WS,, you can do your search the way you want, and it isn’t necessary for you to understand mine.
I’ve LEARNED from experience about the type of woman I want to marry,,, and more importantly, about the ones I don’t! It isn’t about not trusting women that like sex,,,, it more about how much they are willing to lie about it. A girl in Nikolaev is a good example of this,,, in her letters she never met with a foreign man,,, but in person she talks about “ALL” of the other men before me were only looking for “fun & games”,,,,,, and that she hadn’t had sex for 4 months?! We corresponded for about a year. She had a big smile on her face when we first met, and was very happy to meet me,,,,,,, and she was expecting another guy who just wanted fun & games??
She was so surprised that I was sincere,,,, then got nervous and started drinking. A drink in one hand,,, rubbing my cock with the other,,,, for about 6 hours,,, and most of that time was in a public place. Now,,, believe it or not,, I actually like a frisky girl, but not when they can’t stand up on their own. Our date turned into a night of babysitting. I won’t leave a defenseless woman behind to fend for herself.
I couldn’t bring this woman over for two reasons. First,, she can’t handle her liquor,, she was staggering after just two drinks,,,, and had eight in all. Second,,,, she gets pretty loose after two drinks,,,, could I ever let her out on her own at a bar?? No way! This is the woman that “threw herself” at me,,,,,, actually “airborne” in the air,,, and topless! Then my cell phone rang,,,, the interp for the Odessa girl. Back to the bar we go,,,,, no score!
I’ve only dropped one other girl that I had an extensive correspondence with for being a little too promiscuous. We never met,,,, but she liked a little pillow talk occasionally,,,, spoke highly about the special effects of parsley on men. Ukrainian aphrodisiac?? Or endurance extender?
([Pre-12th century. Via late Latin petrosilium < Greek petroselinon < petra "rock" + selinon "parsley"] )
Her job took her around Ukraine several times a year,,,, but she would write to me saying that she was going to northern cities for her job,,,,, then weeks later spoke about the fun time she had on the beaches in southern Ukr. And would go on to describe the great guys there,,,, and the romantic evenings. People on both sides of these websites are “suppose” to be looking for their mates,,,, seeking marriage. If a woman is still writing to me after we met,,,,, getting some “on the side” is a deal breaker!!
I haven’t put any restrictions or limitations on women during the correspondence, before a 1st meeting. But at the end of the 1st trip,,, if I am interested in her,, I tell her so and ask if she feels the same way about me. Two have said: YES,,,, and another was very interested,,, but we didn’t have time for a long talk. A story for another time.
I asked the two if they were serious about moving towards marriage with me,,,, no proposals,,,, just me wanting to know their intent!! It was a big YES!
Now,,, everyone here knows it was nothing but lies,,, they were not serious or genuine,,, but if they had been,,,, getting some on the side while I was away,,,,, is a deal breaker!!!
How can anyone serious about marriage,, think any other way????
I made a huge mistake with my 1st marriage,,,, I wasn’t seeing clearly! Underwear and a zipper obstructed the view!!!
Well. lonelyranger, like I have said, you have been looking in the wrong places and the wrong women. I have never had experiences remotely like the ones you have been describing in your postings.
Aren't you asking to be lied to if you are questioning them about other foreign men and the sex they have had? When you are exchanging correpondence and even when you go to see them, if they ask you whether you are talking to and seeing other Ukrainian girls, what do you say?
The nearest to what you describe was a lady, a few years ago, who I spent the new year celebrations with. She was young and did not know how to drink. I bought a bottle of champagne and the drink quickly went to her head, she got sick. We were in a club attached to my hotel. I took her to my room and left her there and went to the hotel reception going back regularly to the room to check she was OK, until the morning.
We did not have sex on that trip and I later invited her to spend one month with me. She did like sex then (I think she was also a bit desperate for it) but did not drink during the whole month she was with me.
I agree that at the point where you are officially boyfriend/girlfriend both should stop seeing and even talking to other people.
The girl I talked about before, who was proposed on the second day the other man went to see her, had been talking to me when the other man was telling her he was going to see her. On the day that he was travelling there, both removed their profiles from the dating site. Then she told me she only wanted to continue to communicate with me as friends. On the fourth day of his visit there, she cut me off from Skype, the only means of communication we had. That is fine in my book.
“Aren't you asking to be lied to if you are questioning them about other foreign men and the sex they have had? When you are exchanging correspondence and even when you go to see them, if they ask you whether you are talking to and seeing other Ukrainian girls, what do you say? “
No,,,, I’m asking not to be lied to!! I don’t make any demands or restrictions of the women in the correspondence leading up to a 1st meeting,,, I have no right to. But if things went well, and we like each other, then I want to know if we are exclusive or am I just a name on a long list?? An agency girl will resist that question!! If she is still playing the field while talking marriage with me,,,, I won’t waste a trip on her. Either she really likes me,,,, or she real-ly don’t?!
Questioning them about sex?? I think that was initiated by the women each time?! If they ask me personal questions,,,, they have to expect the same in return.
The “Date from Hell” told me it had been 4 months since she last had sex,,, then asked me if I ever slept with prostitutes,,,, while on our way to my hotel room???
That other girl that I dropped before meeting, was on the horny and hungry side. She really wanted to meet me, but I can only leave home for long periods during late fall and early winter. It was her changing stories and talk about other men that turned me off.
