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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > ANASTASIA ROMANCE SOCIALS STINK Author Post beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/12/2010 8:25:50 PM   Hey Jet.......I see you are not serious because you are not married by now!!!! Don't worry, that is what I have been accused of....never mind that I chose to take my time to find the right girl....who knows maybe she is down the block and I am just meeting all these gorgeous young girls for no apparent reason other than thowing away money(as I have been told). There aa lot more to this than meets the eye, sure I would like to be married again(as many here) but it is a PROCESS, I chose to really get know a girl, if it takes a couple years so be it( that is what it took to marry my ex)in the mean time..there is adventure, meeting new friends( many are girls I met that want to fix me up with their friends)experiencing a new culture, learning a new language...so there is alot going on here. There are guys here that meet 1 or 2 girls,maybe in 1 trip, find what they are looking for, well good for them BUT I find it hard for them to look at me and tell me I am doing something wrong. If I think it is wrong I will change it. I have a close friend that met his wife same thime as I met last girl I saw(almost 2 years), he is married now with his wife and son here. He asked me why I have not find a girl yet...it was easy, just go meetone.fall in love,file K-1 and marry her. It was only after I told him the many things that happened for him to actually meet her....ie: first girl didn't work out( on trip), girl almost missed her bus to Kiev, a friend of girl that almost convinced her not to go, my friend almost missing his connecting flight.......He now beleieves that LUCK played the most important role. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/13/2010 8:53:53 AM   Barron: You fighten me with your threats so bad. Ooooh. I am shaking in may chair as I write this. No doubt your hands would be too soft to inflict any damage should you be given the opportunity. Or have they been toughened up by paper cuts and staple chafing? In any event Ooooooh I'm so scared. Beemer: You are taking quite a risk admitting what you do above. Barron has imposed time limits on searches (and he MIGHT rub his knuckles all over you). And Secr3t speaks for the women of FSU who have been treated unseriously by western men and have had broken hearts. These two guys have supposedly been "successful" but come here to the forum to entertain themsleves by reading the sage adive they type. Harvey Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/13/2010 4:11:09 PM   jet, thanks for the informative posts lately. I didn't want to comment but you have been generous with good information on a few threads. As for the little digs... well, baron likes to put people down, not just you. Though I can't deny my own less than flattering remarks at times. I actually was fortunate enough (call it quite lucky) to have met someone early in my quest through EM. And no, it was not meet and file for K-1 as was suggested. Not relevant to this anyway. But I don't recall my ever signing off saying my 'young hottie', 'hot blonde russian wife' or by any other demeaning description was waiting for me upstairs. Nor did I ever refer to my wife as 'my $99 bride', "$99 wife' or whatever. It seems as though it is an ego trip for someone. Baron does have good input sometimes. But it seems as though has a 'holier than thou' attitude. Keep doing what you're doing. Whatever works for you and makes you comfortable is all that matters. FYI: I was given the highest compliment from a co-worker yesterday. He described my wife to his wife as "A sweetie" - we were making dinner plans and she hasn't met her yet - meaning she is a genuinely nice person. That means a lot more to me than saying she is 'hot' to other men. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/13/2010 4:57:04 PM   Raging Bull, The example I was using was Global Ladies, or whatever they have changed their name to following so much bad publicity, in their rules they forbid exchanges of personal contact information, obviously they have software in their system that detects a series of digits or anything that resembles an email address, however their affiliate agencies are appointed by corruptness, the affiliate agencies revenue 50% of GL's charges, so often the letters are manufactured by agency staff, it would not be in their best interests to forward a lady's, or the guy's, personal contact information and they don't. Besides that, a guy normally doesn't start off writing to just one lady but several, it might be said that 15 exchanges per month is less than what many guys will be spending! ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/13/2010 5:41:06 PM   Globalladies, is what I used for my first visit. I do not understand why they have bad publicity as I have stated in the past. Yes, they have scammers, but as have been stated by others, not just by me, how can one prevent that, even if you strive for an honest website? Now and then, we get postings about scammers from fiance.com. Imagine that. The ladies could be scammers or the agency they use could be scammers. I used globalladies before I learned about not paying per letter. I wrote to about 15 or twenty ladies, never to more than one lady at a time. Whenever I asked for their emails or phone numbers, it was always given. Yes, there were times when I detected that the letters they sent were manufactured. Sometimes, they were too flowery or they didn't answer my questions. They just went on and on about the love they are looking for. There were also times when the lady would write after one or two letters and tell a story of why they can't go with it. I don't see how the letters could be manufactured for the revenue if such a letter was written. I remember one particular lady writing me that she decided to go back to her boyfriend against her mother's wishes. Her boyfriend was married. I thought she was a great prospect, as she understood and replied to every aspect of my letters. No, I didn't come up with a relationship on my first visit, but I did stay in the lady's apartment for one week. She did cook for me and she did show me around Kiev. The drawback would be she was communicating with others, probably also from globalladies. