Huh!,You all know me and what I think of romance socials...glorified,overpriced speed dating with no future and a "lotto" like chance of finding/establishing a real relationship with a fsu women...why would you spend thousands of dollars on a romance tour package to go to these swarays..its a waste of time and money..men who go to them never find a wife..the fsu women who go to them go only for a free feed and drink and for the novelty curiosity aspect of meeting western guys for a chat but they are not there to find a husband and some are there to practise the world's oldest profession...prostitution!
What a waste of time...men who use this form of meeting are pathetic and desperate and too stupid to know better...yes I would blow the idea of romance socials out of the sky with a rapid firing 20mm twin cannons like they use on the Apache helicopter.
You know as little about Romance Socials as you do about Ukranian women, Ukrain or anything els ethis forum is all about.
It is the furthest thing from SPEED DATING!! It is no closer to speed dating than meeting a girl downtown at any meeting place would be. The only thing similar is that there are a lot of girls - that's it. If that is speed dating then every trip to an airport or a restaurant you ever take is speed dating.
You meet the girls IN PERSON! (IS that so scarey for you?) You go out with some if you want - you go out with one if you want - some guys didn't go out with ANY! They were losers. (Pretty much as I guess you would be so maybe this ISN'T for you.)
It amazes me that fools like aussieman and dumdum danny are experts on everything they've never done. maybe the real explanation for danny's lack of intelligence was that he EXPERTLY performed brain surgery on himslef - and sewed up his head leaving his brain out.
The girls DON'T WANT A TCICKET OUT OF THE COUNTRY! No more than dumdum danny or aussieman who is scared to death to leave Australia. And if the idea of FREE FOOD SCARES YOU - then you are just too fricken cheap to be doing this.
Danny would begrudge a lady a glass of champaign but got suckered into a SCAM that he had to chase the woman down for. Who is the idiot here (answer: dumdum danny).
Danny has already admitted he is going to give his NEW LADY irina EVERYTHING. Can someone say SCAM BOY IS ABOUT TO BE SCAMMED AGAIN!!!!
New davice for you danny - when THIS relationship falls apart (and you know it will) and you meet your next lady. Just introduce yourself - pull out your wallet and give her all of your cash and credit cards. You can save time this way. Because you KNOW she's going to get it all anyway. Why drag it out?
But Romance Socials are going out of fashion anyway, they are to be relpaced by even more expensive trips whereas one flies to an airport that is nowhere near the destination city, then a guide shall guide him from the airport for all 3 hours by car to the destination city, once there he shall stay in a crappy apartment overlooking a crappy city, the next day he must attend a class of how to greet and take a lady for dinner whilst being taught how to make a crappy gift from crappy materials and then he gets introduced, one by one, to 10 carefully selected professional daters. It's really 'gunna' take off.
I neglected to mention the cost of the 'crap upon crappy trip':
Crappy apartment overlooking a crappy city, 10 nights at $150 per night.
2 totally unneccessary (3 hour trip) airport transfers at $250 each.
10 professional dater fees at $100 per lady per day.
10 days, perhaps unneccessary, interpreter fees at $100 per day.
How to make a crappy gift of crappy materials at $200.
Total cost $4,200 excluding air fares, visa and registration costs, taxi's, food & beverages, wining & dining, gifts for ladies (fridge/freezers excluded) and anything else except getting from a far off airport (when the city in question has it's own airport), a crappy apartment and 10 escort ladies with their managers, sorry I mean their interpreters, in tow.
Seriously - it is a little hard these days to find a well run Romance Social in that things HAVE bottomed out a little.
Very beautiful, wonderful women get a little tired of going to the things and getting snubbed, in favor of the youngest and prettiest women who seem to get most of the attention. There ARE certainly some loser guys who attend (certainly not as low as danny but still very low). First went to Odessa in 2003, then to Donetsk in 2007. In Odessa there were 15 guys. In Donesk there were 18. Absolutely different Romance Tour companies (first company had gone out of business in 4 years). Yet amazingly ONE of the 18 guys in Donetsk - I ALSO happened to meet at Odessa in 2003 (what are the odds?). Seems he had attended some FIFTEEN Romance Socials during the interim - so obviously HE wasn't very serious.
Must say though that there were more NORMAL guys in Odessa in 2003 than in Donetsk in 2007. Quality of the guys had gone down (again though still much above danny) and consequently the quality of the girls. BUT there were still some WONDERFUL girls. And I met the best of the best of the best.
