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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Lugansk, Ukraine as "hotbead" of Scammers and/or Bad Intent Author Post Dale E Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/3/2004 1:30:40 AM   Charless- The chances of her getting a visa to see you are about as good as you hitting the lottery. You MUST visit her first and keep all documentation such as phone calls, postal letters, e-mails, Flight ticket stubs, and many pictures of you two together. THEN she can apply for a fiance visa (which can take up to 6 months or longer) to visit you in your country. When she does arrive, You have up to 90 days to marry her or she must go back. The above statements apply if you are from the U.S. and I think the same goes for the U.K. Olga Moderator send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/3/2004 4:55:37 AM   Charless,if lady didnt ask you for money and if she invited you to come and see her-I do not see any signs of possible scam here. Scammers would avoid personal meetings by all possible means. This lady asked you to come to her country. And that would eb the best solution for you to find out if she is real or how honest her interntions are. For now we do not have partner agencies in Lugansk.We have people who deliver flowers and gifts for us there, But if you want to check if she is real-use address verification services. Also, when men ask "the name of the agency she can go and join to be on fiance.com" they do not always understand that if a lady wants to become a member of a local agency -she will have to pay them. Only a few agencies would accept women membership for free. So if you want to check this lady-ask her direct address and phone number and then make an order for address verification at www.russianservice.com As for passport information in Lugansk-please send a request at admin@fiance.com and we'll contact people who can get us this information. TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/3/2004 5:27:49 AM   Charless: PUUULEEEEASE !!!! You need to not be so god damn lazy, and get off you ass and go to the lady !!! There are many threads in this forum about scams and how to avoid them, and not being a lazy b*stard is The one golden rule !!! And also people with the bright idea of bringing their girl to them first !! Its a no hope situation from the word go !! And any woman who would fly across the world to meet you (or any man) she has never met before would be off her head !!! Looking for Money and a better life only, or seriously stupid !! Stop thinking the world owes you something, and get yourself on a plane to meet this girl !!! You will Not get her to your country on a fiance visa until you can prove you have met her !!! "I know about the big scam in Nigeria where they want to share part of 20, 30 ,or 50 million dollars, if you fly there to sign the papers at the bank, people have been held for ransom, and killed" And yet having this information, you expect a young Russian girl to fly 13 to 15 hours, via Moscow, and possibly London too !!! To a country she doesn't know, to meet a man, who might Not be who He says he Is either !!! If you don't want to go to Russia, Ukraine or whereever to meet your girl first, then you are Never going to be successful in this quest !! What is it with people who think that everything should drop in their lap, without the need for them to make any effort, other than put their hand in their wallet !!!! And they wonder why they get scammed !! I dont wonder at all !! If you persist in following this route, be certain that there is a 99% chance you WILL be scammed. Go and see her and the worst its going to cost you is yout trip, and a week off work !! And then you Will Know if she is real, sincere and a good woman or not, for certain !!! Ptichka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/3/2004 5:41:17 AM   Charless I don't understand what is your point of vew at all, the girl asked you to come to meet with her, to know each other better then in letters, maybe she will introduce you to her parents and friends, it is a tradition here that girl's parents know about men she is dating or has in mind to date with. So what's the problem, if she would ask you "Oh I wish to come and see you, dear to see your country, but please send me the money for that", would you do that?? And then you would be complaining all about "Oh I was scammed". Don't you think that you could offend that girl with not deciding to come, she may think that you don't trust her, or play games, or just scared of her?? Isn't that a bad start for the relationship??? What do you think??? I live here in Lugansk, and I know good girls, real girls looking for their men, why they are looking for a foreigner it's another topic of discussion, but they are real. And the fact that Lugansk has a bad reputation, makes this search much more worse...though this city is preety nice:) TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/3/2004 6:00:29 AM   Good morning dear :o)) I agree with everything Ptichka has said (its damn hard no to ;o)) ) The very day after I arrived in Omck, Natash` took me to meet her parents and her sister, she wanted me to meet them and they wanted to meet me very much. Its good manners to let a womans parents know that their daughter will be safe in your hands, and asking her to come to you is Not the way to ensure that !! I wouldnt allow my 19 year old son to go across the world to meet a woman he had never met, let alone a daughter do the same if I had one !!!! Ptichka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/3/2004 6:03:31 AM   Good morning TimH to you as well:) It's nice to see you again:) Thank you for agreeing with me, it's just that I know that my parents were always interested in my boyfriend, and even my grandmother is always asking me when I call here "How are you together? when you wil come and we can talk with both of you?", so it's just a natural wish of the family to know the person. TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/3/2004 6:06:53 AM   Of course it is honey !! They love You, they want to know you are safe, and happy !!! If your boyfriend was in the USA and you wanted to fly to him (never having met him before) I am certain that your family would do everything possible to stop you going !!! TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/3/2004 6:07:45 AM   They would, Rightly, expect any good man to come to you first !!! Ptichka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/3/2004 6:17:37 AM   I'm not sure about that TimH, as I have never dated with a foreigner, so I prefer not to speak about the things I'm not sure of. :) TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/3/2004 6:30:54 AM   Well I personally would be inclined to think that your Mama for one would be out of her mind with worry ;o)) Anf your Papa too of course !! I certainly would be if you were my daughter !!! Ptichka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/3/2004 9:41:13 AM   My dad would worry a lot, and my mom she never worries much about me, she trusts me. And she treats me like a grown-up girl for a lot of years already, but dad thinks that I'm just