No one has showed me any new ways, so just shut your fucking mouth and fuck off!!! My only problem is that I can not spend enough time over there, they want a guy back every month, and I can't do that.
My views on nude cam??? Very simple, if I find them on any chat or webcam, nude or not, they are history!!!! If they want to be on skype one on one with me, that is different!
Lonely... THIS IS MY FIRST REPLY/REBUTTAL... Where and how did I attack you (or R'n'B for that matter... ???
"Firstly Thanks for all your comments... It is great to finally be able to share and get the opinions from people that have similar experiences...
OK... LonelyRanger and more to the point Rag'n'Bull.. I would totally agree with all you have written except for one thing... I have not payed and would never pay 1 cent for webcam with anybody... We use Skype and it is totally free for me and for her...
Actually since day 1 this girl has cost me literally zero dollars... I get my sms and international calls for free on my plan. It has cost her much more ... etc etc...
So Rag'n'Bull I can totally understand your comments from the point of view of me paying for her time... but now that we know that is not the case maybe you could look at this with different eyes...
But I do agree with you ... I am acting like a 16yo... LOL... I can't say I am not having fun... and this is the whole point for my post... Is it possible that dreams can come true... Or am I literally in fantasy land and missing something obvious to somebody else... etc... etc.. "
AND THEN this is what YOU come back with.... THIS is your NEXT post ...
"Aus I L,,,,, First thing, I think you are a sick Fxxx that’s just jerking our chain for kicks!!! What the hell is it with Aussies??? Even if I didn’t know where you were from, I would still call you classless low life!! "
Soooo Lonely... Where and how did you see any association between me and Danny...? Why can you not admit you are totally wrong, way out of line and apologise... THEN we can get on with life... Because I don't know who Danny is and what history you have together and with R'n'B, but I do know this... you me in a verbal fight... you will loose... every time... ;)
Why don't we create a separate dedicated post/topic where Danny, Lonely, R'n'B and, anybody else that wants to join their party, can have their $hit fight and carry on to their hearts content about how they hate each other... and we can leave other posts for those of us that are interested in the experiences/mistakes/learnings of others that have gone through or are going through this journey...
This way they can be happy throwing $hit at each other and we don't have to read any of their issues with each other among our posts? unless we want to be amused in which case we can just go and read the latest gossip about the Phillipines (however it is spelled R'n'B)
Lonely? Danny? R'n'B what do you say? would you be in that? Could we turn this forum back to what it is supposed to be about? rather than your personal "hate" forum...?
I don't have a shit fight with anybody ... I'm above your level!
Just tell me what you want me to say and I'll blow smoke up your arse like a minority of others are doing, you want to hear the truth then listen to the majority rather than the minority!
“Soooo Lonely... Where and how did you see any association between me and Danny...? Why can you not admit you are totally wrong, way out of line and apologise... THEN we can get on with life... Because I don't know who Danny is and what history you have together and with R'n'B, but I do know this... you me in a verbal fight... you will loose... every time... ;) “
When you write like danny, you look like danny!!
Too often we will have multiple profiles on the forum, and in time little traits come out!
I was trying to make peace in several threads here,,, but then I get to read this?!
No,,, no “apologisessss” from me!
Hahaha what a butt plug. He knows how it all works and gas nit been there. I was naieve when i first started, but this clown weaves a rare mix of complete ignorance, blended with enough lack of knowledge to build a ship, then fills it to sinking with hubris and a distinct lack of knowledge of the world.
I would guess, that everything has turned to shit.
Martin ( ivor ) has probably just found out that he, indeed, has been bangin' ladyboys.
He's probably got a STD and the moneys run out and all the workers have told him to fuck off.
I have to laugh, another 'success' story that's been too much to keep on lying about.
I wonder if, the ladyboys will get a website dedicated to them as well?
Ha, Ha, ha.
Smart a, please knock it off with the ladyboys thing. Martin is many things, but I don't believe he is into ladyboys. Ladyboys has been a obsession with Danny. You will only discourage him. Just the thought of it makes me cringe. I don't see how anyone's thoughts can be so filled with things like this.
Tom,,, you’re talking about the “OP” (original post-er) aren’t you??? The “Others” here have been using this thread to attack RnB. They have nothing else in the world to do all day.
