This is correct Maxirat. But I beleive the limit that you can bring in is $10,000. Unless you have someone you know picking you up and you know where and who your staying with and trust, I wouldn't want to take the risk just to avoid paying a few dollars in bank fees. I would take a few thousand dollars and have funds on a number of cards (just in case I have a problem with one or two).
The limit an ATM machine can pay out in one hit varies. Often its low like you say but I found one in Moldova with a 7000 lei ($700) limit and I could take out the full amount. Lucky for me my bank has not limit, I can take out as much as i want so long as the funds are there but i have to make multiple withdrawls.
Seriously - I thought dummy3777 was giving some good advice on things that haven't come up lately in this forum. Such as, trying to fit in, wearing the right clothes and shoes (I have two pairs of the pointy typical shoes you wear over there and ALWAYS dress o fit in. Consequently on nearly every trip I am asked for directions to someplace by a guy holding a map at least once.)
I also liked his advice on neer being the LAST (and I might add never be the first) through customs.
The advice to a real immature and uninformed newby (nooby) as nooga is turning out to be was quite good. And then he started with the personal attacks on me. H e should go back to finding gorged women from "the" Ukraine and watching them fish.
This is what I was told in customs by lady offical, I can carry in up to $3000USD cash and $200USD value gifts without declaring in customs. Any amount higher will have to be declared and taxes paid on spot...what that will be is anyones guess.
I always hear advice to to ignore amounts and just walk through...no problem....unless you are that unfortunate one that gets asked and/or checked, I HAVE seen people arbitrarily asked to have luggage checked.
I usually stop to talk to official standing on way through customs and tell her what I have...usually because my gifts are a plenty...I tell her what I have and give her a value amount well below $200....I figure other officials see this and think I am honest in my dealing.
sorry for being stupid here. should i take usd or euros with me or just use my bank debit visa card when i am there? i'll be there (kyiv) on friday! cheers... /pete
That’s correct about the 3K and under, you don’t need to declare. I took in 5K last time - declared 3K and luckily had put the other 2K inside my jacket top pocket, would have needed a good frisking to locate it.
I had declared the 3K and the chap asked to see it, so lucky I hadn't left as 5K. I showed it and he nodded his head on was on my way.
That’s why they ask to view the $$ - its more about protection/proof if departing with $$$.
peteb
4got to say - try and take new or very tidy clean notes. You could have some problems changing into grv if not clean notes but you lady should be able to work around that problem. Don't change at Airport - always the worst rate there. Your lady will know the best places.
Fur and diamond sellers seem to spring to mind :-)))))
Maxirat....they are very strict about notes being crisp & clean, any torn or worn or deep creases will not be accepted. They will actually look at each note individually and give you back ones they will not accept....... still good at home thou
I have never been asked about how of much my country's money I am taking home.....only what notes I am taking from country visiting. Even if you declare 0 money taken into country, you can still leave country with $3000USD since you didn't have to declare it. That is what you meant, right?
Yes - had a major problem in Kharkiv back in 03. My$100US notes had a clip (like a ticket gets clipped - little hole punched in them) Half of what I had, had these bloody holes clipped in them, I didn't even notice them, they looked brand spanking new to me. Dam Kharkiv Hotel staff did though. Created a real problem for my trip. Had to cash some in at – what I think was 15% deduction on them. Silly tourist conned AGAIN !!!!
Re the $$$ in and out of Ukraine, Lena – my wife says she has been asked how much she is leaving Kiev with by custom staff, but I like you, never have been asked.
I was asked once. I had left my money for my girlfriend now wife except for 5 euro for something to eat on transit in Budapest. The girl who asked me didn't believe I only had 5 euro so I was taken away to a small room where a guy went through my stuff. Actually he was nice about it. In Moldova there are signs around saying if you have any problems with airport staff call this number. I went back and the girl asked how can you only have 5 euro, what will do when you get off the plane. I said I have credit cards.
I always get clean notes but was caught out in the early days. When I get money exchanged in the UK I check each note myself, I return marked notes and get them to replace them with clean ones. The staff think I'm nuts and ask where I'm going. It sucks being in the separatist part of Moldova where there are no ATM machine and they refuse to exchange your money. But yeah for a 15% reduction the note is fine!
and once we changed $50 and the next day the lady wanted to re exchange it as she later found a small rip. My wife did the re-exchange. That’s a downside to exchanging money in a small city unofficially in a back alley. I told my wife to use a proper money exchange place in the future but she likes dealing with people and knows the silly old bat working as a rouge trader. Give me an ATM machine anyday.
My ex-fiance in Moldova knows of a guy who makes a very nice living buying slightly imperfect dollars and other currencies from businesses that have accepted them. Of course he buys them at a discount - and then flies to New York where he turns them in at full value. Evidently thats all he does. He has wonderful homes in both Moldova and the US and is considered rich by any standards.
Obviously if buisinesses in Moldova were able, themselves, to get full value for imperfect bills of various currencies, this guy would have no business.
On my first trip to Ukraine in 2003, I had been advised to bring most money in the form of $20 bills. Which I did. At that time, the US had just changed the design of the $20 and all the banks were offering the new style. I thought about it, and made a special request to get a lot of very new looking bills in the OLDER style, figuring that some Uktrainians might not be familiar with the new style yet.
It was quite funny to see other American guys at those small kiosks, BEGGING to exchange their nice fresh new style $20 bills. The money changers would have none of them. Not at a discount - not at all. Only the banks accepted them.
Danny, seriously... have a go at yourself. Firstly, you tell me to 'go to ukraine', in the same paragraph you're telling me how easy it is to be kicked in the teeth. Having a bit of trouble grasping your arguement. Are you telling me to go or scaring me to keep away?
thank you, Jet and Martin.
There is now only 7 days until deciding.
I really want to go, but some people are scaring me.
What I want is for those of you who have been there to give me your phone numbers, so I can contact you and talk one-on-one with each of you and make my decision after then.
I imagine it to be hard, but just how hard?
Is it even worth going?
I am not going over there 'to sex'. That can be done here. I want to see these females in action, see how ukraine is. Very excited to see what 2 20 year old Australian kids would get up to, and the reception they would get in Ukraine.
nooga,
Talking 'straight'with you and from the 'know it all' attitude you have demonstrated here previously then you should be scared.
However, if you plan to travel there as a 'regular' guy, don't misbehave or get mouthy, particularly if intoxicated, and just plan to have a nice time, hopefully meet a young lady or two whilst not trying it on with them unless ínvited' to do so, then you'll be OK.
I've been to Ukraine some 13 times, others here have been there a number of times also, and we're all still here to talk about it.
Nooga, you will be fine, you're not going to Iraq. Just read the suggestions here, its not that bad or difficult. Once you get to your hostel or appartment people there will help you if you need help.
ben2006 makes a good point about AIDS. 1.4% of Ukrainians have it. Obviously that percentage will be HIGHER (MUCH higher) among sexually active people and/or drug intravenous drug users.
Ukraine is the ONLY European country in the top 50 - as far as percentage of the population WITH AIDS.