I had incredible success in BOTH instances. Most guys in Odessa werer also successful, Guys in Donetsk, in general, less so.
"how to make a gorgouse gift from recycled materials "
Yeah the FSU really like that recycled stuff.
danny's dating tip of the week for this week......
After collecting your baggage at the airport and going through customs - look for the nearest trash receptical. Find a bag and fill any available space in your luggage, with as much trash from that receptical as you can carry. Put a bow on it (or glue a bottle cap, whatever) so it looks "gorgouse" and give scoops of it to any girls you happene to meet. Women of irina's quality will LOVE it. They will attach it to the walls inside their houses - and you will be on your way to meeting a girl in the "danny way"!
Talking seriously jetmba,
You know, from the past, my views regarding romance socials, so I/we are not going down that road again, however I admit that I have never attended one, simply because they are not 'my cup of tea', thus I have no idea of the type of characters they may attract.
But all over this 'FSU dating malarky' has become too commercialised with individual companies 'ripping off' and a suggested introduction to 10 'closeted' ladies, with accommodation included, for a fee of $4,200 just falls in line with how this 'malarky' has been dragged in to the gutter.
But, and as you may know my wife was an agency interpreter, I ran it past her one day if she would have ever attended a 'romance social' and her answer was a most definite 'NO' thus a certain 'type' of lady may be believed to attend, or not attend, such an event.
So, I have my own personal, perhaps naive, opinions of romance socials and anybody else that puts romance socials down, indeed slates them off, having never attended one needs to appreciate that these are only their personal, and perhaps naive, opinions also.
jetmba,
I'm about to throw away a digital TV receiver, a miniature oven with rotisserie and a fridge, do you think I could make a 'danny' out of these?
There were all types of women at the Romance Social. It was like a tiny slice of women in general of the FSU. There were GORGEOUS 18 year old women, just out for a good time and a chance to maybe eat out at a fancy restaurant. There were definitely a few hookers (hey, they exist anywhere). There were older professional women, (doctors, dentists, dentists) etc. who were a bit cynical but nevertheless THERE. There were single mothers who maybe DID want to get out of the country. There was a dress designer who just thought that maybe I had some business contacts who would buy her dress designs. There were sweet matronly types who just seemed to like any attention.
I seem to have a knack for picking out really incredible women at these functions and there were certainly AT LEAST a few of those. All I know was that I found two of them, some four years apart. And I am very happy.
Personally, if I were a woman, I WOULDN'T want to attend. I imagine it can be humiliating to attend as one of 200-250 each night (three nights) and there are only 15 or 18 guys TOTAL who might be intrested in you. The odds are just not in the lady's favor.
But I am a guy. And the odds were defintiely in my favor. And the ladies I met AND I were both quite happy with the results. The other ladies had to settle for the free food that upsets danny so much.
you forgot to mention that any excess from trash recepticals will be used to power taxi.... danny has installed 'flux capacitors' on his vehicles but can't leave airport until enough garbage is collected to get vehicle back to Chely even if it takes hours........
"There were GORGEOUS 18 year old women, just out for a good time and a chance to maybe eat out at a fancy restaurant. "
Should elaborate on this one.
One woman I met in Donetsk fit this category. She was BEYOND gorgeous - tall and runway model looking - quite possibly the most beautiful woman I have ever seen in person. I'm a regular guy - and trust me - if I met a woman like this anywhere else - it would have to be in New York, Paris or Milan - and certainly she would not even SPEAK to me much less acknowledge that I exist.
I mean - this girl was so beautiful she could take your breath away.
So just for the hell of it - I asked her out to dinner - and she graciously accepted. I certainly knew that things were never going to work out long-term between us - her being 18 and so gorgeous, me being ordinary and 49 - but I wanted to do it anyway. Had a wonderul time while it lasted.
I can now say that I dated the most gorgeous woman I have ever seen. (Few guys can make that claim).
The girl I ended up with is nearly as beautiful but much more down to earth and mature. The girl I spent MOST of my time with is certainly marriage material for me.
Martin makes a good post about the future of romance socials..to be replaced by expensive marriage agency guided tours with exorbitant prices to meet girls...anyone who pays for one of those must have more money than sense...I would not.
