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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Maybe I should seek professional help... Author Post blu_craze Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/6/2013 3:28:59 PM   You can't change how anyone is going to act or what they will say man. Nothing you can say will change that or them. My first Russian gf was very materialistic, but then again my last two gf, first American and the other Mexican while not materialistic always dressed me up and insured I bought nice watches and shoes etc. and lost the hat and but some in some hair gel. But my last Russian girl was a jewel, she was a t-shirt/ hoody and jeans kind of girl, but could dress up when she wanted to, most of the time decided not to. And she didn't care about big houses, (maybe a nice car but I can't sure) but me spending money always drove her crazy, she didn't like it. She lived in a big city but was raised in a small town, so that may a factor in the differences of not only woman but men too. Another reason why I love visiting my friend in Ireland more so than anywhere else in Europe are that they are most like America when it comes to relaxed attire. The men anyway, the woman always tend to dress up but the men go as is. Its also a cultural difference, it America its foo foo and unmanly to always dress up in a suit outside of work. My ex American gf was best friends with her boss who was a Russian self made millionaire woman of a telecom business. She and her husband would walk around Denver in sweats and ride used bicycles, didn't own a car but had a super nice flat on the 30th floor of a high rise. So my conclusion out of all of this is that whether I find a girl in the U.S. or overseas I will probably look at her upbringing closely. Will try to choose a small town or country girl, but city girls are not out of the question, there are many good girls to choose from there to just have to weed out the spoiled ones ;) jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/6/2013 3:40:13 PM   blu_craze....You've had THREE girlfriends. OMG. I hope that was in a space of 7.5 years or more. If not you best not mention them on this forum. You are dangerously close to being labeled a sex tourist according to the definitons used here - by guys who women can't stand. A word to the eise should be sufficient. This is NOT the place to mention that you have had any relationships with women. (You MUST deride women as whorse and skanks). jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/6/2013 3:45:44 PM   Wait - I counted FOUR mentioned above, 2 Russian, an American and a Mexican. and now you are comptemplating adding ANOTHER?!?! You are entering dangerous territory in this forum. Get ready for a LOT of name calling - unless you start calling all women scammers VERY FAST. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/6/2013 3:59:21 PM   Spending money or wasting anything always drove my Moldovan lady crazy too. I once bought a fake Rolex in Moldova for $12. I bought it because it was such an absurdly BAD fake that it was downright funny, and I bought it STRICTLY for the humor factor. (I doubt even customs would have had a problem with it, because it was SO CHEAP looking - NOBODY would have thought it was a genuine Rolex). My girl had a fit that somebody would spend all of $12 on a wtch they never intended to wear. When I brought her to America she couldn't stand watching me crack boiled eggs and throw away the yolk part, just to eat the white part. She said that was incredibly wasteful. She was raised in the capital of Moldova, Chisinau, but she never had much money. smart a Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/6/2013 4:04:50 PM   Jetmba's Balloon ( as durak mentioned before ) would be like his scrotum, A little wrinkly sack. As peoples can see, jetmba is now having a go at durak. Jetmba argues with anyone who doesn't agree with him. Jetmbas' record of posting is 8 in a row. Ha, ha, ha.. Jetmba is easy meat for me... Ha, ha, ha, ha... I'm imagining Jetmba. coyote at the Karaoke, singing with his 21 year old or the much older 26 year old. " Hey You.. You're a real, Honey child, I'm out of control..... Everytime, I am near you, I become the Wolf-Child, Baby..... And I'm Howlin' for you.... " Ha, ha, ha, ha..... blu_craze Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/6/2013 4:22:05 PM   Naw, I don't need to worry about any of that, non confrontational, anybody can say what they want and it doesn't change who I am. The power if ignoring is strong with this one. haha. But to be honest I did get in an argument on a youtube comment board so I am not innocent. A couple guys were trying to say Jaycee Lee Dugard was a phoney and an victim celebrity and she planned it all from the begging,.. Like an 11 year old girl asked to be kidnapped and raped for 18 years by a sex offender, and his wife and had to give birth twice at age 13 and 15, just so 18 years latter she could right a book about it and make millions. That blew my lid!!!! I hope that girl makes billions for the suffering she went through!!! Talking hateful words toward a girl who went through one of the most horrific experiences possible because of jealousy and greed because she didn't wait a few years to write her book, because California gave her 20 mil because the probation officers checking his house weren't doing there job and actually not checking anything beyond the front door. