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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > The Economics of the Crimean Invasion Author Post RodanTsunami Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/1/2014 10:12:56 PM   The pension of a man I am aware of has gone from @880 hyrvina to @1350 hyrivna the devaluation of the hyrivna is 8.05 to the dollar to 11.60 to the dollar which means no difference. Today the ruble is the only currency allowed to be tendered. A few months ago you could use just about any currency except the neighboring Moldovan ley. The Bolsheviks are certainly looking out for the well being of everyone, glupyye trakhayet lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/4/2014 2:37:27 AM   http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2014-06-03/will-putin-pay-90-billion-for-c rimea?cmpid=yhoo RodanTsunami Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/21/2014 12:46:51 AM   To make an economic and political statement, the European Union, America, Korea and Japan should pay off the 2 killer ships being built in France and scuttle them fight on top of the Bismarck. Behave as a Nazi sink'em like a Nazi. RodanTsunami Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/21/2014 12:48:39 AM   "right" on top of the Bismarck RodanTsunami Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/23/2014 9:20:03 AM   In Crimea the news has a women interviewed who had brought 25 kilos of potatoes from the mainland through the "Maginot Line" and Russian control point. She was not allowed to bring them into Crimea. She told the officer the potatoes were to feed her family. She had to drive back into Ukraine mainland and dump the food. 1933 revisited, stave the proletariat into submission. lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/25/2014 12:41:06 AM   ttp://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/25/world/europe/russia-ukraine.html?smid=fb-share &_r=0 MOSCOW — President Vladimir V. Putin said Tuesday that a temporary cease-fire in Ukraine should be extended, just hours after he called on the upper house of Russia’s Parliament to rescind a March resolution authorizing the use of his country’s armed forces there. Both moves came as the United States and some European leaders warned that Russia faced a third, stiffer round of economic sanctions, specifically targeting sectors like banking and high technology, if it did not do more to end the Ukraine crisis. European leaders are set to discuss the sanctions during a summit meeting in Brussels on Friday. In eastern Ukraine, the cease-fire unexpectedly accepted by pro-Russian separatists on Monday night proved shaky, with a spokesman for the Ukrainian armed forces accusing the rebels of shooting down a military helicopter, killing all nine people aboard. The Mi-8 helicopter was carrying equipment and specialists to monitor the cease-fire near the rebel-held city of Slovyansk, a hotbed of resistance, when it was struck by a missile fired from a portable air defense system, said Vladislav Seleznyov, the spokesman, in a statement posted online. Speaking in Vienna, President Vladimir V. Putin said that a weeklong truce announced Friday by President Petro O. Poroshenko of Ukraine was insufficient. Credit Bernadett Szabo/Reuters The attack on the helicopter took place in the hills around the town of Karachun on the outskirts of Slovyansk, Mr. Seleznyov said. The rebel militia in Slovyansk is run by a shadowy military commander named Igor Strelkov, who was not present at negotiations on the cease-fire in the eastern city of Donetsk on Monday evening. But an aide to the prime minister of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic said in an interview that Mr. Strelkov was aware of the temporary truce. Maintaining a truce could prove tough. There is minimal trust between the government in Kiev, the capital, and the patchwork of militias and rebellious political organizations that have laid siege to eastern Ukraine. Earlier Tuesday, Mr. Seleznyov said in an interview that rebels had continued using mortars to attack several government checkpoints near Slovyansk. He said there had been isolated fighting near the border between Russia and Ukraine as well. Two soldiers were killed in the clashes, he said. At the United Nations, Ivan Simonovic, the assistant secretary-general for human rights, told a Security Council briefing on Tuesday that 423 people, including soldiers and civilians, had died in the conflict in east Ukraine from April 15 to June 7. Speaking in Vienna, Mr. Putin said that a weeklong cease-fire announced by President Petro O. Poroshenko of Ukraine on Friday and accepted by the separatists was insufficient. He said he had told Ukraine, “To declare a cease-fire is not enough; it is necessary to start substantive talks on the nature of the