I don't think romance socials are the way to go to meet a FSU lady...it sounds so unconvincing on the fiance visa application "How I meet her, oh I did not know her from a bar of soap until I meet her at a cindy agency romance social and we spent a week together and decided to get married and apply for the visa"...she will never get the visa, theres insufficient evidence that a relationship been estasblished..its too shotgun to be believable!
For an Aussie, I think you will need two trips to the FSU for the same lady before you apply for a fiance visa ( prospective spouse sub-class 300 ) to make it beleivable enough for them to issue a visa or at least 2 to 3 months with her in one trip...save up your annual leave and long service leave fellow Aussies for this and get it right with the right lady..you will need to spend the time with her to get the proof of relationship needed OR impractical solution 2 ( but maybe possible ), find a Ukrainian or Russian club here in Oz, make sure there are family relatives here who have a nice unmarried female relative back in the old country that they can sponsor out to Australia on a tourist visa ( its the only way an FSU women would get one as her relatives have to underwrite her to satisfy the Government ), meet her and spend time with her in Australia, take pictures together, fall in love, get engaged here and have statutory testimony to that, let her go back home, then apply for a fiance visa for her to return to Oz and marry you..saves you a big airfare and ripoff trip to the Ukraine or Russia.
Some Aussies who have posted here, say a FSU women come to Australia herself on a tourist visa...yes its possible but only if a close family relative already living here sponsored her out for a visit and underwrite her..she did not get here under her own power unless she was in the elite rich upper class there...9 times out of 10 if an FSU women manages to come to Oz on a tourist visa, it was with sponsorship with a close family relative already living here as a permanent resident or citizen BUT the girls who come here won't tell you that..it does not sound good and they will lie and say they came here themselves and apply for the visa themselves..thats the truth of it, I meet a couple of Russian girls on a visit to Melbourne at Crown Casino early this year just after 07 Christmas, they got lost and wanted directions to the train station from there to get to one the outer Melbourne suburbs where they would have been staying at a relatives house..Crown casino is big and you can easily loose your bearings and get lost and I had a freindly chat to these 2 average girls, nice accents ( I think there accents are sexy ) and reasonable if not perfect english..I walked them to the right exit of the building ( it has many different facing exits ) to go to the train station and pointed it out, it was about a mile up the road.
Oh, it was not male chivalry..I would help anyone who got lost if I know the way where they want to go.
Jetmba you pick on poor Danny..how do you not meet women?..at romance socials?
I know that you are reading impared - but try to get the concept. I said this wouman was gorgeous ONLY. That means physically gorgeous - as one might see from the PICTURE of supermodel.
If you were able to READ my post you saw that the lady I ended up was better (because of personality) - but again danny (please get someone to read and explain this to you as it is in a very hard language - english) the woam I refer to was GORGEOUS.
I've SEEN photos of your lady danny. This woman I refer to was MUCH more attractive. SHe was even physically more beautiful than the lady THAT I HAVE (and SHE is better looking than YOURS).
Why is it that no other guy here has to have it explained to them what physical beauty is as opposed to personality? Gets very tiring trying explain things to an idiot danny. Is that why you never finished school? Did your teachers fianlly have enough and chase you from the building? I know I would have had I been your teacher.
danny and aussieman ought to marry and live on an island together.
aussieman is an expert on all he has never done. And danny doesn't understand the written word well enough to make it through a short paragraph. They would be perfect for each other.
"jetma .... go google the name sandra sully and then imagine her 18 and take off a couple off years "
She is an Australian TV Announcer. Big deal. Are you wanking while watch the news now danny? Or are you just beagging that you have been in the same room as her?
This girl I met was better looking than Sully would have been at 18.
I think the point being, it does not matter where you go or what you do, everyone is different, you will find some genuine, some out for your money etc, the place where i stay, i use it to my advantage, if you can suss out which is which, you have cracked it, i have no problem wining and dining a player all night for what £20? to end up having a night of passion, when really the player is being played herself, if they want me for more than my looks - so be it, so long as i know it. The one i am going back for seems completely different and i treat her likewise... she certainly looks special, but better than that is that she seems very genuine and has true intentions towards me. Life is an adventure, so once again proof that it holds all manner of people, you just have to be ahead of the game...
u did it good bigted glad it worked out for you and enjoy yourself! my bestfriend fell in love when he came over with me then on the second time he fell out of love!