a blatant liar. Time for some singy song. Martin_UK Member Send: 12.12.2004 18:03:20 Quiet Charm, I'm off to Ukraine, for the 4th time this year, on Saturday 18 December until 03 January. Have recently split, very amicably, with one UA lady thus moving on to the next. Nothing personal intended regarding those tablets but they go too far and I get somewhat tired of the guys on RWG, who might only have travelled once or twice during their lives, forcing their opinions down others throats. Yes, there is some good advice in them but they go too far, what does 'be a man' mean? Do I really need an RWG guy to explain to me how to be a man? Perhaps I should don a yellow track suit and pop off down McDonalds! An absolute lie above, or did you lie to Natalie in dating talk? What a fraud. Seeing the same woman you saw in April. You've been busted by your own words. Kirkland Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/23/2008 8:52:54 PM   Oh dear. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/23/2008 9:07:15 PM   Kirkland or anybody except for the w@nkers, I'm asking this of you because I decline to speak to that individual who obviously the best part of ran down his old man's leg! What is an absolute lie? I've referred to that trip of Christmas / New Year a few times since, perhaps some may recall the story of the 'shopping for a bl00dy ring' and the argument in a restaurant, it was only a few weeks ago I re-mentioned it with some joviality, and 'that' recent UA lady that I had, then, recently split with is now my wife. So what is an absolute lie? Would some like to see stamps on my passport, would some like to see my air tickets LGW-KBP-LGW and then, a few days after travelling LGW-KBP, I travelled KBP-DNK, after a few days 'of hell' with a 'wrong' lady, and then I travelled back OZH-KBP on 02 January before my flight KBP-LGW on 03 January? I'm at a loss, what is an absolute lie or have some been reading, or listening to, too many comics? Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/23/2008 9:07:44 PM   nasfan6 Member Send: 05.03.2008 22:52:36 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Olegnay I've kept it in PM's but it gets broadcasted here. Which is fine I have no problem saying what's on my mind, but I wanted to keep it off the boards. It's something that needs to get resolved. I will bring nothing up further on this in the forum. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/23/2008 9:27:19 PM   h, Just found my recent recollection of that trip, perhaps just a coincidence that I am referring to the same trip in 2008 as I was in 2004, absolute lie? And look who was the only individual raising objection to another having a good time, yes, Mr 'doom & gloom' himself, and he tells me that I need to get a life ..... what a w@nker! Martin_FFC Member PM Send: 04.01.2008 20:03:21 Report to Moderator ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Ulmo, It obviously depends on the attitude of the individual! One situation I can recall is a Kiev woman (I won't call her a lady) who asked me to buy her a ring, not that sort of ring and indeed a very cheap one. She brought her interpreter along, which of course I was paying for, and we tramped from one store to another to another. Well you know what us blokes are like, 'yes darling it looks lovely' and so it went on, we looked in store after store after store and left thru the doors without buying a ring. Just another store, I thought, as we were walking towards the doors and then all hell broke loose. What had actually happened was that she had decided upon a ring she liked but it needed to be paid for at a cash desk very close to the doors, I was into a routine by now of walking towards doors whilst she was walking towards the cash desk. Well, as I've said, all hell broke loose, 'so you don't want to buy me the ring', well excuse me darling, you could have asked the interpreter to explain things to me, after all I'm paying for her. Well we met for lunch, with interpreter, the next day and she still wouldn't let it rest, during a toilet break I asked the interpreter if it was me or her that was the problem, the interpreter said it was definately her that was the problem and the interpreter said she had never experienced anything like it. Well unbeknown to this woman (from hell) I had phoned my then ex girlfriend (now my wife) the evening before and agreed that if things went pear-shaped we would occupy the remaining time together as friends, well the woman returned from the loo continuing her onslaught so I just got up and left the restaurant leaving her sitting there. I'm not even sure if things could have been resolved had we spoken the same language such was her attitude, all I recall was my frustration, when the interpreter wasn't present, that I just couldn't explain my innocence to her. Well she had been married and divorced twice previously and after my experience I could understand why. Met with the ex-girlfriend (now wife) some 30 hours later after travelling across Ukraine, she knew me well enough to know that I wouldn't act as accused, totally understood my misinterpretation of doors versus cash desk and thereafter, for the next 12 days, we had a fabulous time together just hanging out and getting extremely drunk :) Ulmo Member PM Send: 05.01.2008 11:49:16 Report to Moderator ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Martin_FFC, with the lady you described, she could have both spoken English fluently and it still would have ended in disaster. I don't see that this was a "miscommunication" at all. Sounds like she had her mind made up to be offended and that's just how she was going to be. No amount of talking would have solved your problem. As you say, even your translator said it was her problem. So you can't blame this one on lack of a common language. This is a situation that would have never happened with my lady. My lady would have laughed when I headed for the "wrong" doors and just guided