the attractive and sociable 5% of the men who travel to ukraine can do quite well in my opinion.
how do you know if you are in the 5%?
do the girls try to give you their contact info, or, do they want you to continue writing through the agency?
do the girls never ask you for taxi money whenever they meet you?
after a date or two, did she offer to cook you something in your or her apartment?
if the answer is yes to those questions, she's definitely into you.
dansing you are a cave man... "its impossible for a women to be into you before meeting" everytime you write… it confirms this fact.
Women are very much into our thoughts, ideas, preferences and beliefs on different subjects, all of which can be conveyed during the email, chat and skype relationship prior to an actual meeting. The meeting face to face only confirms a physical attraction exists... The relationship is more than just a physical one; let's face it after sex you need to be attracted to her for conversation and companionship
Yes, you are right dansing (cave man) quote: "writing gains nothing more then someone’s trust" after you gain their trust by disclosing your feelings, thoughts and desires then later arrange a physical meeting to determine if the chemistry exists for additional meetings... this is what we are doing when we first write and then quickly go visit them... what about this do you not understand? I thought this was simple enough that even a cave man could understand!
I worked with them for 2 years , if you want detail- write me directly. I can help find a real wife, or check your potential girlfrien here in Ukraine! I want help you avoid cheating.
Well it is not The Richards fault he must have pressure from local mafia, first service was good second third and fourth just keep my money not giving me any info. So It is my experience and real indeed.
I'm from Norway and I met a girl on this site. Now we live together and want to get married. Maybe this site has crooks, but at the same time there are a good honest girls. Just be careful!
There are three individuals/organizations which you can be scammed: the website, the agency and the lady. I often wondered what would happen if an honest lady signed up with either a dishonest agency or website.
I used to be a member of Russian agency and they helped me register on few sites (including NC), also providing full support during all my time there. I have nothing to complain about, but it's service they provide and it's not free just like any other. I paid to be a member, man paid for translation service which was always given to me until I learnt English well enough not to use it. Somehow, people in Western countries always seem to complain - high gas prices, cell phone connection, taxes - the list never ends. Have you tried not to, please? It doesn't seem to sound right. Honest women are out there, it's just not easy to find them.
When I was a member of site, 90% of men who wrote to me were scammers too, but different kind. All they wanted was sex, cyber sex, tour when they meet several women and have fun with them, not serious in any kind of relationship, just raising their self-esteem. Believe me, for women who are serious in intentions, it is NOT easier to find an honest man. It is not about the site, or money you pay for service (hello, capitalism, aren't you those who wanted it in the whole world), it's about common sense when you use it.
A little hint - from what I noticed, in Ukraine it became a real business and most women seem to be less honest comparing to Russia. Besides, a few months ago Ukraine was announced in media as a new sex tourism oriented country, being poor in industries, agriculture and technologies it is not surprising. This is why there's no visa required to visit it. Think twice when you think you are saving money going there, and good luck in finding your love!
I posted in the forum the Natasha Club profile of the lady I dated in Ukraine. I was sure it wasn't her going online as she was sometimes talking to me from the streets and one time she was on the train, and at the same time, she was logged on in Natasha Club. I would not have posted the profile if I thought it was legit.
This was the profile Danny contacted and hounded me with about that the lady I am in contact with is a scammer. Even if I or anyone else here was in contact with a scammer, there is no need to mention it time and time again. One time is sufficient. Twice is annoying. More than that is uncalled for.
I was thanking you for telling what is behind the scenes in dating sites, Victoria.
Danny, Natasha Club was where I posted the profile of the lady I dated. You contacted somebody. I didn't look too hard, but Natasha Club is the only place I know she is.
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he needs to see a pediatrician
rb im suprised at your coments . im suprised at how you lower yourself to that level i swear there are very few good guys dong the russia thing ... good i dont mean how well they spell or how educated they are or how good they look . but good hearts
im sorry but you are dumb it took me a while to realise it but you are just a fool .
do you really think ralph is going to spend his time writing as rasputin ...do you really think he cares about this forum that much , when he has a wife to go fishing ... your a fool . you have seen pictures of my partner you have seen her grave with her picture you know i wasnt evern in her country ... you are a fool
you come here bla bla bla .. doing nothing but educating guys on how to be scammed .... you have no idea .
thats the first barrel rb ...i hope your not near a balcony
i was genuinly worried about you . i offer to pay your ticket to ukraine .... you dont evern take the offer ... thats how foolish you are !
a few weeks ago i corresponded with your girl friend just to see for my self, easy to find she is on date sites ... it smells scam . i was planning to keep its to my self . but reading your post .. who cares what you think . i certaily dont
You have been busy in the archives, Rasputin. You were not around yet when I posted that profile. Yes, it is her, but not her logging in to the site. My reason, I explained above.