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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Yes...yet another advice thread! Going to Nikolaev. Author Post Beijoguy Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/21/2008 11:19:58 PM   Okay, I will retract the statement that "vast majority of the women on this site are complete BS". I have no actual proof of the 'majority'. However, I did make the statement "I do think there are many sincere ones out there". OLGA - I can show you many instances of insincerity from my experiences on Fiance.com. I can show you completely identical letters from 2 different women. One of them even forgot to change the name at the bottom of the letter to match her profile name! I can show you instances of women whom I have corresponded with in the past couple of months who have written me again as if it were the first time, or has sent me an invitation after we have been corresponding as if we had never met. These are all signs of insincerity, at least in my eyes. As far as the woman who bailed on me, I cannot find anything in what I wrote that suggested she was doing anything wrong. She did what she did for whatever her reasons may be. Que Sera Sera. I have no ill feeling towards her. I was simply relaying my experience with the situation to the people here who have been so kind in helping me. Secondly, I feel I have every right to ask if anybody else has had any experience with another member, and I do not think it is inappropriate at all. I have seen dozens of posts where men on this site have suspicions of a woman being a scammer, and have listed her name and ID. Lo and behold, many of them have also contacted me with the same letters that made the men suspicious in the first place. There is nothing wrong with doing a little 'background check'. To be honest, I have discussed my concerns with Juliya, and she understood and did not take offense. Heck, I would be flattered if a woman cared enough about me to ask around. It indicates to me a show of interest. I know that many men can be cads, so I wouldn't take offense either. I actually did call her today, and I am glad I did. Whether it works out or not, she is a very intelligent, perceptive and attractive woman. All I can do is hope for the best and pursue the situation :) LAND OF OZ - I understand what you are saying about not having luck here, so hopefully I will have better luck overseas. The fact is that I meet many women over here, but nobody has really struck my fancy. I am just basically widening my net. Really widening, actually! I agree with you that many men probably think that a few letters and a quick visit constitute a new wife. I don't want a subservient wife like a lot of those type of guys do; I want a woman who has got it "going" on inside her brian, as well as outside. As always, your opinion is appreciated. MONDELO & KIRKLAND - Thanks for your input and support :) Nadya Moderator send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/21/2008 11:46:38 PM   Beijoguy, Could you please email the identical letters you are referring to to admin@fiance.com (with the letter ID numbers). We will investigate and take the necessary measures to prevent this from occurring again. Much appreciate your assistance, Sincerely, Beijoguy Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/22/2008 12:24:42 AM   No problem. Done! GeminiDreams Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/22/2008 5:04:32 AM   The reason so many experienced guys suggest having backup plans is that so many women get cold feet or there is the reality of meeting is much different from the reality of letter writing. To be successful commit to going there for a meaningful period of time, weeks not days. Use letter writing as break the ice tool and having some background on the girl, not the basis for long term committment. Dont start the letter writing unil 4 - 6 weeks before travel. Let the girl know you are travelling there and if things dont turn out you will just have nice holiday. If you form a relationship you will go back or meet the girl somewhere else. MIKE00 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/22/2008 8:56:41 AM   GEMINI HAVE A READ ON THE awesome thread you'l get a giggle mate but how true is it ay lol lol mike00 colin Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/23/2008 12:02:56 PM   In the Ukraine myself in a week cant wait,the wife is finished her exams on the 27th and im there on the 31st my brother and his Hungarian partner are coming with me and will stay for 4 a few days and we are heading back to Budapest after for some sightseeing and then back home to Ireland. In the end I needed to get visa for her for Budapest which was pretty easy a cost of 35 euros and she needed health insurance and papers from her work. It took about 10 days in total. Im received a letter from her mother today wishing me the best and asking me to let her work and have her own independence it seems to be a big fear she also tryed to explain some things about her daughters character that she is strong willed and independent because the mother was a widow and while working the wife looked after herself and seeks to solve all on her own. It has been nice to have good relations with her mum and she has kept in contact with my mother and me, my mum is very good and simply told my wifes mother she will treat her like a daughter etc.I have a friend who runs one of those jumbo play areas with about 16 staff and he said she could have a few shifts to see how it works out. In another post someone talked about the charge of taxis by the girls when I first met my wife she paid for the taxi which met me and never asked for the money it was about 20 euros or roughly 140 ukranian. I have given her money from time to time but only later on and not large sums 50 euros can make a big difference to them over there. f900flyer Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/25/2008 8:38:20 PM   Hello all! I have followed with great interest this discussion. I have a girl in Nikolaev and have visited her several times. She speaks fluent english and studies to be a teacher, and has everytime organized my transfer from and to Odessa, as well a very nice appartment close to Sovetskay Street. Everytime she has picked me up and dropped in Odessa. I am very satisfied with our relation. She never asked for money or presents and is just happy when I visit her. The only thing I do not like, many times she has little time for me, and just sees me a few hours a day, or needs to be home early. I know her appartment, her University and her parents. Maybe I am poisoned by all this negative talks on the forum, but I have sometimes doubts about her sincerity, due to behaviour, which appeare strange to me. She explains that in Ukrain, they have other customs. Has any one of you had experience with a girl like that. Does the name Elena Kauymova rings a bell? Hope for some comments and advise of someone who has more experience and time spent in Nikolaev. Land of oz Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/25/2008 10:32:06 PM   I have not spent time in Nikolaev but going home at what is considered