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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Check out what this Hotel says about picking up Odessa girls. Author Post Kirkland Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/27/2008 5:19:34 PM   Texasdude; you say you pressed some about leaving home, family etc and they say they never considered it seriously???? I'd question their reasons for communicating with any foreign man then. When a women is serious about leaving; one of the first things on the agenda is the subject of coming to live in my country....it's a future possibility so they want know what it could be like. That tells me they have thought seriously about what they are doing and not just in it for the kudos of having a foreign boyfriend. If you want another take on this whole subject; stick your profile on Rambler and see how many contacts you get. And if you get the chance ;read the diaries (blogs) of Russian women discussing this same subject. You'll get Russian pov from ordinary Russian women not the 25 year old hotties who grace the sites that you visit who as far as I'm concerned are "up to something" Dunromin Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/27/2008 5:26:15 PM   Jetmba: If you interpret that to mean ALL, then I understand why you continually fail. Your comprehension skills are very limited. Now I understand why you tossed the hissy fit you did. Let me explain it another way.........It is a social right? If you are in the same room with a paid attendee, you have kept the company of a paid attendee, whether closely or distantly. Now let’s clarify another point you don't understand. Hanging warm noodles actually means "Hanging warm things on my ears" or explained another way, saying things you think I want to hear, or put more plainly, blowing sunshine up someone’s bum, which is what you seem to want everyone to do. Well guess what junior, it isn’t happening here. By your own admission, you are 50+, not exactly in good shape, have been chasing this pursuit for who knows how long, advise other guys not to be concerned if she is only 20 or so, not to think of how it will be in 20 years time (Logical for you because you'll probably be pushing up daisies by then), you can't get a decent date at home, you have BOTH relationships on the go, etc ................. Socials are your chosen method of snagging a date. Then, in another post you have the gall to condemn someone else for muddying the waters for other western men. Dude the likes of you are exactly what disgust the really decent women over there. The more I think about it with the morals you display here the more I think the word "Scum" fits the bill. With every post you demonstrate your morality as being lower and lower. I've long thought the biggest scam in this business is that rubbish like you have been given passports. "BOTH of my relationships with FSU women are still going strong". You buddy, are a liar or a disgrace. Either way, Scum is looking pretty accurate. The most amusing part is your original contention that many FSU women do want to leave and as yet you have failed to substantiate that in any way because you can’t even find ONE you can convince to leave. Maybe you simply can’t afford it and one thing is for sure, FSU girls don’t want to leave for a life in a trailer park. "BOTH of my relationships with FSU women are still going strong". It’s rubbish like you that gave the IMBRA bill legs, but I guess that is way outside your comprehension. Anyway, I guess if the readers here wish to follow “Low life, two timing” thinking, you’re their man. I find it rather degrading actually. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/28/2008 3:18:17 AM   done-ramen: "Your comprehension skills are very limited. " My comprehension skills are excellent. Just like your weaseling skills are. Clearly you are of the Clinton school of defining what "is" is - but it doesn't cut it here. Nobody (except you) hear is a moron. And you did kept company with girls at a Social I was spending time with someone being PAID. "It is a social right? If you are in the same room with a paid attendee, you have kept the company of a paid attendee, whether closely or distantly." Another weasel comment. "Keeping time with" means "closely interacting with". It doesn't literally mean spending time in the same room. If it MEANT that - than anytime that you have ever been to a bar or a restaurant and a paid escort has also been there, whether or not you were even aware of that other persons presence - you "kept time with" that person. In that case I dare say you have "kept time with" hookers everytime you have visited a fancy eating establishment. But given your preoccupation with hookers (retired and "back street") I would guess that your experience goes much furhter than that. What did you say your Russian wife did for a living? Besides all of this, your argument presupposes that there were at least some hookers in attendance at a typical Romance Social and that has not been established at all. It is only a typical claim that you have made speaking out of your rectum. As I have said several times in slightly different words: Your arrogance knows no bounds, nor does your ignorance. I have been perfectly honest with my ladies - a concept that you, no doubt, have no knowledge of since you cannot even be honest with readers of this forum who can SEE what you wrote (and now are tring to weasle out of). Your comments about scum and trailer parks, I'm sure are based on your own personal background - but foreign to me so I won't dignify them with further comment. dunromin: you are an ass and an idiot and vey littel of you could BE degraded as I am sure that you are already the lowest grade exisiting. