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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Success stories??? Any out there? Author Post nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/21/2010 9:23:43 AM   I disagree, most successful ones out of that group didn't have failures because we listened to what the previous people spoke about. You know the two ears one mouth theory. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/21/2010 10:07:21 AM   The two ears, one mouth theory says you have two ears and one mouth. Therefore, you listen twice as much as you talk. You are assuming that I haven't listened as much as I should, correct? Since you are already married does that mean you are all mouth? You disagree that one should be himself in courting? Surely there are much more factors involved than that which is covered in this forum. Will your group be there to guide others when one runs into problems? Is everyone in your group successful? At what point of the relationship should you reveal your true self and that you are following someone else's method of courting? nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/21/2010 10:55:06 AM   RB now I understand Ralphs position with you. You will justify about anything to deny that there is way to approach this. The courting doesn't happen until you establish a relationship. I believe and this isn't an insult but you're a lost cause in this and probably will not really learn. SirDaniel Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/21/2010 11:08:55 AM   I think it's correct what Ragingbull is saying, no way can anyone follow a set method, and someone else's at that, to date a woman, and expect it to be successful. "One mouth – two ears" is fine for students at an Institute, but to apply it to this Forum, especially with the amount of juveniles posting here, to my mind is not a wise thing to do. This Forum works, no doubt, if a guy is prepared to spend the time trawling through all the threads (and delinquent drivel) to land on a topic/posting related to his question. A good example of this is a couple of years ago when I first joined I remember searching this Forum for any information on Taxi fares from Odessa to Kherson, I landed on a topic that didn't have the exact info I wanted but, someone had posted (I forget who) that a Westerner should always try where possible to not speak in a Taxi in Ukraine, otherwise the fare will rise, sometimes considerably. The poster went on to advise that if a Westerner is with a girl in Ukraine and they take a Taxi somewhere, the Western guy should always sit in the front of the cab, even though he most likely doesn't speak Russian or Ukrainian, let his girl give the driver directions while the Western guy coughs or something to disguise his lack of communication to the driver. WHY ? Because Ukrainian guys ALWAYS sit in the front of a Taxi when with a woman. If done correctly with suitably timed cough etc, chances are the Taxi driver will never notice the "ruse" until the end of the journey when she translates the fare to her Western man. I've used this "trick" many times and still do to this day, first time I used it was in 2008, and for some reason I was excited to try it, it worked, and my girl at the time enjoyed that I had a "trick" or two up my sleeve to save money in Ukraine. So, my advice to newcomers to this Forum is NOT to follow some "group" or particular self proclaimed "expert" on here, but to pick up tips/information, and maybe read the experiences (good & bad) from sensible posters and use all of it to simply assist in the "journey" of finding an FSU partner. Although I understand that "sensible posters" on this Forum are becoming rarer than an accurate UK Politicians expense form, shame, really ! Regards. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/21/2010 12:31:25 PM   In the many times I have stated that I don't understand Ralph's rantings against me, you stated it's pathetic that I don't understand. Now you say you are now just understanding? Your story changes. I'm supposed to follow what you are saying? What am I justifying? Answer my questions and perhaps I will have something to justify. nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/21/2010 12:42:21 PM   You weren't with her for three years now you just got busted for another lie. That explains a lot of things now. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/21/2010 12:56:44 PM   Sir Daniel, in all of my taxi rides in Ukraine, the woman always went on foot to find the taxi and negotiated the price before I got into the picture. The figures might be a little off because I'm doing it by memory, but someone here once said he paid $50 USD for a trip from Simferopol to Yalta. My gf negotiated a price of $30. Harvey Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/21/2010 5:19:21 PM   my dad can beat up your dad! can too! nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/21/2010 9:56:32 PM   Danny you never had a real one, forget get over it. If you did you wouldn't be here accusing people of the way you went about it and got burned for 30K. Hell you're in Martins league now. Contrary to to your idiotic slander it didn't happen that way for me. See you're 0-2 with women from the FSU. Plus you stories of deaths around you would make a boring actuary start using heroin. Happy purchasing danny, that's the only way you can do it. So now you and CC conspire against Martin and myself. I love, I think you should be doing other things, but since your life is a zero this is what you do. Danny the greatest woman purchaser on this forum. nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/21/2010 9:59:06 PM   Sir Daniel, before you get in too deep, it has nothing to do with dating it has to do with the do's and don'ts in the FSU. SirDaniel Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/21/2010 10:15:41 PM   Mr Bull: Yeah, your way of getting a Taxi is probably the safer bet. And well done on the 20 bux saved. Any suggestions on buying stuff from the market ? My girl works in the day. Some days we need fruit, veg, and other bits n pieces, she always tells me to look in the main market for our shopping, but most stuff isn't pre priced, so I have to open my mouth and ask "skeel – key" and THAT'S when suddenly a watermelon costing 7uah to Ukrainians can cost 21uah to me, throw in all the other fruit, veg and everything else we need for day to day living and I'm thinking I need to be a relative of Mr W Gates to live here. So, I prefer to walk 5 minutes to the big Supermarket and just throw everything in a basket, then stand in line at the checkout, it's familiar territory to me, and no need to open my mouth once. Then however, she complains that we're wasting money and the food isn't natural. If I wait until the weekend when she's free and we can go to the market together, it looks like I'm a lazy bastard who just wants to sit in this flat all day long posting in this Forum and looking at her thongs that are scattered around the place in various states of drying, which, of course, I'm also happy to do, especially with this current weather, but I understand that I must do my 50%, if this relationship is to be a partnership for life. Weather man threatens minus 23C here on Sunday night, expect many irrelevant postings