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/13/2010 6:39:18 PM   RB, The scammers are Global Ladies themselves, they spam guys with intro letters from ladies that the ladies did not send, GL dictate that an intro letter be placed on GL's database and GL mailshot these intro letters to guys so guys are fooled in to responding at $$$ per response. I've been inside a GL affiliate agency and not as a customer, agency staff sitting there receiving/transmitting letters, at $$$ per letter, and without a 'lady' in sight and there will be hundreds, indeed thousands, of guys out there paying $$$ for these fake letters believing they are falling in love with, what transpires to be, perhaps, a grandmother sitting in an office somewhere. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/13/2010 7:09:08 PM   Is the scammer Globalladies or their affiliate agency? Your story is not conclusive. It's their affiliate agency, as you said who was receiving and transmitting letters. All I hear is that Globalladies is a scam, but what have they done? I had not gotten one letter that was a "rerun", and I have read many intro letters. An intro letter can be a scam or not. I don't see anything wrong with spamming many men with one letter from one lady to get a response or responses, if the lady is genuinely looking for a mate and she chose the men to be written to. What you saw is agency staff sending letters. It could be perfectly legitimate if the lady picked out the men to be written to. They just weren't around when they were sent. If the lady is not serious, did not pick the man to be written to or the letter contained lies about her, was paid for the letter, or if the lady is made up or unaware of the letter, and the letter is being written by the agency, I will agree it is a scam. But again, what has globalladies done to be labelled a scam? Yes, I probably ran into scammers with my dealings with globalladies, but I don't believe I was scammed by them. I think they dealt with me fairly. beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/13/2010 7:10:42 PM   "The example I was using was Global Ladies, or whatever they have changed their name to following so much bad publicity, in their rules they forbid exchanges of personal contact information.... Ivor......you can get postal addresses and phone numbers. You just call them to get their e-mail address, of course if the girl is interested. I don't understand WHY there is so much dissention about sites, the agencies or the girls. If a guy is such an idiot to believe everything they hear or read, it is called a 'you' problem. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/13/2010 7:21:27 PM   beemer, Put it this way, I was in the GL affiliate agency one time when, agency staff responding to a guy who was asking the best way of travelling from a regional UK city to Ukraine, I was asked for advice by the staff, as I was mentioning KLM, Lufthansa etc. I said "hey, give him my email address", I was looked upon with shock and horror and it was explained to me, in no uncertain terms, that GL affiliate agencies cannot transmit email addresses etc. beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/13/2010 7:28:11 PM   ivor.....you don't ask the agency or site for the girls e-mail address...you ask her directly. We are assuming the girl speaks good enough english...... Also, you can get a phone number for any girl in moldova just from her postal address!!! Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/13/2010 7:39:56 PM   beemer, With Global Ladies you are never, not from what I saw, communicating with the lady directly, everything is via an agency, at $$$ per letter why on earth would they allow the two of you direct contact with each other? :) beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/13/2010 7:45:19 PM   I don't know ivor.....if you want next time a speak to the girl I will ask her. It is her cell phone, not at the agency. If you read the rules, most girls don't speak very good english. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/13/2010 8:00:46 PM   Beemer, I only speak of what I experienced and received inside information regarding, it is not something I consider worthy of entering in to a disagreement about. :) As a "P.S'" that same agency became an affiliate for Army Of Brides and the agency owner approached me to become a business affilate/partner, my words, to her, were, "But AOB are a scam" and she replied "Yes", the agency owner did her best to persuade me but I wasn't having any of it! ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/13/2010 8:08:17 PM   Are we talking about the same globalladies? It beats me why they will allow you to contact each other, but they did. It was 2007 when I used them. She gave me her phone number through her letters and I called her. Then, I visited her. She didn't speak English, so I used an interpreter, not globalladies affiliated interpreter. There was one lady that I corresponded with for several months that I did not visit who spoke good English. I only used globalladies letters two or three times with her. But I did meet her in that site. I got her phone number from her letters and email address directly from her on the phone. For the record, I have never asked the agency or the site for a lady's email or phone number. I always asked in the letter. Yes, it may have been given by the agency or site ultimately. It has been a couple of years since I asked for a phone number, so perhaps it has changed. I don't understand how it is different with Ivor other than it has changed. To me, the fact that the lady's phone number or email was given gave the site credibility. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/13/2010 10:05:22 PM   Somewhere in all of this MoonKnight's post got lost in the shuffle. (Its on the page just before this one). MoonKnight - if you are really dubious about this girl to whom you refer, who is lised on several websites and whom yoou have contacted by joining those sites. (I presume that you have used the technique some men use of contacting her using different identities and either recieving conflicting information - or SHE didn't recognize you on a different website even though you were using the same identity that she should supposedly know. Both of these techniques are commonly used by guys who supect the women they have been writing to is less than sincere). Keep in mind many letters are written by agency hacks and the real woman has no clue to your existance. She may be REAL on one website (as a girl I knew in Mariupol was) and completely fake on another (meaning letters men received, she had no knowledge of). But I URGE yoi to consider an AFA Romance SOcial. Yheu mau be a little expensive - but I have just come from a meeting with a bunch of guys who swore the that the experience was easily worth ten times the $4,000 he paid - another guy sitting with us simply said it was priceless. ESPECIALLY if you have never been to Ukraine before - these guys do a great job of looking out for you, making all the arangements and even connecting you with women from their listings in the off chance you don' meet anyone special at the Social. I hope you will seriously consider and AFA Romance Social. (And again I have absolutely no affiliation with the company. I just happon to believe in them from experiences I've had first hand. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/13/2010 10:13:50 PM   Wow - I have to stop keying these posts in dark rooms. Can't beieve how many wronf letters I hit. I am (obviously) not a "touch typist". I still have to look at my fingers to make sure I am actually hitting the keys I think I am - and the above post with all the wrong key strokes show that I really can't do that in a dark toom. Sorry about that. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/14/2010 2:06:13 AM   Don't blame yourself, jetmba. Barron sabotaged your keyboard. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/14/2010 5:09:51 PM   Just like I don't feel like globalladies to be called a scam without proper proof, I also feel the same way about AOB. Yes, I paid per letter, but I don't think I spent much more than the $99 with EM or fiance.com. It could have been different, but I can't go back. I met the girl on my second visit and my current gf through AOB. They were genuine women, looking to get mates. Yes, I had trouble with the lies of my second girl, but in the end, she was quite upset when I told her I was going for a third visit and I did not visit her. About Moonknight, he hasn't met the girl yet and he is wondering if she is true. How true can anyone be when you have not met her? I agree it is harder to have a relationship with a much younger girl. It is hard enough when it is not a much younger girl. The only thing you can do is trial and error. You will have much higher error rate with the younger girl, but it can be done. Forum members have done it, but most perhaps not that much of an age difference. Perhaps, jetmba's suggestion is good. Wanda Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/10/2011 7:02:24 AM   I am amazed by the naivete being expressed on this site. There is talk of disappointing Ukrainian girls. What a joke. What do Ukrainian girls know about what is good for them. Very little. They want the brass ring: a rich American to pay their way while they get their nails done and their hair done and have intercourse. And be able to write back home to tell them of how much money he has. If Ukrainian girls and their families had their heads on straight they would have seen to it that their daughter was educated and trained to be able to support themselves well so she could be independent and self respecting with an active mind. Instead of laying around dreaming of a rich husband with that one image burned into their head. And nothing else going on in it. Seeing every man as a bank account: is that what you are afraid of disapointing? What good relationships are about is a bond of love. You don't have to be married to have it but it helps. The best way I can help you understand the importance of love bonds it to have you read this wonderful work called "Child Care and the Growth of Love" written by Dr. John Bowlby; a British psychiatrist. Not having the goal of marrying a woman is not a sin; it is much more complicated then that. The act of intercourse with affection is valuable to both parties regardless of the circumstances. durak Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/12/2011 9:27:34 AM   Идеальный муж: гибрид банкомат и вибратор Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > ANASTASIA ROMANCE SOCIALS STINK
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