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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Euromaidan Author Post durak Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/14/2013 5:47:44 PM   I was on the phone today with a friend in Kyiv, talking about the political upheaval, when a vehicle drove by with a loudspeaker inviting one and all to come to Sunday's demonstration. rb, at souvenir stands in Russia, one item I've seen offered for sale, for as long as I've been traveling to Russia, are tee-shirts with the iconic image of Lenin's face in profile superimposed on the "golden arches" logo, saying McLenin or McLenin's. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/14/2013 10:51:13 PM   I think I remember those t-shirts in Kiev, Durak. I thought I could get funny t-shirts anywhere, so I got the "Ukraine" t-shirts in English and Russian. The significance of taking the Lenin statue down is it is the first one they took down. They have taken down other Soviet hero statues. This is the first Lenin statue they took down. At least so far, President Obama and Secretary Kerry has not done anything, but Senator McCain has. The opposition is hinting he may be a speaker in tomorrow's protests. http://goo.gl/7UPZqF ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/15/2013 6:25:25 PM   McCain spoke: "People of Ukraine, this is your moment. This is about you, no one else. This is about the future you want for your country. This is about the future you deserve," he said to loud cheers and chants of "Thank you." "A future in Europe, a future of peace, with all of your neighbors. The free world is with you, America is with you, I am with you." Still, I see no progress. Ukraine Prime Minister Mykola Azarov is moving towards improved trade relations with Russia and the EU halted work on the agreement with Ukraine. It was good to see McCain there, but he echoed the same rhetoric that Kerry did: sanctions. Years of sanctions have not helped in Iran nor North Korea. http://goo.gl/Y77ZgE lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/23/2013 11:54:40 PM   http://news.yahoo.com/kiev-anti-government-protest-draws-100-000-135921135.html http://news.yahoo.com/russia-moves-nuclear-capable-missiles-closer-eu-1 54828459.html http://news.yahoo.com/rifle-designer-mikhail-kalashnikov- dead-94-163848393.html lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 12/27/2013 2:06:57 AM   http://news.yahoo.com/us-condemns-violence-against-protesters-journalists-ukrain e-005925798.html lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/19/2014 9:59:58 PM   Things seem to be getting worse. Has anyone been to Kiev since the protests began? http://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-protests-turn-fiery-street-ba ttles-211927510.html lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/25/2014 1:17:36 AM   http://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-protests-resemble-medieval-battle-140629552.html < br> Somewhat related. http://travel.yahoo.com/blogs/compass/coldest-city-earth-people-sti ll-choose-live-233629236.html sunvolt Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/25/2014 8:14:58 PM   LR, Which protest you talking about))) . I was on Kreshatyk Street in 2004 with my ex-girlfriend at the start of all this . I still have my orange tossel,t-shirt and scarf that says TAK and (something)else on it. Check your pm. lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/26/2014 10:37:15 PM   When a government doesn’t represent the people, you can expect such turmoil. I wonder how long it will be before we have such protests here. Every time I turn on the TV,,, I hope to hear one thing,,,, and it hasn’t happened in my lifetime,,,, just so! We sure do need change! Juffles Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/27/2014 8:32:08 PM   Sunvolt: "Which protest you talking about? I was on Kreshatyk Street in 2004... at the start of all this. I still have my orange t-shirt..." Sunvolt, do you not receive international news in your country? The current civil unrest that LR refers to is not connected with nor a continuation of the 'Orange Revolution' of 2004 - which was brought on by the authorities' attempt to rig the 2004 presidential elections, corruption, and state media restrictions (orange being the colour of the main opposition movement). The recent protests started on 21st November 2013, when Ukraine announced it will not sign a deal strengthening ties with the EU. (President Viktor Yanukovych wanted substantial compensation from the EU as he said that existing trade with Russia would be affected, but the EU leaders refused.) Juffles Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/27/2014 8:36:16 PM   For anyone who is interested, here are three BBC news videos from today, 27th January. I recommend clicking on the 'full screen' button: http://goo.gl/K2IDNH http://goo.gl/MA3OXt htt p://goo.gl/swr6q4 