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/28/2008 3:35:34 AM   "Now let’s clarify another point you don't understand. Hanging warm noodles actually means "Hanging warm things on my ears" or explained another way, saying things you think I want to hear, or put more plainly, blowing sunshine up someone’s bum, which is what you seem to want everyone to do. Well guess what junior, it isn’t happening here." Excuse me other fourm members but WHAT A FRICKEN MORON THIS GUY IS! (Thank you.) It means don't hand my bullshit - which is the only thing you truly seem adept at doing. You'll find it in Bartlett's Familiar Quotations and I've been told about the same expression by several native Russian speakers. In this, as in everything else you say in this forum - you are an imbecile. "Íå âåøàé ìíå ëàïøó íà óøè" Dunromin Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/28/2008 5:09:21 AM   Jetmba: More of your multiple temper tantrum responses. You’re a typical piece of scum who obviously can’t cut the mustard with any level of decency. You can’t handle someone disagreeing with you which is the first acid test to see if you can survive with a Russian woman. Not that you’ll need to worry, you’ll never find one low enough to bother sticking it out with you. You were engaged for 3 years was it? Wow, do indulge me to bow in thy presence for your longevity achievements LOL, in your words, you are too successful, you’re breaking me up, our oldest son starts school next year………………………………add some numbers for yourself if you have enough fingers and toes to count on. Do continue with your name calling if you feel the need, pathetic would be an adequate description of your oratory skills as demonstrated here thus far. Quoting Russian speakers, I have quite a well educated Russian reference who speaks four languages fluently sitting right beside me. Something you have FAILED to achieve in all your socials and trips. BTW, two of our Ukrainian friends, both University lecturers, one with 3 degrees and the other with 2, will share a pleasant dinner with us this evening, this is where we set our levels, whilst yours is LOL, socials? Invariably the discussion of western scum that visits Ukraine arises somewhere, so take heart, you’ll get a mention in dispatch. Another point, you might learn to spell if you wish to gain any credibility. The only thing you have clarified thus far is you don't know enough to know how much you don’t know and you have no chance of ever getting within yards of a decent women. Carry on failing. You are succeeding in the first degree thus far. Quote: "You'll find it in Bartlett's Familiar Quotations". LOL, I prefer reference from Moscow State University and other similar credible sources but thanks anyway. At this point you have tossed a hissy fit, lost your temper several times, shouted and screamed, established nothing other than you are a serial failure at this pursuit. Such an excellent reference for the readers. And…………You constantly failed to put a credible argument forward that challenges “Most FSU women don’t want to leave”. Calm down, take a chill pill, maybe a few deep breaths and develop a reasonable argument to substantiate more than a few Do want to leave. MIKE00 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/28/2008 8:00:01 AM   GOOD ON YOU JET GIVE IT TO EM BROTHER MIKE00 nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/28/2008 10:21:10 AM   Dun the whole IMBRA bill got legs by two do gooder Legislators in the States after the Indle King murder conviction. It wasn't set up to do a damn thing but find a way to tax a commerce that the Fed wasn't getting their hands on at the time. I think you're from Australia, but you also have to look at how our immigration fees have doubled in the last 5 years. It's not about about making a situation better, it's about the money trail. Like the situation going on now, let the frigging banks and fannie mae and freddie mac fail, it's not the first major banks to fail. Any remember EF Hutton? I'm glad I didn't listen. Also, failure of investment banks doesn't hurt us, though failure of commercial banks can. So quite to Mike00 and Dannys thoughts, we are not in as big a pickle as Mr. Bush and the bailouters want to make us believe.I'm just glad the House Conservatives are being a huge pain in the ass and not letting the socialists bail them out. They need to change the statement on the dollar from "The good faith and credit of the Federal Government" to "Backed by the random theft of John Q. Public" As for the trailer park statment, that's really funny. It's not only poor people who live in trailer parks, I don't think you have seen some of the gated communities in FL. Pretty Opulent for a trailer park. Anyone can live on skid row. It happens to the best. The difference is some pick themselves up and grow and others sit and blame others. So all people who live in trailer parks are not trash, because I know some in community that live in a very well to do area that are trash. Trash is a character issue not an economic one. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/28/2008 11:04:47 AM   "both University lecturers, one with 3 degrees and the other with 2, will share a pleasant dinner " Wow. I am so impressed. I happen to have 5 degrees myself. Three Bachelors Degrees and two Masters Degrees. But the little snippet of your facetious diatribe I cut and pasted above cannot possibly be correct. I am sure that they might share dinner with you, but PLEASANT. From your singular viewpoint maybe. Clearly you have little command of the English language despite your long winded posts as you STILL cannot admit when you are wrong. Must be frustrating to you to dine with intelligent people when you, yourself are so ignorant. Try not speaking and perhaps they will not notice that, or your arrogance. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/28/2008 11:28:00 AM   nasfan: dunromin is a classic example of low level psuedo-intellectual. He thinks that if he strings a few big words together he will impress us. He doesn't quite grasp the concept that the words have to be meaningful and accurate and that people. He arrogantly thinks that people will respect him if he SOUNDS like he knows what he is talking about. But when he is caught in error he weasles his way around and becomes insulting and abusive when his error is pointed out directly. His arrogance will not let him admit his mistake. It does little good to point out the particulars of the IMBRA bill as people like him have only fleeting knowledge of peritinat subject like that anyway. And if his error is pointed out he will simply calim he MEANT to say something else. That he now has to try to impress us with who he is dining with tonight shows that he is really on the same level as nooga bragging to us how much money he makes, door-to-door or danny who brags to us about his finances. First of all it proves his arrogance and his need to impress us and second it shows us how desperate he actually is. nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/28/2008 12:16:26 PM   I guess being at a hog roast yesterday and eating with Mike Sodrel doesn't qualify for anything!!LMAO!! Texasdude Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/28/2008 1:25:08 PM   Spent a summer workin' on farms in Sodrel's old district....some nice country there. Nothing like pigs on the spit! Give this ol' boy some BBQ! nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/28/2008 2:40:26 PM   Small world eh Texasdude? Texasdude Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/28/2008 3:26:28 PM   Yessir, it's a small world. Come to think of it, I've had some "pleasant" dinners in single and doublewides... Kirkland...thanks for the Rambler suggestion. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/28/2008 6:28:27 PM   Thanks Mike00. nasfan if you went to a hog roast yesterday then you probably have a fair idea of what it must be like to have a "pleasant dinner" with dunromin. Only significant difference is that no doubt you ate the swine, unlike the poor few mentioned above who have to sit next to it and listen to it. Dunromin Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/29/2008 3:34:39 AM   Jetmba: Far be it from me to try to advise you as you obviously know it all as evidenced by your result to date of failing. All your raving doesn't change the fact you are merely a blowhard with nothing to show for your who knows how many years of effort. You STILL haven’t come up with any credible evidence to challenge that most FSU women DON’T want to leave. In fact you evidence to the contrary because you CAN’T convince EVEN one to leave. Stick with Bartlett, that’ll do the trick. Nasfan6: LOL, I understand your point, my parents also frequent trailer parks with their ridiculously over priced travel hardware, as do a few of their retired mates, so I hear what you are saying. My reference was to the other end of the economic spectrum. Yes, I do spend most of my time In Australia. Quote: "whole IMBRA bill got legs by two do gooder Legislators in the States after the Indle King murder conviction. It wasn't set up to do a damn thing but find a way to tax a commerce that the Fed wasn't getting their hands on at the time." Broadly, my understanding of the IMBRA is that it was established as you say, at least some time after the IK murder (Whether or not that was really the key factor, I wouldn’t like to guess), it was driven by the extreme feminist movement and time and again there were net scripts, articles and so forth trying to justify it by pointing to the murder/s DVO/s and other unfortunate events associated with the MOB scene and time and again they seemed to imply the quality of men in this scene were of low to poor quality. Unfortunately, whether these were/are men from USA or any other country (I am not pointing fingers at any one group), in just enough cases to keep the blow torch on the subject, they were right. I question (Although it usually is financial where legislation is concerned) the financial angle as being a key driver. Perhaps it was, I would be interested in your expansion on that? When one looks at the bill, (I admit to only seriously reading a few parts of it) it gives, at least, the impression it is designed to force men from USA to paint themselves in the least glamorous light possible before they have the right to speak with a foreign lady directly via a website. It reeks from end to end as being a defense mechanism set up to placate the extreme feminist movement. I understand the increase in immigration costs, but do you really believe that is more than a tiny drop in a huge bucket? Would those increased visa and processing fees amount to 10 million per year? Take a wild assumption that it was 10 times that (A USA immigration Lawyer friend suggests to me it is way less than 10 million), 100 million. (Remember IMBRA effects only a percentage of visa applicants.) It hardly seems enough money to get a bill through congress. Personally, it appears to me to be pushed through by those or to please those lard butted hags who couldn’t get laid on a troop ship in a feeble effort to defend their position against possible women way out of their class. As to the failures of the financial establishment and the federal intervention, I have little knowledge of the details at this time other than as reported in the media and if there was any truth in the reports, it appears to be a hasty decision designed to dig a few bad management teams out of trouble with little call to account for their efforts, or, on another hand, an opportunistic means by which to nationalize some major institutions, one of the things the Feds so heavily criticize Russia for. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/29/2008 8:33:59 AM   done-ramen (alias noodle earer); I have no desire, nor responsibility to prove to you or anyone else whether or not FSU ladies choose to leave their home countries. You have offered no credible evidence that they DON'T, save the rantings and ravings eminating from your rectum. What PROOF do you offer US? Your posts are long winded but filled with nothing worth reading. You clearly have as little understanding of American Law and the legislative history of the law mentioned above as you do of Russian or Ukranian women. Your bragging "two of our Ukrainian friends, both University lecturers, one with 3 degrees and the other with 2, will share a pleasant dinner with us this evening, this is where we set our levels, whilst yours is LOL, socials? " gave the entire forum something to laugh at for your pomposity. I thank you for that. Now go back to communicating with someone of your own intellectual level. You mentioned that your child was beginning school? Then go speak to him before he actually attends, while you and he/she are still intellectual equals. You bore me - and I am sure you do the dame for most of the forum. Dunromin Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/29/2008 9:11:26 AM   Jetmba: With the IMBRA legislation, if I am so wrong in my assessment, please explain to me why a host of internet dating sites, some of the most popular ones included and at least 4 other forums (Pertaining to the FSU/Foreign marriage subject) are spending all the time and effort they are right now garnering petition signatures and submissions to lobby congress and ALL of them, without exception pretext their position by pointing out the Extreme Feminist movement will be the real stumbling block to having anything repealed or amended? Are doing this simply to create “Click Revenue”? Bookem-DanO Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/29/2008 3:17:21 PM   Back to the topic of Socials at hand ... I can see that both Jetmba and Dunromin have good points, but from differnt perspectives. Let me explain, I have been chatting a lot on MySpace with locals of Ukraine and Russia about women there seeking foreign men. Dunromin is correct, a mojority of them are not interested in leaving their country. Jetmba is also correct that the ones that DO want to marry a foreign man (a very small %) attend these Socials. So even though only a smal percentage of FSU girls want to leave, then ones that do are concentrated at these socials. And yes, there are all kinds of anecdotes of hookers appearing and girls looking to score free boose, but overall the socials do have women with genuine motives. (From what others have said) It just depend who you are surrounding yourself with. Jetmba attends these social, so naturally he is surrounded by this small percentage of women who are open to leaving their country for a good man. Then you have Dunromin, who social circle invovle Russian or Ukraine nationals that, on the majority, have no interest in leaving. It's no different in the US. There is such a small percentage that would live in a foreign country, but they do exist. Look at the non-military American neighborhoods in Panama and Costa Rica. They retire there to live like kings. There are even forums and websites to grow these neighborhoods. It's like this, I have two friends who are total WASPs, they only date asian women. They are not interested in any other race or nationality but the asian culture when it comes to marriage. They've been this way since high school. One of them finally got a job in Singapore and is living his dream. Now, we don't normally run into guys like this and I'm sure the percentage US is small compared to the rest of our population. Anyway, can you two concede to one another on the validity of each other's point ... and move on. I still have a bunch of questions pertaining to this topic. Kirkland Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/29/2008 5:05:56 PM   Texasdude, you didn’t get my point. I merely suggested you put a profile onto Rambler to see the difference between Russian dating site for Russian men and women in contrast to a marriage agency catering for western men. Rambler is a social networking/dating site much like myspace. You get, blogs forums, photo’s…etc. I have a profile on there created for me to talk to a Russian woman I’m in correspondence with. We message, send songs, links, articles and even get in conversation with her friends. She translates a lot of the stuff that they write about to each other for me to read. It’s a real eye opener and I always leave with something learned and something to think about. My point is this:- my profile is that of a 44 year old western man ( I was 42 when I began this odyssey), I live in UK and have a job. That’s the bare bones of my profile. You’d think that this would correspond to what we here (searching for the ultimate woman in fsu) think is what Russian women want….It’s not…...not the women on Rambler anyway. My profile has been on there for around 8 months and I could count the number of approaches by amazing hotties on the fingers of one hand. Possible good prospects a little more…but not much. Cut to the profile I had on another dating site…not a marriage agency, or pay per letter deal, but a membership type with IM and easy access to the ladies. (free membership for the ladies) well…I have to say the hotties were in abundance. I put my age range preference to keep them away and still they came…go figure. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 9/29/2008 5:51:40 PM   And yet I attend two sets of Romance Socials (3 years apart) and have my pick of virtually any woman there. Granted, some only wanted me for the night. I weeded that out and turned it down fairly quickly. But I had an absolute 100% success rate if you define that as finding a wonderful, beautiful, YOUNG, fit, attractive, intelligent English speaking lady who wants to come and live with me in the US at the earliest opportunity. A dunderhead above seems to think that success is determined only if a MAJORITY of ladies ("most") want to leave their home country. I reiterate that it is only neccessary to find ONE since that is all that our monogamous culture really allows us to form lasting relationships with (as in marriage). I love it when people knock something as a practie that doesn't work and then go back to beating their heads against the wall following practices that TRULY don't work. Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Check out what this Hotel says about picking up Odessa girls.
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