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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Advice: Mariupol and General Author Post durak Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/12/2010 2:48:01 AM   I have looked several times for online maps of Ukrainian cities, with very little success. I can tell you this: with hl=en (English language), google maps shows Budivel'nykiv as a quite long continuous way, with the same name ALMOST from end to end -- though the northernmost stretch (north of Granitna street) is called Litakova street. But with hl=ru (Russian language), the name Budivel'nykiv keeps alternating with Stroiteley ... and north of Granitna, Litakova alternates with Samolyotnaya. So Stroiteley Passage and Budivel'nykiv are one and the same. Many streets in Ukraine (and Russia) were renamed after the end of the Soviet Union. The old names (Construction and Airplane streets) sound typical of communist-style naming. I'm guessing that Litakova and Budivel'nykiv may be the names of eminent Ukrainians. This renaming can get quite confusing. Even if the name changed almost 20 years ago, and modern maps show only the new name, street signs may still show the old name, and city residents may also stick to the old name. Muzzy Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/12/2010 4:44:11 AM   Taxi's around the city are usually 12hrv (about $1.50) from anywhere to anywhere as long as you're in the city centre-ish. Sometimes it's 20hrv if you go out of town (for instance to the bowling alley or ice-skating). 90USD from Donetsk airport is about right if you're booking a taxi online or through an apartment or marriage agency. If you use one of the local taxi firms, it's closer to $50, but I wouldn't recommend this unless you speak good Russian and are comfortable interacting with people out there. Be aware, though, planes from Borispol B are regularly late (two of my three flights to Donetsk were an hour late), and the taxi driver will charge for waiting, so have some spare cash handy just in case. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/12/2010 5:21:19 AM   This airline, flying in/out of Mariupol, I think, is still operating but don't know how to book with them: www.ilyich-avia.com.ua durak Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/12/2010 10:12:20 AM   @I'm Not: Cool website! It does give a phone number for booking flights, though I don't know whether they will have a fluent English speaker on the line. The Ilyich-Avia fleet has 4 planes :) There's a town in northern Russia whose only scheduled air service is from a micro airline, also operated by the local steel mill. Their "fleet" consists of one jet. I made some correspondence with a very pretty girl there, and was researching how in hell to reach the town. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/12/2010 11:38:55 AM   Off topic somewhat, For you guys going to Crimea, (summer only) Dniproavia operate flights between Kiev KBP and Sevastopol Airport, that's Sevastopol, not Simferopol! Muzzy Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/12/2010 12:57:46 PM   I've tried to get a flight with Ilyich Avia, and it's just not been possible. I've emailed them, but got no response - I even asked a friend in Mariupol (administrator & secretary of a church of 600 with a Masters Degree), and she couldn't book a flight with them no matter how much she tried. So, that'd be a typical Ukrainian airline then :) Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/14/2010 6:11:59 PM   Muzzy, Airline 'Motor Sich' was another, quote, 'typical' until they started code-sharing with Aerosvit & UIA, I flew with them twice, the AN-24 was a heap of sh1t but the AN-140 is a nice piece of equipment ..... and then I read that Motor Sich are on the EU list of banned airlines! RodanTsunami Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/14/2010 6:43:12 PM   It is is my mind that there was damage to the runway some years back at Mariupol airport and is now only used for military and freight, but I do not recall the particulars. It might be that I was told by a woman I was writing to. RodanTsunami Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/14/2010 6:51:33 PM   There are direct flights from London Gatwick to Simferopol and cheaper than the flight to Kiev. The bus to Sevastopol is about 5 euros and every 15 minutes from the bus station, probably from the airport as well. About an hour ride on a nice coach and you miss the layover in Kiev and the added cost of the connecting flight. Ukrainian Airlines Boeing 737 Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/14/2010 6:54:26 PM   Rodan, Unaware of when the little aeroplane flew over Mariupol airport for the images on Google Earth but it shows 2 AN-140's, a B727, and an exec jet on the ground there. RodanTsunami Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/14/2010 7:42:04 PM   It was over a year ago that I was making plans to fly to Mariupol. I think that it was being repaired at the time, but I think that it was considered unpracticle to establish commuter flights because of the shutdown of much of the industry in Mariupol. The lady told me that at that time there were no commercial flights that and I would have to fly into Donetsk and take a taxis. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/14/2010 7:44:20 PM   That should have read a B737 :) RodanTsunami Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/14/2010 8:05:33 PM   727 would have only supported my theory. Most now are freighters Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/14/2010 8:17:44 PM   It would probably be a licensing issue Roodan, freighters are, as a rule of thumb, a lot heavier than passenger aircraft, they carry a heavier payload, thus use more of the runway, a passenger aircraft may be able to operate to/from a restricted length of runway, if a runway is unsafe then it is unsafe so probably politics involved. RodanTsunami Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/14/2010 8:25:15 PM   I have found a site that describes passenger flights by an industrial firm in Mariupol. It looks as thought they are a fledgling airline serving their own needs but also carry the general public. I did not make an attempt to contact them, but I am interested if it does work for someone http://www.ilyich-avia.com Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/14/2010 8:30:10 PM   I'm Not The W@nker ... He Is! 12.08.2010 5:21:19 This airline, flying in/out of Mariupol, I think, is still operating but don't know how to book with them: www.ilyich-avia.com.ua :) RodanTsunami Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/14/2010 8:43:08 PM   Upon looking at the site further, the flights listed were from 2008. The site may be a "Ghost Ship" and why Muzzy had no reply. RodanTsunami Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/14/2010 8:46:35 PM   Quite possibly, everything written here by everyone is correct Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/14/2010 8:51:57 PM   Yes, but why are they still paying for the domain if no longer in business? It is/was an airilne, there are more than one industrial companies in Ukraine that have airline subsidaries, much the same as a record label owner starting Virgin Atlantic or Elvis Presley's management starting Holiday Inn. Try going to airline 'Motor Sich's' website, supposed online booking comes up with a fare of 'nothing', of 'zero', asking if one would like to confirm, of course one would like a flight for nothing but, as they say, "This is Ukraine" :) RodanTsunami Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/14/2010 9:09:41 PM   I have seen this before, especially in large corporations. The person writing the check has no idea the subject is defunct and no one to say different. I found telephone lines being payed for by a company for phone booths that were gone for years and another that had taken over a building and the telephone bill was payed by the previous tenant for 8 years. 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