me over to the cashier. Even in the worst case, if she thought I was heading to the doors because I didn't want to buy the ring, she'd have asked me outside why I didn't want to buy her the ring. We'd have talked about it until I figured out what was really going on, and then we'd have gone back inside and bought the ring. It would have been no big deal. In any relationship there has to be a foundation. When you don't share a common language that foundation has to be even stronger. What you had was a relationship with no foundation. It sounds like you dodged a bullet my friend, good on you. nasfan6 Member PM Send: 08.01.2008 6:44:25 Report to Moderator ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- UH Marty, communication with a woman can be impossible even if you both are fluent in the same language. They have this unique ability to turn logic totally off in a nanosecond. Also, I wouldn't considered spending 12 days extremely drunk together as a basis for a sound relationship, well at least in the real world I wouldn't. Martin_FFC Member PM Send: 08.01.2008 7:07:37 Report to Moderator ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- nasfan, I didn't suggest thar we spent 12 days extremely drunk, I said that we got extremely drunk during that period. I actually kept a diary of that 2 weeks which I could revisit to establish how often, I can only recall one morning when, by their expression, I had 'helicopters in my head' so perhaps I exaggerated slightly but it was a fantastic time over Christmas & New Year and we weren't afraid to have a few drinks. What was particularly rewarding about that time was that I met a different 'her', during our relationship previously, and whilst we got on extremely well from day 1, was that it was if there was a shield that she was hiding behind, it's as if the cosmetics were a shield and I simply had been able to discover the real her. Well during Chrismas & New Year 2004/2005, during this 'just friends' fun time we had together, Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/24/2008 12:33:43 PM   nd part 2 of that previous thread: Martin_FFC Member Send: 08.01.2008 7:07:37 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- nasfan, I didn't suggest thar we spent 12 days extremely drunk, I said that we got extremely drunk during that period. I actually kept a diary of that 2 weeks which I could revisit to establish how often, I can only recall one morning when, by their expression, I had 'helicopters in my head' so perhaps I exaggerated slightly but it was a fantastic time over Christmas & New Year and we weren't afraid to have a few drinks. What was particularly rewarding about that time was that I met a different 'her', during our relationship previously, and whilst we got on extremely well from day 1, was that it was if there was a shield that she was hiding behind, it's as if the cosmetics were a shield and I simply had been able to discover the real her. Well during Chrismas & New Year 2004/2005, during this 'just friends' fun time we had together, that shield was down and I got to know the true her and that is the her that I am married to now. I am not married to a 'mail order bride' and certainly no-one can accuse me of being a 'one trip wonder. As I said to my wife quite recently that break-up in our relationship became very emotional, for both of us, but I wouldn't change it for the world, had it not happened then we wouldn't have the relationship and true understanding of each other that we have now. How many of the guys around here, particularly these 'one trip wonders' can say that? Martin_FFC Member Send: 08.01.2008 13:39:53 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Just remembered another 'classic' bit of that story: During the next days lunch her mobile kept ringing and ringing and she kept answering one call after another to the point where it was difficult to continue any conversation. It was just before I walked out that part of her argument became that this matter of argument was very important to her. Well, I'd realised then, indeed the evening before, that there was no point in trying to continue with this woman so I responded by saying 'well if it's that important to you then try switching the focking mobile off', I then got up and left having conveniently paid the bill whilst she had been in the toilet. kiwinorth Member Send: 08.01.2008 17:34:18 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- some how Martin i would have been more concerned about some silly camera hiding in restaurant for some candid camera thing for there local TV. they seem to copy us in everything else. far out how could you not full off the chair in laughter, maybe one had to be there. excellent story mate, with all its drama's it shall has a lot of stuff one can have a good laugh about, you sort of wonder if some are really for real:) but i did turn moments similiar to that around for my own humour with a good smile and exsplanations how to do it one better (if you cannot beat them join them) and watch it hit home on there face, but your one (from hell) takes the cake. its strange how one mentions something on here and its taken literary. we debate the language problems of our two worlds, but then of all things we have problems here taking a half remark for what it is. we speak the same language and yet a lot seem to take one comment as if its defaming the 7 commandments. to serious Martin_FFC Member Send: 08.01.2008 18:42:25 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- kiwi, Fortunately I had a back up plan in my ex girlfriend, despite the blazing row(s) that we had had only some 6 weeks previously once the dust had settled we agreed that we remained the friends that we had been from day 1 and when we got together again, after walking out on the woman from hell, the first couple of days were a bit 'estranged' but we soon got into the swing of things :) During the couple of days that I spent with that woman from hell she questioned if I had told my parent(s) that I had gone to Ukraine looking for a wife. I side-skirted answering the question and when I told the ex-girlfriend of this she said 'but you haven't come looking for a wife, you've come to hopefully embark upon a relationship that might lead to more and ultimately marriage'. Ex girlfriend, now wife, had it spot on and I told her that I felt like saying to the woman 'excuse me darling, whoever told you that you would be priveliged enough to be my wife?'