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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Australia - Tourist Visa Author Post Quasimodo Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/4/2008 6:07:12 AM   wow jtemba, going down the memory lane…. I did not know that this was a single men bar????? Great to remember the good old days…… ))) just you, nasfan and martin.. playing billiard, shouting a beer or two (downunder expression) and making comment on those sexy chicks from FSU’s places….. ho well… make it a kind of “class reunion” all together again… maybe set up your own forum? PS Me and my wife started in this forum when we were single too…. So what point you are try to make here…. fail to see.. nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/4/2008 7:26:15 AM   Jet You may have touched on something. If I recall back then, the only two married guys posting were Steve(Gladiator) and Wtrav02. It was a wealth of information back then. Crashnsplash, DaleE,Dittus, Neonred,Skiired,TimH and a bunch of others that were posting back then found ladies from the FSU and got married and still are today. Like you said a bunch of like minded individuals seeking the same goal. Almost all were serious about their approach towards finding a lady. Though we did have a couple of guys who I thought in the beginning were decent guys until they let hypocricy take them over. One being an outright chauvanist whose list I still laugh about today. He had no chance of success after seeing his true side. If one member thought today was pack mentality, then it would have blown his mind then. Nonsense wasn't tolerated by the group in aggregate and idiots did get flamed on a regular basis. Sometimes I question myself why I post here. Then I think back how many guys contributed to my success. I also want new guys to be successful and how to distinguish what is reality and what is bullshit. We had a couple of weirdo's posting back then, but it was silly stuff and not the disruptive ignorant things that have happened especially in the last year or so. The group also supported each other in our endeavours. It was as you said before somewhat a fraternity. New guys didn't get flamed for asking newbie questions. Idiocy wasn't tolerated. Speaking of Neonred, Larissa and I had dinner with them Thursday night. He and Veta are in Louisville for a dental seminar and visiting his daughter who is attending UofL's dental school. They are exceptionally wonderful people, who I cherish their friendship. Veta and Larissa are close and communicate almost daily. Also along with Dittus' wife Valentina who is a wonderful lady and my wife is very close to her. It's part of a network we established and their friendships I think made the transition for the ladys much easier. We're having dinner with Neon and Veta tonight before the head back to Florida. We communicate with each other(the guys) about how our new lives are going. We all have had similar issues in our relationships with our wives. With the continued communication with each other and our insights has helped all concerned. The girls communicate about their likes and dislikes of America. About our cultural differences good and bad. I have to chuckle when I hear the words, "Vala says, or Veta says," things about the US. Everything will always be done better in Ukraine and Russia. Though recently I have seen a change in even that attitude.Though they are no means westernised by any standards. All three are pretty similar but distinctly different in certain areas. They have one common denominator as most women they love to shop. Though it isn't the norm until they get together. Neon and I were excluded from the shopping trip so we took a trip around Kentucky and talked about life. It was and still is a great crew. New guys need to participate more and not worry about getting flamed. Getting flamed by morons shouldn't bother you new guys. Though it is prudent to listen to some of the veterans. Even when it's critical and against your impulses, most of us have encountered what you are going through and avoided some serious mistakes and getting burned by unscrupulous women. Though I wish another Ptichka would show up. She gave great insights into the culture. Even when she corrected me about certain things I was going to do, it was done in a very polite and articulate manner that made comprehending the situation easier. So new guys reading, get involved, ask the questions even if they may seem silly at first. If you spend time reading the forum religiously, many of your questions will get answered before hand. With certain tweaking for each individual circumstance. What worked for me and others may not work for a certain individual. I took a piece from everybody. Sometimes I may seem harsh, but it's because I take this very seriously and don't want to see new guys get burned or in a worse way get hurt. I took my approach very seriously because of the cultural differences. I wanted to learn the little nuances that made this work for me. I don't get up each day and wonder who can I blitz on the forum today. Though I have little tolerance for stupidity and wrecklessness that is espoused here sometimes. With a little prudence and information gathering here, your trip and identifying a good woman will become easier. You'll be able to weed out the