20th January: http://goo.gl/kC9ggy Here is a fascinating video filmed from the police side of the battle. Protesters will not thank me for this. But in the cause of showing both sides... http://goo.gl/lzZ6XA And here is an example why the police are hated so much: http://goo.gl/NLeULv ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/28/2014 12:23:43 PM   The big question is how does this affect travel? Unfortunately, the bad news makes it to the top. Having seen news reports, this no doubt will curtail travel. There are 8 places of protests other than Kiev. The advice I was given is to avoid the centers of the cities. Other parts are business as usual. lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/28/2014 2:20:43 PM   http://news.yahoo.com/breakfast-buffet-rebellion-welcome-hotel-ukraina-173953363 .html http://news.yahoo.com/putin-stand-ukraine-commitments-175435099-- finance.html http://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-39-concessions-come-too-sati sfy-protesters-163815372.html http://news.yahoo.com/putin-39-criminal-o lympics-104500746--politics.html lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/31/2014 1:13:57 AM   http://goo.gl/NLeULv JF I watched this link, and it was a good one. I think sunvolt knows there has been more than one protest,,,, that’s why he’s asking: “Which one??” Juffles Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/31/2014 10:44:04 AM   Whatever one's opinions of Ukrainians may be, with recent events they have to be admired for their brave endurance and determination for a change of system. In Kiev today, 31st Jan., the daytime temperature is -13'C. Night time will be -18'C, and these have been the weather conditions throughout January so far. Many have been on the streets for twelve days now during the most violent scenes, and some since late November with the predominantly peaceful demonstrations. I have been in regular contact with someone who has been actively protesting in two cities, and she sends photos, videos and email reports daily. I have explained to her the disadvantages and benefits of any partnership with the EU, compared to closer links with Russia. But after weeks of news and analysis, it seems the majority have no special attachment to either Russia or Western Europe: they just want an end to rampant corruption, and expect normal human rights and opportunities available to all other European citizens (except Belarusians and Moldovans). If they succeed at removing President Viktor Yanukovych from power (remembering that his Prime Minister and entire cabinet resigned on the 28th, anti-protest laws repealed, and a conditional amnesty for arrested protesters), then the Belarusian leaders must be quaking in their boots too. LR, this BBC news-video is also about police brutality. They even humiliate some captured protesters when making arrests in the streets by stripping them naked in -10'C. http://goo.gl/2eRkaE ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/31/2014 10:45:46 AM   Protester is forced to strip and pose naked in -10 Celcius temperature. http://goo.gl/URszdk lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/31/2014 10:37:24 PM   If people from other countries ever wonder why we Americans hold on to our guns so tightly,,,,, they need to look at the link and video! In the video, people are watching the police brutalize the guy from on top of a ridge,,,, and are doing nothing. Juffles Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/1/2014 1:55:09 PM   Appalling police brutality, videoed by a witness, uploaded early December. 'Riot police', or state sponsored thugs? (Change 'settings' to see in 720p HD quality.) http://goo.gl/fJO4Zy For an abbreviated, less explicit version with English news commentary. (But the commentator is wrong about the man lying in the street being beaten by three passing policemen - I can see at least seven in the unedited version above.) http://goo.gl/zC8LT8 durak Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/2/2014 1:26:20 PM   @sunvolt: They were still selling them when I made my second visit to Ukraine in 2005. They said "TAK YUSHCHENKO". "Tak" literally means "so" or "such"; in this phrase it translates to "Yes Yushchenko" Yushchenko was the guy who won the 2004 election (after it was re-run to combat the ballot-box stuffing of the first election), against Kremlin stooge Yanukovich: the same Kremlin stooge who is running things now. For those who don't remember the history, Yushchenko's face is severely pock-marked since he survived an assassination attempt made with industrial-strength poison (dioxin) during that 2004 election process. Such are politics in Ukraine. sunvolt Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 2/2/2014 8:24:25 PM   Juffles ,everyone else caught my humor except you )) Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Euromaidan
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