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/6/2013 4:41:38 PM   No offense, but unless you KNOW Jaycee Lee Dugard personally and/or she is a close family member, its hard to see why that should bother you as much as being personally accused of devious thing like sex tourism, JUST because you have dated a few women, have had a great time and don't consider the people you have met to be "whores" and scammers. Pick a figure from the news and say anything you want about them - I promise I won't take as much offense as I will being accused of something disgusting - especially by completely jealous social misfits. moyarishka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/6/2013 6:16:36 PM   blu_craze, you look just like russian or ukrainian guy, don't change anything! Rick4girl Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/6/2013 6:24:44 PM   jetmba wrote: "Almost universally the guys who do the WORST at Romance Socials are the guys who refuse to wear a suit. A suit is still respected over there. Almost every hotel has shoe shine supplies available because many women will not be seen with men who have scuffy shoes. most hotels have an ironing room - as an Eastern European man of substance wouldn't be caught dead in an unironed shirt." so true. as i said earlier, i probably stick out due to my relaxed attire most of the time but i always have no less than 3 Italian suits with me and perfectly shined shoes for when it counts. The girls love the guys who are dressed sharp and take care of themselves. Be warned, Ukrainian girls will take notice of everything including your hands. Make sure your nails are neatly trimmed and clean too. I always buff mine the day before I leave. Image is important there. lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/6/2013 10:13:00 PM   “I bought a MONTH on VIP status in fiance.com.” “I buy a MONTH of VIP membership for $49.95 so that I can write a few letters and just let a few girls know that I will be in the area. I always get phone number and email addresses and little more. “ "I buy a MONTH of VIP membership for $49.95"... WHEN I use fiance.com. Actually I only used it one time this year. “ Jetmba,,,,,,, did you buy VIP membership for a month??? Duh,,,, I’m knot surr yett!!?? lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/6/2013 11:26:52 PM   “I have having a forum battle against two people who coninually harrass me for being successful.” He gauges his success by how much sex he is getting,,,,, and then ridicules others for not getting it too!! But what he can’t seem to understand,,, is that the “others” just don’t talk about it!! This is a public forum,,,, how low is it,,, to “kiss and tell” or for him, fuxk and tell???? Then,,, when public opinion turns on him,,,, he backpedals,,, almost denying it??? BS!!! “And by the way, not that it is anybody's business - but I have made some 20-25 trips in ten years - and have slept with a total of FOUR women in all of those trips. A sex tourist would like sleep with more than 4 women on a single trip.” For weeks now,,, I have seen every insult he can think of on the forum!! And jetmba is considered to be a respectable senior statesmen??? BS He claims to be defending himself against attacks?? BS When he had that “RIP Iren” thread removed, I was pissed,,, but I didn’t attack publicly,,, I called him a moron in a PM. Then,,, he writes on the forum,,, that if I want a war,,,, he will do it in “Grand style” ??! The next morning, that’s exactly what he did,,, and hasn’t stopped! That next day,, wasn’t the beginning of his attack, nor was removing that thread,,, it started the day he first PM-ed me!!! He hates the comments I have made about danny’s ex’s suicide/death/murder/?,,,,,, well,, how long has that been going on??? It was a preplanned attack,,,, and I guess it has been for danny’s benefit?? Because of Jet’s loss of his son,,,,Jetmba has been overly sensitive or sympathetic for danny and his non-stop decade long war with everyone and anyone. Jet has turned this into a crusade! When it comes to danny,,, I don’t care!!!! If it really bothers him so much,,, he’ll shut up!! But the guy doesn’t learn! Several people have told him to shut up,, and leave his current family out of the forum!! He does the opposite! A man is responsible for the honor of his woman! Not only to