. That is not me, by any means, singing my praises but any relationship takes two people to put the effort in and that is one thing that she most certainly was not doing. She had posted pics of herself on the internet wearing lingerie and had obviously put herself upon a pedestal ..... in real life she wasn't all that and I let her know :) Martin_FFC Member Send: 08.01.2008 20:02:33 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- And whilst I paid the restaurant bill I don't recall that I paid the interpreter, Svetlana as I recall, lovely girl, but it would only have been a couple of hours so about $16. I never asked for an interpreter, it was her, so if one orders something then one pays for it, if she wants the guy to pay for it then it's not rocket science that one doesn't piss off the guy during the interim :) I'd been through a particulary bad exper Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/24/2008 12:35:04 PM   But hey audience, please, let it not be forgotten that I have never been to Ukraine and all my information is sourced via Google. Olga, do you recall the location of that IP address I transmitted from during January/February 2007, you said Kiev, I said Zaporozhye, but hey, let us not argue, may we agree that I was transmitting from Ukraine? beanstobe Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/25/2008 7:11:42 AM   OK guys - Martin (anally retentive or what?)- ffing grow up. Do something more useful in your lives - find yourselves a woman and F... her brains out like the rest out! nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/25/2008 7:19:34 AM   Martin, what's all that nonsense above? You were going to see the same woman over December January that you met in April. You're breakup that you talk about was nothing more, than, well I have one fish I guess I will look in another pond. Oh hows the fishing in freepersonals these days? Marketing research my ass and why on a free site? A real marketer would cover expenses on a pay site anyway. You're lame. Oh the part about my father, what ran down his leg is more legitimate than what your parents bore. You won't rile me up, I'm just going to beat you with your lies and hypocricy. Lets examine the Cornwall incident. Martin_UK Member PM Send: 29.05.2006 20:51:08 Report to Moderator Cornwall, Does her profile state that she speaks English? As wmferg says, it's a money making exercise for the agency, tell her that you would really like to see her city, meet her family, any you REALLY do want to travel to Mariupol and wait for the reaction. Any serious lady will want that you meet the family, a 'good time gal' just wants a 'jolly' in Kiev and just wait for the expensive shopping trips! Martin_UK Member PM Send: 01.06.2006 5:44:29 Report to Moderator Dave, In their culture it is very important for the guy to meet the family, put yourself in the position of a father who's little girl is thinking of moving halfway around the world to live with a guy, wouldn't you want to meet him if your daughter was serious about this guy? I'm sorry but I don't go for this meeting in Kiev fiasco where there are lots of expensive shops etc. Normally she wouldn't be able to travel to Kiev thus you could merely be a 'meal ticket'. Suggest asking if she would like that you meet with her parents & family to gauge the reaction, meeting the family is a 'must' if her intentions towards you are serious. If you are to go for this Kiev idea I would strongly recommend that you have a back-up plan like a Kiev lady in reserve. Scammers are not merely in correspondence, they are there in real life also to empty your wallet as quickly as possible on the expensive shopping trips thus if she were to pull such a stunt you could tell her to get lost and go with a back-up plan. 66, Americans from another website always say to meet a lady in her home city for merely scammer detection purposes. It is almost definate that they, when saying that, haven't taken into consideration a factor such as we are discussing now. Perhaps in her mind, she may be thinking that everybody will see her with you and if things don't work out between you then she has to go through it with another guy and perhaps another etc. I think, in such a scenario, we can all imagine what people in her city will be saying about her. Perhaps meeting in Odessa may be considered the 'softly softly' approach. Perhaps she wants to see that you are serious, suitable and compatable before considering you a serious boyfriend with whom she will subsequently have no objection of being seen in public with. It is often said to look for the lady in the small rather than the large city and whilst one can't generalize regarding different mentalities perhaps here you are seeing a small town mentality. As mentioned earlier, my lady is also from a small city and I am noticing a different mentality. This could be because she is 100% sincere but it could also reflect the small town thing also. Only yesterday I asked her what her father drank because I wanted to bring with me a small gift for each of her parents. She told me this was superfluous and I subsequently had to politely insist she tell me what her father drinks. Unlike the previous big city lady, she was only too willing to tell me precisely what chocolates her mother liked and what perfume she liked.! 