OK, I went to Facebook. I see dozens and perhaps hundreds of people with Martin's name. In Google, it is the same. What did you do? You went through all of them and found the one that has the closest chance of him being with ladyboys and came to the conclusion that it was the same Martin as in the forum.
If ladyboys are in your mind, start with your own family. Buy your son dresses. By him lipstick. Buy him Barbie dolls. Make him a playhouse. Find another forum not to find out about these things, but to teach them. You are the expert here. This is your sexual fantasy.
Rick4girl,,, AIL should have been back by now, basking in his 100% guaranteed success?? But he’s not. One can only guess,,,, why not,,, but after digging himself such a big hole, the most likely reason would be embarrassment.
I went back and read most of this thread,,, and noticed how he thanked certain people,,,, “ you know who you are” lol as he wrote,,,,, but the people he thanked for their positive attitude and success,,,, don’t have anyone either?!!!
“Your choice. When you follow advice here, listen to these guys advice who succeeded, not the advice of those who failed.”
“Did have one girl who really tried hard to have me meet her. Each time we chatted she would do her sexy dance. She was really sincere. So what are u actually asking?”
“Oh and I broke up with my fiance. Turns out she was only wanting money and gifts all along.”
Apal was man enough to admit his mistakes with his girl,,,,, but who saw it happen months before??? Martin and I!!
The “naysayers” know what they are talking about,,,,, don‘t they??!!!
People keep saying that I’m too negative??? I hope so,,, because I need to be 99% negative to be accurate!!
Too many men read the propaganda from the websites and think it’s going to be easy! All of the girls are so eager to meet them,,,,, it’s going to be so easy??!!!
Every guy needs to hear what Martin and I have to say,,,, before they go!!
I didn’t post on this forum until after my first trip,, but I did read a few threads before it. And guess what,,, they were negative threads,,,, and they were very accurate!!
What is it that enjoys the worst in people, Danny? By your enjoyment of their miseries, they want to go after you in the same way. Is this the way you want your footprint in history be recorded?
You must have learned this from somewhere. You must do this also in your real life. You can't possibly be like this in the forum and a nice guy everywhere else.
People in the forum deserve better. Your family and friends deserve better. You deserve to be better.
I have found over the years thats its really no different dating a girl in an FU country than in US. They certainly are prettier and younger but often more demanding! After a few weeks, the same issues come up as back home. Ive probably saved much more money in the long run by dating/living with them in Ukraine before bringing them home. By living there you find out who the real girls, the scammers, the professionals and the casual daters are. Better dates come from the grocery store, Caravan, friends and happenstance.
Men shouldnt make the mistake of dreaming big and having unrealistic expectations such as thinking they will find the right one the first time out. Dating is still alot of fun
Danny can’t even copy a sentence without making a mistake,,,,, or 3-4?!!!
Poor danny,,,, such a loser!!!
Who said women want nothing to do with me??? I dated a lot years ago!! I had my good times. But I got older, and there are a lot fewer single women without children,,, who still want to have children!
When I started the online dating, I had at least three local women who wanted to date me, but none were capable of starting a family with me. Two already had a family, and one I didn’t want to have children with.
Rick4girl,,,, dating around home isn’t cheap either. One should expect to pay something.
But then there’s danny,,,,, a guy who picks his girls pockets, and gets her a job for her 1st day in a new country??!!
Is danny really that stupid, or is it a complete lack of class????
"better dates come from the ...Caravan... What is the "Caravan"?
Rick, how crucial is a command of the Russian language if residing there vis-a-vis dating ?
Can you speak 'it', and if so, can you give me any major short cuts to cracking 'it' because I'm trying on my own but it's like they have deliberately convoluted their language for some odd reason...it doesn't stack up...is their some "story" or "philosophy" to keep in mind when trying to learn or speak it?
Personally, a lady I'm liaising with keeps throwing up "problems" I know I can quickly resolve with money, but I know simultaneously I may be creating an insatiable 'monster'.. so it's a bit catch 22. For example...grey over-cast, crappy weather depresses her,apparently...a solution, I'll take you to Thailand ...but due to work imperatives, for two or three weeks, *not* two or three months. Do these FSU ladies know about our limitations??
I hear Ukrainian family bonds are very tight...If a Westy unexpectedly found himself strongly adoring both the daughter and her mother is this a lose/lose situation for me? Will the mother ever risk jeopardising her relationship with her daughter and/or vice versa.