protect her physically and mentally,,, but her reputation as well!!! Both Jet and danny don’t understand this!! Danny has bragged about posting a photo online, of one of his deceased loved ones, giving him a BJ!! The last time I was in a strip club,,,,, 10 years or more ago,,, a really ugly stripper offered to give me a BJ for just 5USD!! “I’ll suck it for 5 bucks!!!!” Now,,, anytime I think of danny’s ex,,,, I think of that 5 dollar BJ whore! Danny,,, just how much did you care about your ex??? lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/7/2013 1:46:17 AM   “And by the way, not that it is anybody's business - but I have made some 20-25 trips in ten years - and have slept with a total of FOUR women in all of those trips. A sex tourist would like sleep with more than 4 women on a single trip. “ “So these guys are not ONLY undesired by the women they are pursuing - but they are stupid as well.” To use a term danny likes to use,,,, You know fuxkall about it!!!! I made four trips, 16 to 22 days long! During the time when I’m dating or meeting the women who I made the trip for,,,, 5-1-1or4-1,,,,, I’m not looking at or for other women. I’m actually loyal to them,,,, despite the fact none were worthy of it. Subtracting the days that I had dates, subtract the days that I was sick or laid up with a cracked tooth and an abscess,,, I only had a handful of “free” days!!! So just how much action should I have got in that time????? Don’t guess or assume Juntmba,,,,, you’re batting zero!!! You brag about how successful you are,,, by how much sex you have been getting, and how the women want you,,,, but not me??? Once again,,, you know fuxkall!!! You’ve made 20 to 25 trips,,, and how long were they?? And you’ve had 4 women??? Is this the truth,,, or are you just backpedaling again???? The term “fuxkall” fits you!! Lol While on the long over the ocean flight this last year, I met a woman from Bern, Switzerland. She grew up across the lake in lower Michigan. We talked for hours,,,, we talked during the lights out portion of the flight,,, I actually thought we would get in trouble over it. When the meals came, I held things for her. When we got up to walk around, we watched each other stuff. We both had to use the bathroom,,, I disinfected it and let her use my handy wipes,,, little things a couple would do for each other. When she took a little nap, as soon as she fell asleep she laid her head on my shoulder and grabbed my arm!! I was quite smitten with her in that short time. Towards the end of the flight,,, the flight attendant came up to us and said: You two are such a great couple,,,,, how long have you been married??? Silence! Ah,,,, we’re not married. I said. I then saw the wedding ring on her finger! There was no more talking after that. How old was this woman,, I don’t know, she took good care of herself, but she wasn’t 21!! Jet you are a poor excuse for a human being. You make assumptions constantly, and you are batting zero!!! I’ve dealt with women who have told nothing but lies. Long correspondences that meant absolutely nothing. Women didn’t know my name, if my parents were alive or not, if I had brothers and sisters, what I do for a living. Women who lied about meeting other men, going on vacations, being sick, etc. And the ones that didn’t show up,,, and just how is my personality responsible for this???? Why do I use websites and agencies if I’ve had such bad luck?? I haven’t written a letter on a paid website for a year! I haven’t written to a new girl on a paid website for over two years!!! So how much have I been failing??? I wrote to a couple of women on free sites,,,, they were only interested in vacations. I looked through jet’s favorite website/hookup site,,,, loaded with confirmed scammers and professional escorts!!! Am I ever going back?? Not this year!! I said I would be off of the websites after my last trip,,, one way or another. I made that trip solely to satisfy my curiosity!! I have gone far above what should be expected of me. I’m looking for a decent woman,,,, and I do it by acting decently!!! Jetmba,,, keep telling your lies and absurdities ,,,,, and prove to everyone that you’ve lost it,,, if you ever had “it”?? You wrote this in another post:,,, “Almost universally the guys who do the WORST at Romance Socials are the guys who refuse to wear a suit. A suit is still respected over there. Almost every hotel has shoe shine supplies available because many women will not be seen with men who have scuffy shoes. most hotels have an ironing room - as an Eastern European man of substance wouldn't be caught dead in an unironed shirt.” I took three suits along with me to Moscow! My girl marched or paraded me around downtown Moscow!! I ended up married 9 months later. durak Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/7/2013 2:23:47 AM   @jet: It would seem that you forgot posting publicly about your son, not