insincere ones and the ones hawking for an agency or the gold diggers and professional daters. I kind of like reading Beemers stuff. Though our approach was totally different he brings a lot of info to the table for new guys because of his diverse travels. However you choose to do this, you must establish a discipline for yourself and not deviate from it. Most of the guys who are successful do this. If something doesn't seem right it probably isn't. You have control over your own destiny even if the Agencys try to brainwash the girls they don't. It's your life, your money and your time. Using all three wisely you will find success!!! Dunromin Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/4/2008 8:31:30 AM   Nafan6: Worthy post. Quote: “these guys prevent the forum from being the helpful tool it once was”. One of the more interesting remarks I have read for a while and if it is true, then it is a pity. Jetmba, FYI, there is 5 major English language forums dedicated to this subject (Marriage to R/FSU Women) seriously active on the net right now and a host of minor ones, this one included. Your exact question / comment has been debated several times extensively and all too often it polarizes itself into the married vs the seekers without any real thought to the realities of what both groups have to offer. I’ll speak to the married case. Why do married men involve themselves in forums? Much as you described above, men enjoy to shoot the crap on subjects of common interest whether they are married of not. IMO, it is that simple. One very common misconception among the unmarried’s and I was no different way back when, is, once married, your lady is the only thing in your life. Very wrong and dangerous place to go. You were single and a complete person (Hopefully) with all your personal interests before you were married and that shouldn’t completely change. If you throw all of that away and become something else, then effectively you have sold your lady down the drain by not being the person she met. You raise the point of seeking / giving advice about logistical things such as air tickets as an example of matters of common interest to the unmarried’s or finding apartments etc. All true and what you will come to understand if or when you do find / marry the lady for your life is this. ALL OF THAT remains exactly the same and in fact becomes MORE demanding than ever. You will have MORE trips to the FSU once married than before, you find MORE apartments to stay in than when you were single, therefore, if you single guys want to tap into it, there would be a wealth of cost and time saving information out there among the married guys for the taking. At another juncture, as an unmarried (To an FSU woman) one simply has no clue as to how much they don’t know. That is not pointing at anyone in particular but everyone in general including myself. It, in many ways, is so vastly different to any other type of marriage that until one has experienced it, it is almost beyond explanation. People can say what they like, RW are different, very different, IMO, in the most wonderful ways, but nevertheless, different. The demands on a marriage are completely different to a domestic marriage, particularly in the first 1-3 years. The singles are welcome to go into that blind as they choose, but I can assure you, I went searching for ANYTHING I could find when I contemplated this marriage. At that time, there was NOTHING substantial to be found in the way of forums etc. I got lucky and found a couple of old hands who had been married to RW for a few years and I listened up to them for HOURS by telephone. I can assure you, some of what they told me angered me and I thought they were arrogant bastards. But listen I did and what I found over time was they knew their stuff and were absolutely spot on. When you get a RW in your home permanently things will happen that you just won’t ”get”. I don’t care how much time you spend with her or in her country (I’ve spent what amounts to years), you won’t fully “get them” until you live together as husband and wife in your country, then you probably won’t “get her” anyway. I can’t remember whether it was Oscar Wild or Einstein who said, women are for loving, not understanding. Nothing could be more true when it comes to RW. Married guys can offer insight during the single guy’s latter preparation stages before marriage that singles simply can’t. IMO, the singles reject or circumvent that opportunity at their peril. The costs of a failed international marriage at all levels are higher and as such, at least I did, it is logical to avail oneself of any information which may help to mitigate the risks. The next point so many singles forget is that we are married to RW (FSU if you like) and as such associate directly or indirectly with many more RW on a day to day basis than many single guys will in their entire search. I doubt most married guys are deaf or blind (Although being married to a RW can make you pretty deaf quite quickly). My wife for example is still relatively young at 26 and still has a wide circle of young single friends on the ground in several parts of the FSU. She talks with many of these by phone on a weekly basis if not more often, she has two sisters around her age. I get plenty of feedback from that source regarding real and realistic women on the ground right now. I am sure others do likewise. The reliable information flow out of the FSU into a Western / FSU married couple’s home is much greater and more unbiased / direct than one will find on any website, forum or almost anywhere else for that matter. Finally, I’ve noticed two forums gravitate to either married guys or unmarried guys and they are both very much the poorer for it. You may garner some support for a “Singles Only” forum, but I doubt it will amount to anything much. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/4/2008 9:47:11 AM   nasfan: When I started even wtrav (I don't think there was a "02" he added that later for some reason) was single. You might recall the questionable situation about the pictures he posted on the internet with himself and a Ukrainian lady. Glad wasn't married then yet either. Nice to hear about one of our success stories - NeonRed. A nicer guy - nobody could meet. It was great to see him and izi when my Modovan and I went to Florida. And he sent me a photo via email taken when he, izi and jet(something) called me on New Years Day. They were drinking beer and sitting around a table when I spoke to them all. I why I didn't have a beer and they popped one open for me. In the photo you can see the three guys, a phone set to speakerphone into which they are talking, and an unattended beer - which I understand was MINE. The forum was so much more useful then. Nobody stopping by just to crow and brag about how eductated their dinner guests are, or correct spelling. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/4/2008 9:48:10 AM   Ptichla was a Sweetheart. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/4/2008 9:48:46 AM   "Ptichka" nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/4/2008 10:04:48 AM   Jet That was Jetson in the pic. We spent New Years with them in the Keys Neon,Jetson and their wives.). Jetsons lady is from Moldova. I wasn't around when Wtrav posted the pictures the first time. He got his ass tarred and feathered good for that. It was nude photos of some escort if I recall correctly. When I came on board, both Glad and Wtravo2 were married and Gladdy was expecting a child then. To me no words can ever match what and how Ptichka helped me. We corresponded alot over the time. She was so modest about helping, but without her I wouldn't have understood the little nuances important I was hoping to meet her, but she was about month earlier in Yalta before we arrived. Maxirat Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/4/2008 11:55:37 PM   Hi Mike – Jetski - Pete & co Thought I would let you know – Lena’s daughter arrived into NZ 3 weeks ago. Stayed with us for 10 days and now in Wellington. Found a job in a matter of hours and been out on 2 dates already !!!!!!! Walking around Wellington for 3 days with her and her mother sure made me feel good. Looks and attention towards them both was continual. Sveta (daughter) is 20 and we got her in on a Residence Visa – so she landed into NZ as a "Resident" We had to apply stating she was a dependent child on us, surprisingly – the cut off age for the “dependent child” is 24. It took just on a year from application to her getting here. She wants to go to Uni next year. Peter NZ MIKE00 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/5/2008 12:42:00 AM   GOOD STUFF MATE EXCELLENT GOOD SHOW ! THEY'L ENJOY IT IAM SURE MIKE00 nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/7/2008 8:25:16 AM   Peter Good to hear from you. Glad all is going well. Same here as is well wife is doing good, we are heading back down to Florida to visit with some past forum members again. I would be a smart ass right now, but Mike00 has waived the white flag so I won't. For the naysayers, this is a totally do able. No problems For Peter and many others I communicate with. Quasi, you say provide a normal life, who's life. When you try to provide a normal life as your are accustomed to and living in a third world country you are going way over the top and setting yourself up for a fall. They know the life they live and when you make it topsy turvey with money, then you are setting the corruption in yourself. Sorry that doesn't pass the lithmus test. MIKE00 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/7/2008 9:06:59 AM   Nasfan if ole quazi is happy where he is--- doing whatever it is he does ( does it really matter to anybody in the world apart from him ??? ) Is it up to us to influence him in any way????? if he's happy ! actually in business over there he's doing quiet well - he's settled in fine hey the mans happy ! wish him well the old proverb applies ========== each to there own huh !! actually mate if you look at the stats on Aussies living in russia/ ukraine / latvia its just hit - 900 now ( it was 711 in july 2006 ) -these are not tourists --these are guys living there by choice there must be something working out for them huh ! 