01-18-2004, 11:51 AM MartinUK Members Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 746 I mean your the great experienced one. It took you over seven years to change your mind about meeting a woman in her home town. What hypocricy. You're a trouble maker and helped Cornwall to a disaster because you really don't have a clue what your talking about. You talk to much and act to little. Theres more than this poor advice you've given out to people. Gee I'm going to have to look up and see that 740GLE limo. ben2006 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/25/2008 2:22:40 PM   Guys don't you have something more interesting to do? Try collecting stamps or something, anything has to be a more productive use of ones time than this. Kirkland Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/25/2008 6:24:16 PM   There's a saying that goes "you don't need to explain yourself to your friends, and your enemies wouldn't believe you anyway". nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/25/2008 8:15:56 PM   The Cornwall post shows your ultimate hypocricy and putting your nose in the wrong place and not knowing a thing about a situation. . Nice spin on the december trip. It doesn't fly. Also you hypocricy with RWG where you posted you were using their advice for agencys, then when you find out, or they outed you as an idiot your Anti American campaign began. I love your twisting like the lying little worm that you are. Gee I must have missed something. What happened at Betts Aviation? Did you get your ass canned for being on the computer to much? Land of oz Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/25/2008 8:54:15 PM   Copying and pasting the same post in several different threads hardly seems a tactical defense. That just irritates everyone. I am afraid in the military that would cause death by friendly fire. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/25/2008 10:44:36 PM   Kirkland, I have to say that yours is a very much appropriate post :) Land of oz, 'friendly fire'? Would you be American by any chance? As per his PM to me (of below)he declared to me, on 02 March, that he was going to continue until he proved me a liar and yet all we have is his 'tiny minded' speculation, if he's got the proof that I am aged 56 (ish), that I never split from my girlfiend, now wife, and was merely having an affair(s) on the side (and my wife can read this by the way) then let us see the PROOF? He can't provide the proof because there isn't any, all he is is one sad individual with a massive chip on his shoulder and I'm actually quite enjoying disproving his one lie after another after another (I would continue saying 'after another' but there is a limit to the number of characters in one post, far from sufficient characters to cover the cr@p that he has uttered over the past 3 years) :) nasfan6 Martin_FFC 02.03.2008 20:17:25 I will continue to prove you are the liar that you are until you admit the truth. Scotty123 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/26/2008 9:31:22 AM   I'm Back,, I see that Love is in the air here.. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 3/29/2008 10:27:46 AM   Ah, I think I'm understanding the [censored] now, I do get confused because as soon as I prove him a liar on one point he swiftly brushes over it and moves on to the next and this 'next' is a new allegation after some 3 years of all other allegations against me. So what, I believe, he is alleging is that I had not split-up with my, then ex, now wife, and I was having a bit of 'fun' on the side, how could he possibly KNOW that? Well ex & wife is from Zaporozhye (local airports Zaporozhye or Dnepropetrovsk) so, if I had not split up from her, and we had not met during December 2004 merely as friends, then why on hell's earth would my next trip, after December 2004, have been during April 2005 and to visit a lady in Nikolaev? And to prove this, and to prove him, yet again, a liar if some would care to view http://www.geocities.com/martinpcoleman/ and click on 'tickets April 2005' it would be established that on 23/04/2005 I flew LON-BUD-ODS, to subsequently take a taxi to Nikolaev, and then on 01/05/2005 I flew DNK-KBP-ODS-BUD-LON. During the interim I had 'legged it' from the lady in Nikolaev to be by, then, ex's hospital bedside having taken a taxi from Nikolaev to Zaporozhye, this is further supported by these previous posts: Martin_UK Member Send: 13.09.2006 19:34:03 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- P.S. I only stayed in Nikolaev about 4 days before I 'legged it' across country in a taxi to Zaporozhye to be by the hospital bedside of my then ex girlfriend, now my wife, who was quite seriously ill at the time. As Ukrainian cities go Nikolaev is quite 'cool', lots of cafes or similar in the centre and it's quite 'square' thus not too far to walk or travel to the next place, there was one restaurant, probably a few more also, where the hookers sit inside the front entrance of the restaurant but I quite liked the bowling alley, you can eat and drink and have an evening's entertainment all in the same place. Martin_UK Member Send: 26.10.2006 7:16:07 boredfukka, In 2 days time I shall be returning to Ukraine for the 12th time, as long as you are with a Ukrainian national, a friend, then there is no problem whatsoever. 2.5 years ago I travelled by taxi Odessa to Zaporozhye and return, prebooked it via the internet, and no problem whatsoever and 1.5 years ago I travelled by taxi, one I called locally, from Nikolaev to Zaporozhye and again with no problem whatsoever. Martin_UK Member Send: 10.05.2006 19:52:30 Thor, You'll probably find the train goes via Kiev or a change at another city halfway across Ukraine and it could take you 24-36 hours for what should be a quick 300km. This time last year I travelled by taxi, just one off the street, from Nikolaev to Zaporozhye for approx 100 Euros, fuel prices have gone up since then but it gives a good ballpark figure. I THINK THAT 3-NIL TO ME NOW :) Russian brides > Main Forum > "Todays' Featured Russian Girls"
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