an early time in the west is not uncommon in the FSU. Also being late for meetings is to some degree normal. Looking at her profile and seeing she sometimes could dance all night would lead you to believe she would stay out late but she is young and emotional so you cannot always read that between the lines. If she knows English as well as she indicates I would be very careful about posting her complete name. If she googles herself to see what is being said about her she will come directly here in a few days after google picks up this thread and I assume if she reads your post she will recognize who you are. MIKE00 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/26/2008 6:47:59 AM   Yes they always appear to have little time for the ''white knight '' its an age old problem its frustrating ive had to live with this experience several times Where as upon arrival the man always seems to be last on the list of things to do for the day - My advice tell her hey ! ive come a long bloody way and an expensive trip to FSU nomatter which plane you catch or which country you live in - your not parting with $100's your parting with $1000's The rudest thing available to them is to put there horrid mundane jobs before quailty time with yourself --thats about as rude as it gets huh ! I went RIGHT OFF AT MY BIRD THE LAST STINT I LIVED IN RUSSIA AT HER PULLING THE SAME STUNTS , i nipped it in the bud very quickly with a diatribe of thus Listen dear i cant stay forever and if you do tomorrow what you did today - then i shall alight the plane and head back to aussie -reaching foR my bag ! well didnt things change instantly - she rang her job 45 seconds later told em me not be in for two week ok ! yes you really must put the foot down on the ignorance - they have no concept of cost to get there visa all the rooting around - they realy do think you live around the corner ! she carries on strange mate hey whilst she in the loo have a gander at her phone make sure she aint got a YURIY 2 BLOCKS AWAY ! SPEAKS TO HIM MUGGINS IS HEAR ME MUST ENTERTAIN ! I BE TO YOU TONIGHT . DONT BE CONPLACENT THEY DO DO IT ID SAY 4 OUT OF 10 HAVE A YURIY DOWN TOWN its not sping truly - call it enforcing your own well being --you'd not believe what some are capable off --and none of it when seen is good ! The only reason when iam in russia that i dont carry a .38 down the back of my duds is i dont want to get caught with it on me . If i knew i could roam russia un challenged carrying a gun - id have one down the belt in 10 seconds mate ! Its not so much the woman you have to worry about - its the slimmy blokes that they mix with --all bloody ''jesse james'' types although i think jesse had a lot more credibility that a desperate russian/ ukraine man ! Any man thinks a suspect tart wont set him up for a ''fall ''--- believes in the tooth fairy ! She speaks that good english hey id be real carefull your not the only man in the world she has even spoken too ! asks you nothing ? thats a good sign ? but my last two asked me nothing too for the first 3 months -then the big bite came -and you wont see it coming . If she thinks your a big fish -decent bankbook of course she'd rather plan for a big hit as opposed to small potatoes ! I dunno about google - would she bother ? would she pass over the 50 roubles sit there and check at cafe --i doubt it . contrary to belief you still have only 18% of russia in total with computor ownership and 6% of that is businesses so wickapedia claims ! you dont put up with the ohh run home to mum crap do you mate ! surely you live with her 24/7 ???? surely to god the other ways ( home to mum went out with straw hats ) id never entertain a bird that did not live with me from hour of 1 once you arrive huh . crazy if you do mate as your only giving her a window of opportunity to decieve . no no no no god sake you never let em out of your site --------i thought everybody knew that one mate ! big like wanting to drive your car with flat tyres ! you dont do that ! and you NEVER EVER BREAK THAT RULE of not living with em 24/7 my god ! i know at present several Aussies in FSU RIGHT NOW - none of them have tea or go to bed alone no way my sun Whats the point of being there if your alone ??? truly how can you make relations seeing each other 3 hours a day ???? No bollicks to that mate --! anybody puts up with that old game from cold war era needs a GP --needs one real bad . hey you can leave 5k in the bank and stay home alone ay ? what are you there for ? stay at home for free ! I surgest you have a stern wee talk explain to her ( the coutesies of life ) sounds like she owes you a few mans not a monk ? -- nor are you a three legged greyhound sits on a bar stool in a dark room on his own !!!! regards mike00 MIKE00 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/26/2008 7:17:25 AM   What Do Retired People Do All Day ? Working people frequently ask retired people what they do to make their days interesting. Well, for example, the other day my wife and I went into town and went into a shop. We were only in there for about 5 minutes. When we came out, there was a cop writing out a parking ticket. We went up to him and said, 'Come on man, how about giving a senior citizen a break ?' He ignored us and continued writing the ticket. I called him a Nazi turd. He glared at me and started writing another ticket for having worn tires. So my wife called him a sh**head. He finished the second ticket and put it on the windshield with the first. Then he started writing a third ticket. This went on for about 20 minutes. The more we abused him, the more tickets he wrote. Personally, we didn't care. We came into town by bus. We try to have a little fun each day now that we're retired. It's important at our age . GOOD ONE HUH MIKE00 f900flyer Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/4/2008 8:12:45 PM   Thank you guys! I will try my best and put your advise to work. Just today I had a quit and strong argument and we will see what comes out of it! No problem if she googels, it shows that I have my sincere intentions and do not put anymore up with lame excuses! Thank you and my best wishes beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/5/2008 2:25:53 AM   "I am very satisfied with our relation." "but I have sometimes doubts about her sincerity, due to behaviour, which appeare strange to me." Flyer......I am confused...apparently you are not satisfied. It does not sound like she is very interested in you if you have visited her several times. Only for your visits, I am sure you take her out to dinners, right? I had girls before that did this...it went now where. Remember, these girls have enough time to go on summer holidays every year, if she says she cannot find time to take some days off for you, then maybe you need to read the writing on the wall. You are going in a circle!!! f900flyer Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/7/2008 9:56:45 PM   I will try to read between the lines and look at her behaviour in the future. If no changes, you might be right, there are so many more, and it takes a little time, to get aquainted again. 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