a little girl in the age of the kinder-garten yet:) dma Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/3/2004 9:49:57 AM   Most women tend to be little girl to daddy, an equal and best friend to mum. TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/3/2004 10:34:11 AM   Indeed :o)) Dads just never want to let go of their Malinka princessa ;o))) crashnsplash Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/3/2004 1:57:49 PM   Yes this is true. My little princess may only be ready to turn 9 but I can tell you to watch her blossoming into such a pretty young lady is a little difficult. My little girl is growing up!! It will be very, very hard when I have to let go... TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/3/2004 2:06:28 PM   Just be sure your shotgun is oiled and clean, and that you have lots of buckshot stocked up on before she reaches 14 and you will be fine mate :o)) Ptichka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/3/2004 2:15:40 PM   Why to wait until she is 14, you have to be prepared when she is 11, just like my dad:))))) crashnsplash Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/3/2004 2:20:56 PM   boys are already afraid to come to my house. you can believe its not going to get any easier for them >=) dma Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/3/2004 2:28:35 PM   > 10 Simple Rules for Dating My Daughter > > Rule One > If you pull into my driveway and honk you'd better be delivering a package because you're sure not picking anything up. > > Rule Two > You do not touch my daughter in front of me. You may glance at her so long as you do not peer at anything below her neck. If you > cannot keep your eyes or hands off of my daughter's body, I will remove them. > > Rule Three > I am aware that it is considered fashionable for boys of your age to wear their trousers so loosely that they appear to be falling > off their hips. Please don't take this as an insult, but you and all of your friends are complete idiots. Still, I want to be fair > and open minded about this issue, so I propose to compromise: You may come to the door with your underwear showing and your pants > ten sizes too big, and I will not object. However, In order to ensure that your clothes do not, in fact, come off during the course > of your date with my daughter, I will take my electric nail gun and fasten your trousers securely in place to your waist. > > Rule Four > I'm sure that you've been told that in today's world, sex without utilizing a "barrier method" of some kind can kill you. Let me > elaborate: when it comes to sex with my daughter, I am the barrier, and I will kill you. > > Rule Five > In order for us to get to know each other, we should talk about sports, politics and other issues of the day. Please do not do this. > The only information I require from you is an indication of when you expect to have my daughter safely back at my house, and the > only word I need from you on this subject is "early." > > Rule Six > I have no doubt you are a popular fellow, with many opportunities to date other girls. This is fine with me as long as it is okay > with my daughter. Otherwise, once you have gone out with my little girl, you will continue to date no one but her until she is > finished with you. If you make her cry, I will make you cry. > > Rule Seven > As you stand in my front hallway, waiting for my daughter to appear, and more than an hour goes by, do no sigh and fidget. If you > want to be on time for the movie, you should not be dating. My daughter is putting on her makeup, a process that can take longer > than painting the Golden Gate Bridge. Instead of just standing there, why don't you do something useful, like changing the oil in my > car. > > Rule Eight > The following places are not an appropriate for a date with my daughter: Places where there are beds, sofas, or anything softer than > a wooden stool. Places where there are no parents, policemen, or nuns within eyesight. Places where there is darkness. Places where > there is dancing, holding hands, or happiness. Places where the ambient temperature is warm enough to induce my daughter to wear > shorts, tank tops, midriff T-shirts, or anything other than overalls, a sweater, and a goose down parka zipped up to her throat. > Movies with a strong romantic or sexual theme are to be avoided; movies which feature chainsaws are okay. Hockey games are okay. Old > folks homes are better. > > Rule Nine > Do no lie to me. I may appear to be a pot bellied, balding middle-aged, dim-witted has been. But on issues relating to my daughter, > I am the all-knowing, merciless god of your universe. If I ask you where you are going and with whom, you have but one chance to > tell me the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. I have a shotgun, a shovel, and five acres behind the house. Do not > trifle with me. > > Rule Ten > Be afraid. Be very afraid. It takes very little for me to mistake the sound of your car in the driveway for a chopper coming in over > a rice patty outside of Hanoi. When my Agent Orange starts acting up, the voices in my head frequently tell me to clean the guns as > I wait for you to bring my daughter home. As soon as you pull into the driveway, you should exit your car with both hands in plain > sight. Speak the perimeter password, announce that you have brought my daughter home safely and early. Then return to your car -- > there is no need for you to come inside. The camouflaged face at the window is mine. ensata Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/3/2004 3:00:39 PM   I can attest that these ten rules work. I have three virgin daughters 8 years old (of course) - 18 years old and 22 years old. They are jewels, nicer to boys/men then they ned to be, brillaint, motivated and with traditional values. I have 2 shotguns and a rifle, too many shovels to count, and 64 acres that I live on (how many unmarked graves back there? I'll never tell) I better include a lol. Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/3/2004 3:15:46 PM   Charless, a girl you apparently like invites you to her home, or at least her hometown. It is a city you have heard about, also bad news, and this stops you from going there - because you don't know and/or have not been there. Instead you do the coward-thing like zillions of others do - invite her over, seemingly gentleman-like behaviour, and you are (of course - who else?) prepared to pick up the tab. With doing this you expect her to dive in at the deep end, travel into the unknown to a guy who is a total stranger for her, operating on his own turf, a place she does not know and will be alone in - a woman! You're a spineless git Charless, like so many others who, when they know they have to go over get weak in the knees, and invite her then to come to them. If you think you get kidnapped or however else mistreated you are paranoid on top of all, and I strongly suggest you stop communicating with her. Because you're simply not worthy for any foreign woman, try the girl next door instead. Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Lugansk, Ukraine as "hotbead" of Scammers and/or Bad Intent
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