While on my 2011 trip, I brought a shopping bag from the chain store that she worked at, back to my hotel room,,, took a picture of it along with my passport (closed) and I think plane tickets. I then emailed them to her. Less than 5 minutes later, my phone rings,,,, it was her! Now,, I’ve always had a thing for their voice and accent,,,, but hers’ freaked me out! A really low voice for a woman,,,, does anyone remember “Natasha” from the “Rocky and Bullwinkle Show”?? Yeah,, it was like that! Waking up every morning to,,,,,,,,, Good morning darling,,,,, augh!!!!!
You still have not answered the question: If an honest woman asks you if you have been talking to other women, what do you say? I don't ask them if they have been talking to other men so as not to have to confront the same question.
However, as I said before, it is only when both of you are an item that you both should commit to even talking to each other only.
"While on my 2011 trip, I brought a shopping bag from the chain store that she worked at, back to my hotel room,,, took a picture of it along with my passport (closed) and I think plane tickets. I then emailed them to her. Less than 5 minutes later, my phone rings,,,, it was her! Now,, I’ve always had a thing for their voice and accent,,,, but hers’ freaked me out! A really low voice for a woman,,,, does anyone remember “Natasha” from the “Rocky and Bullwinkle Show”?? Yeah,, it was like that! Waking up every morning to,,,,,,,,, Good morning darling,,,,, augh!!!!!"
WS,,, Well,,, so far, an honest woman has never asked me anything in the FSU, as I have never found one!!
But of the ones I have met, if they ask me something,,,,, anything, I tell them the truth.
“Really no idea what all this is about.”
Being dense seems to be a permanent state for you,,,, so let’s just leave it that way!!
"If an honest woman asks you if you have been talking to other women, what do you say? I don't ask them if they have been talking to other men so as not to have to confront the same question."
Tell them the truth, but not the details. If she wants the details, fine. That is how they have been towards me. They said yes and I left it at that.
lonelyranger, OK if you want to get personal, you do have problems communicating in the English language and in general. This could be the reason for the problems you have had with the FSU women.
lonely (underlined), as I remember it was you who came to answer my posting in the first place, then when you don't like the answers you call people stalkers, in the case of the Ukrainian ladies you meet, you replace the word stalker with scammer
Stalking? When Danny "stalked", he included your family, but he clearly was making things up. When Rasputin stalks, he includes your family and he has clearly stalked. Just as he is ready to strike in the forum, you know he is ready to strike for real.
WS,,, you asked some questions and I had the answers to them,,,, so I posted the info. But you’re one of those nit-pickers,,, just like danny. He was/is like a retarded and dyslexic pit bull,,, finds something and doesn’t let go.
Rb,,,, danny had many profile names that everyone knew about,,, but he also had dozens of bogus profiles.
His normal pattern is like this: Hey, I’m new to the forum and to FSU dating, and I have some questions!
The questions all seem to be aimed towards me,,,, so I reply,, reluctantly.
Then, he is a professional (overnight) on the subject,,, and knows exactly what MY problem is??
Danny also had several favorite lines,,,,,, he just harped on them constantly. WS is repeating three of them.
I used to get a lot of PM(s) from new members asking for help, some never sent a reply back while others kept pm-ing,, most wanting to extract info of a personal nature. Since the danny42 profile was removed, I have received NONE from new members!!
Now I’m sure a few people are thinking,,, that removing his real profile wouldn’t stop the bogus ones?? True!! But this forum is all he had in his life,, don’t you think his Pc or I-phone went flying when they removed his profile.
lonelyranger, do you realise that you paranoid, insolent and ignorant attitude must be what makes you fail with FSU women? A number of women I have talked to, who have complained about annoying men always accusing and suspecting them of something, are precisely talking about men like you.
Just like you accuse me of being this Danny, with no proof or basis, is the same way you think of all FSU women as time wasters and scammers with no justification.
It is men like you who cause me trouble when asking questions to these ladies after they have been through a number of men like you.
I would not doubt for a second that you have also insulted them calling them cockroach, thief as well as liars and scammers.
"The questions all seem to be aimed towards ME" enough said
WS:
“with no proof or basis, is the same way you think of all FSU women as time wasters and scammers with no justification.”
You really are dense,,, “NO PROOF?????” What about the women that had local boyfriends??? What about all of the lies??
“I would not doubt for a second that you have also insulted them calling them cockroach, thief as well as liars and scammers.”
I have ALWAYS been a gentlemen with them,,, even when I wasn’t believing their story. I haven’t called them anything in person?
“”Pothetic”” HELLO DANNY!! “granny?“ Another bogus profile,,,, I’m counting four of them now!!
Rb,,, you are forgetting all of the stalking, harassment, and threats towards nasfan!! Danny went after his wife and kids. Nasfan wrote on the forum that he would:,,,, “Shoot him fing dead” if he ever showed up at his door. Nasfan is one of at least three, that made that promise!!
Lonely, think about it this way: honest women are not attracted to someone with your attitude, scammers will talk to you as they know they will not end up with you. That is why you always end up with the latter. I do not see in your stories that you have had a relationship with an honest woman.
"Rb,,, you are forgetting all of the stalking, harassment, and threats towards nasfan!! Danny went after his wife and kids. Nasfan wrote on the forum that he would:,,,, “Shoot him fing dead” if he ever showed up at his door. Nasfan is one of at least three, that made that promise!!"
I honestly do not remember that. I do not condone shooting anyone except for self defense.