problem.” Mr. Putin said declaring a cease-fire and asking the rebels to disarm without addressing their long-term political grievances would yield nothing. The separatists want increased autonomy for Donetsk and Luhansk, and the government has said it is amenable to changes in the Constitution, though whether that will be enough to satisfy their opponents is an open question. “If we see there are substantive talks, so that people in eastern Ukraine can finally understand how their legal interests will be guaranteed, then there is a high possibility of success,” Mr. Putin said at a news conference. Mr. Putin said he was pleased by the first contacts on Monday between the Kiev authorities and the rebel representatives of Donetsk and Luhansk. “No big agreements were reached, but the fact that the dialogue has begun is a highly important moment,” he said. The Russian president listed some of his standard complaints about Ukraine, including that it had not done enough to disarm a rabidly anti-Russian group called Right Sector. Without that, Mr. Putin said, it did not make sense to call on the militias in the east to disarm. Mr. Putin was in Vienna to help push for a new, southern route for Russian gas exports in the face of European opposition. Russia is seeking alternative routes for its troubled pipeline to Europe through Ukraine, with the Ukrainian portion of the exports again shut down over pricing and political disputes. Before Mr. Putin left for Vienna, his spokesman, Dmitri S. Peskov, issued a statement saying that Mr. Putin had sent a formal request to the Federation Council, the upper house of Russia’s Parliament, to rescind what was tantamount to an endorsement to invade Ukraine passed on March 1. Russia used its military that month to annex Crimea, at the time a Ukrainian region, and there has been tension over a possible similar move in the troubled southeastern region of Ukraine. In his statement, Mr. Peskov said the move to rescind the authorization was “aimed at normalizing the situation in the eastern regions of Ukraine.” The changed position was largely symbolic: Mr. Putin can get whatever he needs from Parliament at any time, and members of the upper house said it would make the change on Wednesday. But the change was one step requested by the United States and other Western powers to indicate that Moscow was serious in seeking a negotiated solution in Ukraine. It came after a rough deal was worked out Monday involving all sides for a temporary cease-fire lasting through Friday. Russia had been pressuring Ukraine to talk directly to the rebels, and Mr. Putin’s public move to take the Russian armed forces out of the equation was evidently a means to endorse the first results from the talks. In Kiev, Mr. Poroshenko issued a statement calling the move by Mr. Putin “the first practical step” by Moscow to resolve the crisis in the east since the Rus kaiserdag Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/25/2014 1:45:21 AM   ALL WARS ARE BANKERS WARS! http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/allwarsarebankerwars.ph p "I know many people have a great deal of difficulty comprehending just how many wars are started for no other purpose than to force private central banks onto nations," Yes money may have stop Putin on his track, for now! Because is bad economics for RU and Krym... But a bunch oh ragheads in Syria and Iraq are economically bad for everybody else.... Eventually Ukraine will began a EU member and maybe a NATO member without Krym... kaiserdag Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/27/2014 4:32:21 AM   BREAKING NEWS ------"Ukraine's President signs cooperation agreement with EU, the same deal whose reversal set off a crisis in the nation." -- CNN www.cnn.com After that NATO treaty RodanTsunami Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/27/2014 11:30:37 PM   "Crimea Minister of Culture Accuses Kiev of Theft of Scythian Gold" The truth and reality, it is just sitting in escrow in Kiev, protected from the thieves that occupy Crimea, Ukraine's assets and absconded to Russia. If it was returned to the museum in Simferopol, it would soon be in St. Petersburg gone forever. Yanukovych,,,,, go home to Ukraine, your people wait your homecoming. lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/4/2014 3:26:37 AM   http://qz.com/229378/sanctions-or-not-putin-is-under-attack-by-forces-that-no-on e-controls/ poppy Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/4/2014 11:45:43 AM   wife watches Russian news with a tear in her eye why don't you Ukraine government loving anti Russians watch Russian news and see what exactly the Ukraine government are doing to your beloved Ukrainian people . durak Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/5/2014 11:55:37 AM   We don't watch Russian news, because it broadcasts