from me during this time, and she's going to have the biggest clothes wash day of her life Sunday lunchtime ! Regards. SirDaniel Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/21/2010 10:19:44 PM   Mr Nasfan: My misunderstanding, apologies. And I'm all for a Forum that posts the do's & don'ts in the FSU, know any ? ! Regards. durak Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/21/2010 11:17:25 PM   @Ralph: dead on target! Wildy Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/22/2010 5:12:39 AM   It's very interesting... I don't know even what food so expensive:) Wildy Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/22/2010 5:13:56 AM   It's very interesting... I don't know even what food so expensive:) Harvey Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/22/2010 7:03:25 AM   I do not know if this is a success story or not: I recently learned of a guy who was just hired at my place of business. He is married to a Russian gal. I spoke to him briefly. As I do not know all of the details I will share what I do know. He travelled to Russia to meet a lady. It didn't pan out. But while he was there, he met another woman. They clicked. She is now living in USA married to this guy. She is a doctor. She is working in a hospital very close to me. It is one of the best hospitals in the area. As I have not had any kind of real discussions about it with him I cannot know all the details. He is early thities. Smart but not what one would call a handsome man. Is it a success story? Time will tell. But they have a house in a very good area and it seems they are living the average married couple's life. Read into it what you want. But it is a fact that this guy went to meet a lady(or more), then dicovered by chance a woman who was able to assimilate easily into America and to also apply her skills as a physician and work in a very reputable hospital. You never know what will happen. The point is there are women who are on the up-and-up and are not neccesarily on dating sites. It is like finding a neddle in a haystack. But sometimes just playing in the hay you find a needle without looking for it. Harvey Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/22/2010 7:41:04 AM   My success story? One cannot call it a success until after five years there is still the spark and desire... It was a year ago when I first started this journey. After some prodding - or encouragement form a co-worker - I decided to look 'elsewhere' for a wife. Short story, I met her through elenas models. We 'clicked'. It was almost three months of correspondance until we met. We met in a nuetral place. Only because it was difficult on short notice to get Russian visa. Planned another visit for two months later. Spent the New Year in Russia six months later. Interview for K1 visa is in 19 days. Planning wedding in May. Spending two weeks in Yellowstone in July. And yes, she is learning to fly fish! Some may think it is too short of a time to know someone. Yet, there are couples who married after a brief 'romance' in the US who are still together. There is a cloud that hangs over our heads for looking to another land to find a lady. And it takes a lot of work and committment. More than the average relationship. Last night I told a friend that I was marrying a lady from Russia. The first words out of her mouth were, "Mail order bride." It just goes to show how ignorant many people can be. But if I married a gal from Texas whom I met through match.com, it would be okay. What is the difference? For one reason or another we have decided to look to 'FSU' for a woman. We all have our own reasons. But for Americans I can assume it is the same as mine. And I am no slouch. Good luck if this is what you want. It is not easy. Some of us were fortunate enough to meet that special person right away. Of course after weeding through very many. Just have your goals sorted out with reasonableness before you travel. And absolutely know the person before you meet. Or as in the guy above, sometimes you just get lucky on a chance meeting. Harvey Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/22/2010 8:19:30 AM   "How many ways are there to court a woman? One? Two? Three? If a method works for one, will it necesarily work for another? It is good to study the methods of others. But then again, you must note that the successful ones also had their failures and the failures had their successes. I think it is best to be yourself and decide for yourself what method is best for you. Otherwise, your relationship would be a lie and it will surely come out eventually." - RB I am still trying to decide if I should comment on this post. I guess I already have... Why does one need a 'method'??? If you 'need' a method, then you are just acting. Or more so, you are just a salesman. Why complain about scammers, women who are just in it for the game or professional daters when you are trying to figure out a method? Is not just trying to find a method of how to convince a woman to want to be with you nothing more than a scam in itself? To have a method is nothing more than to have a sales pitch. Do I need a method to date the lady in my own town? I suppose my method would be to not lie, bullshit or pretend to be someone I am not. Since it is easily found out who I really am in my own neighborhood. But to try to fool someone who does not have the benefit of seeing you in real life and knowing who you really are is the same thing as scamming a woman. Sure some think being scammed is to be taken for money by some tart in Ukraine. But think of a sincere woman who falls for a man and discovers later that he is not what he represented or how he 'acts' when the "courting" is going on. Or that he is still stuck in adolescence. The more I read the more I sympathetic toward these ladies I become. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/22/2010 10:13:40 AM   "I suppose my method would be to not lie, bullshit or pretend to be someone I am not. Since it is easily found out who I really am in my own neighborhood. But to try to fool someone who does not have the benefit of seeing you in real life and knowing who you really are is the same thing as scamming a woman." Being myself and not to lie is the only method I am comfortable with. SirDaniel Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/22/2010 2:40:08 PM   Ralph: Interesting posts. Good luck, I sincerely hope it all works out for you and your lady. My relationship is also quite new, but, we're living together, and it's great, a dream. Didn't have a method to meet her, or any other girls here I've been lucky enough to date. Marina and me met on the social networking site VKontakte, not really a dating site. After a week of writing we arranged a meet in the Centre, we've been together ever since, almost 2 months now. Like your relationship it's too early to say what the future holds, but all so far is good. When the weather clears a little I want to take her to see Poland, Warsaw, Krakow etc. We're both excited about a week a way together in a country she has some friends but has never seen. Later in the year we'll spend a week at the Black Sea, I've never been. Best regards. Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Success stories??? Any out there?
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