many weeks ago: http://forum.fiance.com/forum2.asp?Main=ShowTopic&forumid=1&topici d=5869&page=1 The post was dated 26.10.2012 15:08:37 You wrote, "So why do you bring it up?" When I read your post from 26 October, it seemed to me that you were connecting your experience of devastating loss -- and lessons you learned from it -- to your willingness, in your mid 50s, to invest a degree of time and energy into a romance that you know won't last. If I understood correctly, a vital part of your life's journey is colored by the wrenching experience from a few years ago. Quite possibly I understood wrongly. I intended no offense. __________________________________________________________________ You wrote, "If it annoys you so badly" ... My previous post was motivated by concern, not annoyance. A main purpose of this forum, is to provide a resource for men who have in common that we are on a big journey -- one that is often challenging, and once in a while really hurts -- to compare notes, swap stories of successes and failures, and sometimes to offer support. It has happened for me plenty of times, that I was in trouble without quite seeing it. It's looking to me, like you may be in some trouble, without quite seeing it. Bickering on the forum, including yours, does annoy me -- nonetheless, my intuition is that you are one of the Good Guys: my wish for you, is that things will come out OK. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/7/2013 2:58:32 AM   durak: That post was written 4 days after I reentered the forum on 10/22/2012 - or some 462 posts ago (if my estimation is right). I had forgotten it as it was written months ago, in passing, and also as background information. Revisiting it I find that I ALSO wrote "kiwinorth: My son died in 2005. So its not a fresh wound...". "Bickering on the forum, including yours, does annoy me " so your solution to a forum member who is being called a "sex tourist" for simply dating a woman, and enjoying the experience, and who is being double teamed in the forum with a daily barage of name calling and accusations, is to go after HIM, the guy under attack, with a dig into a tragedy from his past. Interesting way to show concern. Not unlike the New York woman who showed concern for the victims of 9/11 recently by throwing a HINDU man off the subway platform and under an oncoming train. I guess "showing concern" is whatever you want it to be. durak Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/7/2013 2:59:04 AM   To jetmba, part 2: In late 2009, along the way of searching (pretty damn seriously) for a life partner, I met a too-young woman, with whom I had some crazy big chemistry. At first, I maintained a sensible resolve: because there was no future with her, the encounter was only a wild adventure. A few weeks before that adventure, I had made online contact with a mother of a young child, whom I saw as quite a good prospect. I devoted the winter and part of spring to communication with her, and a meeting in Russia. When things with her abruptly fell apart in mid-2010, I reconnected with Too-Young as a way to "console myself." Over time, this led to my falling head-over-heels with her, and hoping against all reason that she and I might make a life together. Twice I said "proshai" ('goodbye', not 'so long') to her, before at last truly closing the door last spring. By then, more than two years had gone by without my making any new contacts -- that is, without taking any action to find the woman who will create a family with me. I know from vivid experience how thrilling and intoxicating it can be, to dally with a flirtatious and lively woman young enough to be my daughter. I don't regret the experience. At the same time, I felt a genuine sense of shock when I saw how far I had wandered from pursuit of my true dream. It happens that you and I are the same age -- an age at which I feel keenly the nearness of Father Time. When in October, I read your words, "In each of my recent trips - I have started with a single goal in mind of finding the one to marry," and then read how things had actually played out for you, I thought of my personal experience. I offer up my story, in the spirit of friendship. If you or some other man may find some worth in it, I would be pleased. All the best! jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/7/2013 3:14:43 AM   durak: So your concern in all of this is the fact that I happen to be dating a woman, who's company I enjoy (as she enjoys mine) but happens to be (admittedly) too young for me, in my private life. And that has to be stopped at all costs. We CAN'T have two adult people enjoying each other's company, if the age difference makes individual members of this forum uncomfortable. Because I am not to be enjoying life, but I am obliged to look for one to marry as that was my original intention, and I am to be held to it. Its not the (again I mention) daily barrage of name calling "sex tourist", "whore monger", ect. that I endure, or that the "whores", "scammers", "prostitutes" (Looney draws a definition distinction between "whores" and "prostitutes" all his own) name calling and attacks that are aimed toward women of Ukraine? Interesting. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/7/2013 3:20:49 AM   I remind you durak, that since the death of my son, eight years ago, I have had TWO serious relationships, one that I was in the midst of at the time of the occurance, and another since then. And that I ONLY chose the frivolous, but nevertheless altogether FUN pursuit of a much too young lady in 2012. It seems I waited quite a while to "console" myself. durak Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/7/2013 3:34:03 AM   Well alrighty then jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/7/2013 3:48:19 AM   durak: I am not as aware of your history as you seem to be of mine, but I HAVE been married. I have passed my seed and my last name to my surviving son, who is a very successful and contributing member of society. If anything I am a bit LATE in "sowing my wild oats" as I was a husband and father at the age of 19. She was my first serious girlfriend. And we were on the verge of breaking up when we discovered her pregnancy. I had signed the lease on a new, seperate apartment, just for me - and was to tell her on the exact same night that she told me she was pregnant. My upbringing dictated that I marry her - there were no two ways about it. So the very next day, I went back to the real estate agent I had signed the lease with, and asked if he would be willing to tear it up in return for me signing a lease for a more family oriented apartment. He was willing. For the next 21 years I met my obligations, knowing full well that this person, my spouse, was not the one for me. Having met my familial obligations, I am still working, and still enjoying life, as I have the RIGHT to do. As I have mentioned several times, I have no particular trouble attracting women anywhere, though they do tend to be older in the US. When father time makes his "last call" announcement, I am quite certain I will be able to find someone to grow old with. I am simple enjoying the very last of the summer wine now. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/7/2013 7:36:09 AM   Looney: I am GLAD it made you angry that I insisted that the "Irina Tamara RIP" thread come down. I wouldn't do something like that to even my worst enemy. Thats right Looney - I wouldn't do something like that even to you. That your hatred for Danny doesn't let you see how terrible and digusting that was hows you have NO class, NO morals, NO personality - you are simply a low life piece of trash. That you flirted with a woman on an airline and made the stewardess think you were married - THAT constitutes a success with you? I can't even add anything to that. That says it all. How can I tell you what a loser you are if you consider that to be one of your greatest successes? MARRIAGE is not the thing that determines success of failure in Ukraine. Because the WORST outcome you can have is to get married to the wrong woman. And ANYBODY can do that. What determines success or failure in Ukraine is #1. Are you establishing meaningful relationships that you feel good about without BUYING them? And #2. Can you not wait to return? For ME the answer to both of those questions is a definite and unequivical YES. While for you its NO. Therefore I am a success and YOU (because you keep getting beaten up by your nonexistant relationships) are a FAILURE. Regarding the number of women I have slept with - my story has NEVER "backslid". YOU just made wild accusations and ridiculous assumptions that you convinced YOURSELF were true. You whipped yourself into a frenzie about how many women I have been with. Not the first time you made stupid and wild accusations I am sure. I bet you do it every day. Looney says: "I’ve dealt with women who have told nothing but lies. Long correspondences that meant absolutely nothing. Women didn’t know my name, if my parents were alive or not, if I had brothers and sisters, what I do for a living. Women who lied about meeting other men, going on vacations, being sick, etc. And the ones that didn’t show up,,, and just how is my personality responsible for this????" THATS WHY you don't write letters! How many time do I have to tell you that. NOBODY can look me in the eye and tell me things like that without me knowing they are lying, NOBODY is that good at acting. That is why I ALWAYS meet girls for the first time in person! If somebody is lying (and people always try) I am able to detect it. THATS why YOU keep getting taken and I don't. Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Maybe I should seek professional help...
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