exactly what Putin directs. I'm sincerely sorry that she is so distressed, but part of what brings her to tears are falsehoods. I suggest: www.hromadske.tv www.svoboda.org And for God's sake, turn of Russian TV! durak Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/5/2014 4:47:28 PM   I meant to type, turn off Russian TV. And I am serious about this. Russian TV is so warped, perverse and distorted that my closest Russian-speaking friend decided to disconnect his Russian TV series years ago. Even worse, his elderly father watches Russian TV incessantly, and my friend saw that the crazy-world depicted there was making his dad extremely anxious. Having Russian TV in your house, is like connecting a sewer pipe flowing the wrong direction. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/5/2014 4:58:37 PM   "Having Russian TV in your house, is like connecting a sewer pipe flowing the wrong direction." LOL. I haven't heard that expression before. durak Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/5/2014 5:28:36 PM   CRIMEA IS NOT ACTUALLY A "GHOST TOWN" WITH TUMBLEWEEDS BLOWING ALONG ITS STREETS However, tourism (a mainstay of Crimea's generally very weak economy) is down 35% from last year. This, despite the Russian government aggressively encouraging Russians to vacation there (for example, by cutting airfares from Moscow by half). First, most Crimean tourism is by Ukrainians, many of whom don't want to vacation there under the Russian boot heel. Second, Russians have other destinations (as was already mentioned here) -- they can go to Russia's legitimate Black Sea coast, to Turkey, or to Egypt, and get better value for their rubles. Third, a lot of Russians are too poor to fly, even with reduced airfare. To get to Crimea without flying, their choices are (A) agonizingly long ferry trips, or (B) surface transportation through a country called Ukraine, which according to their lying Russian TV, is a terrifying hell of Nazis and indiscriminate bloodshed. This has been devastating to Crimea's tourism industry. One tourism operator said that it was the worst year for tourism since 1970, when there was a cholera epidemic in southern Ukraine. (BTW, what kind of sh*thole has a cholera epidemic in the second half of the 20th century? It just shows how good life was, when Ukraine was still under Russia's enlightened management!) durak Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/5/2014 5:41:09 PM   CRIMEA IS NOW A RUSSIAN PARADISE Crimea's administration (note well, its RUSSIAN administration) has banned Refat Chubarov, head of Crimean Tatars' self-governing national assembly, from entering Crimea. On 24 June, a Crimean Tatar religious school was raided by Russian security officers. Muslims, Jehovah's Witnesses, and Orthodox worshipers at churches of the Kyiv Patriarchate have faced violent attacks, without the the attackers being punished or even identified by Crimean authorities. The Kyiv Patriarchate is effectively being exiled from Crimea. Also, various Islamic texts are banned under Russian law. http://tinyurl.com/qgq9z5e To summarize: Russia claims (literally dozens of times every day) that Ukraine is a Nazi regime that threatens minorities. In reality, minorities are free and safe in Ukraine, but the rights of ethnic and religious minorities are under assault in Russian-occupied Crimea. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/5/2014 6:31:21 PM   Danny and his wife are fooled by Russian TV. Nice summary, durak. "To summarize: Russia claims (literally dozens of times every day) that Ukraine is a Nazi regime that threatens minorities. In reality, minorities are free and safe in Ukraine, but the rights of ethnic and religious minorities are under assault in Russian-occupied Crimea." durak Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/5/2014 6:57:21 PM   There is one saving grace for Crimean Tatars: They are a Turkic people, and the Republic of Turkey is protective toward its relatives. Turkey can close the Bosphorus Strait to Russia's ships, and has made it clear that it will do so if Russia mistreats the Tatar population of Crimea. poppy Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/6/2014 11:06:17 AM   well I believe Russia way before I would trust American tv and the Ukraine government are nazi ...... rb who elected this government ? the Ukraine people ? ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 7/7/2014 1:00:59 AM   There is not evidence of any Ukrainian mistreatment of Russian speakers before the Russian troops went to the Ukrainian border. The Russians created this war with a one sided view filled with lies. There are atrocities on both sides. Believe what you want to, Danny. Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > The Economics of the Crimean Invasion
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