900 bodies can't all be wrong ! they must be doing something right!!!! and certainly when my contracts are finished il be running to the plane to become 901st living there , western world in living expences is just over the top --no advantage living usa/ pommy land / canada / aussie / new zed any more -its all ''pay bills till you die . to me --no thanks --the grass is greener on putins side of the fence ! mike00 nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/7/2008 10:28:38 PM   Mike all I can say is you cannot comprehend english period. Your response just proves it. Grass is greener on Putins side, Now I know you have little idea of what's going on. You see what happens to westerners, it will be the same as Georgians shipped in cattle cars and their ass and property all become the states. MIKE00 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/8/2008 3:33:16 AM   bollicks mate - the russians may be slow but they are not that stupid to harm ''joe aussie '' to much trade takes place betwixed aussie and ussr last september 8 billion dollar uranium deal 1 billion in wool etc etc etc etc ( dont you read the papers ! ) sorry i feel a totally protected race over there. mate they'd not dare harm joe --aussie --he;s protected species ! sure they harrass the yanks but you beat em in the cold war huh ! lol lol. yes i have seen what happens to westerners there ! seen it bad too seen 2 tourists killed in car smash 7 ks outu st peters seen the way the militia treated the bodies --BUT THE ACCIDENT WAS AN ACCIDENT - it was not intentional . just an accident ! the occupants both kiwi's !! both very dead . no sorry ole man aussie is pretty safe in most respects there - iam talking from militia govvy point of view ! nobody but nobody ( of authority ) is going to give an aussie a hard time intentionaly in ussr. PUTIN BE MAD TO SHIT IN HIS OWN NEST ! IT JUST WOULD NOT WASH AT THE EMBASSY WOULD IT !! MIKE00 ps GEORGIA IVE BEEN 3 TIMES iam brave enough to walk in the street now there if had too ! iam an aussie = untouchable. pss remember your dealing with a ''sub culture '' that can barely count to ten ! id blow em a kiss lolo lol lol .. nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/8/2008 9:00:40 AM   You're also an idiot who knows absolutely nothing.8 bill is a drop in the bucket. Nothing to protect you. You slam the Seppos, dildo, but not one yank that has been on this board has been fleeced out of 35k. You're a ratbag that pays for pussy, so don't slam the girls who go to Turker. Hey Mike I hear Dubai is the place the Ukies go to Hustle men from Oz. Have any input on that idiot? godzilla29 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/28/2008 3:18:20 AM   i was in tomsk last week and my russian friend there said she had russian friends who got a visa to Australia, by first going to Thailand, then getting the visa to Australia from the Thai government. I'm trying to confirm if this is possible - perhaps there is a loophole there. nobodyknows Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/28/2008 11:10:03 AM   I think that its possible to get a torist visa to NZ if one has a pretty good income and is over 35 and has 1-2 kids))))) i m 25, have no kids, and earn not much but enough to make my dreams come true and i was denied a visa to NZ a week ago:) i do believe one may obtain it only if he/she is sponsored by someone earnign lots of money, or apply for a visa based on a partnership. i applied for a tourist visa to NZ, not a limited purpose one, though i mentioned in an aditional application that i wont mind to get it, but was not offered it))) but i decided to pay the embassy a visit next year again))) GeminiDreams Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/28/2008 1:17:18 PM   The Thai government does not issue visas to Australia. Only Australia issues Australian visas. All citizens of FSU countries must sumit visa application to Moscow. Read the Australian embassy in Russia website. It is not that difficult to do. It wont happen if you the clear instructions they specify. I will be doing one soon I will give feedback as to how it goes. Adman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/28/2008 5:17:33 PM   Hi nbk I tried last year to sponsor a tourist visa for a woman in a similar situation to you. It also failed, so you are in good company :)) The good thing is, being denied does not seem to affect the chances of you being successful next time. They say everyone fails the first attempt:) Your right about having lots of money helping. If you can afford the mandatory $5000 for a lawyer, I have never known it not to fail. Adman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/28/2008 5:29:53 PM   Correction Never known a lawyer in NZ to fail in getting a visa. nobodyknows Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 11/29/2008 2:29:08 AM   I would have paid 5000 USD for a bond (to guarantee that i ll return home and pick this moey up) but not for a lawyer)) i dont know what he can do for me beter than i can muself. if i start smth i think of every detail! teh ame was with the embassy. I could have appealed but i had no more proves of my genuine intentions))) i provided them with all i could) and i was not sponsored Adman. maybe next time i ll think of asking my rather rich friend in Moscow to help me, but its in case of emerency-i never ask anyone for help)) but yes next time i m sure i ll be successful! they will have to give me avisa or i ll come to them again in years))))) until i m denied it for 6 years ,e.g. (Shnegen countries can deny an entry for 6 yeaas and 10).so maybe NZ has thesame rules))) Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Australia - Tourist Visa
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