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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Need to know when to stop and cut your losses Author Post TomZ Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/4/2015 7:24:47 AM   There's lots of beautiful places in Ukraine such as the Carpathian Mountains or the Crimean Coast. The historic towns of Kyiv and Lviv, the list goes on. I can tell you've never been to those places MartinPC because you've probably never been outside the touristy places, if you've been here at all. And there are plenty of travellers here. In fact I'd say most of them are not looking for women at all. So I don't know where you get your 'facts' but they certainly are not based in reality. Yes, Ukraine is a beautiful country and I am sure the beautiful women of Ukraine can agree. MartinPC Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/4/2015 7:54:13 AM   TomZ, Last I checked "Crimean Coast" wasn't actually accessible from Ukraine ... But what would I know from this remote Pacific island? Never been to Carpatian mountains? ... LOL ... When I had my own aviation business I was a consultant to the airline "Carpatair" ... Now go figure where the "Carpat" comes from! Touristy places? ... LOL ... I spent much of my time in Zaporozyhe ... the industrial smog that floats over that shithole ... Yes, definitely touristy :) FeelingStupid Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/4/2015 9:43:46 AM   LR, OK I see what you mean. Man I am sorry, but I didnt mean a physical sign. She had on her vk page a picture posted.. and on the vk page as the discription of the picture she posted she said some comment like "here I come". I have been thinking the same thing you mentioned.. They have seen it all.. are good at it.. etc. etc. As I said.. I spoke to a friend of hers... her friend only knew her for a few months so she couldt really answer everything I asked. However she gave me her detailed schedule of her flight. I checked my message log... and it matches to the letter. Every day several messages.. the day of her flight one message like 6 hours before her flight... then nothing.. then 2 days later.. beck to the normal daily letters. Either Boris and Gia are coordinating their every move together.. or she may be .... dare I say it.. real. I dont know what to say... I think it is unlikely being fake to be able to cover yourself in such detail. Boris has been chatting with me while Gia was overseas. So I requested the site to check the IP addess her messages originates from. Still waiting on the site. This will be undeniably proof either way. If the messages are from anywhere but that specific location Gia is... then I am dealing with Boris. I will keep you posted. FeelingStupid Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/4/2015 9:45:40 AM   Guys seriously. Stop quarreling like teenage girls. This is helping no one! TomZ Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/4/2015 1:06:06 PM   You know when to stop and cut your losses when you need to ask the question "Need to know when to stop and cut your losses" Rick4girl Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/4/2015 10:09:38 PM   LR wrote : "Kyiv might be busy, but southern and eastern cities are suffering" tourism is down some in the south compared to pre-war but its not as bad as you suggest. clubs are still busy, people still eat out and shop because those who could do all these things before can still do them. the only people hurting worse are those already poor. for them the situation is really bad. People ARE starving. And YES Martin, Ukraine IS beautiful! MartinPC Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/5/2015 8:43:06 AM   Ricky, I have travelled to SO MANY countries I wouldn't like to even start listing them for fear of being accused of bragging. Perhaps the least beautiful country I visited was Uzbekistan, but I considered it to be beautiful at the time because I was there for "woman" purposes, I guess the 2nd least beautiful country I've travelled to is Ukraine. Ricky ... You've got two heads, the one between your legs and the one attached to your neck ... try thinking with the latter for a change :) TomZ Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/5/2015 12:48:04 PM   Uzbekistan has to be the shithole of shitholes. Russia used to send it's people there to populate. The only thing lower might be Kazakhstan but that's debateable. You see those weird Asian faces in both countries. A mix of Caucasian and Asian. Uzbekistan is one of those bride napping countries. Muslim shit live there. Martin - I don't know what you have against Ukraine. Beautiful women everywhere. Did you have a bad experience? kaiserdag Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/5/2015 2:58:22 PM   FS, Do you really think, this "Guys seriously."....are going to "Stop quarreling like teenage girls." It's true that their BS'ing " ...is helping no one!" Well to you and any one else new, this has been going on for years. And something is odd when a few people hiding behind fictitious name go off topic after a vendetta, with a passion...IMHO , either we have a person with multiple personalities. Or is too damn cold outside to do anything else. Or he is all alone on an island/ room with nothing better on his hand. No need to ponder on this topic any longer. Just, STOP and move on to the next. STOP wasting time and more money on a lost case. STOP getting overwhelmed by a bad experience. STOP before you turn yourself irrational like a few of us on this forum. Good Luck to you FeelingStupid Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/5/2015 3:07:49 PM   TomZ.. the heading of my post is not a question. It is a statement. "You need to know when to stop and cut your losses". Anyways.. here is an update. So As stated before.. I confronted her. I have no proof.. just that gut feeling.. and the whole.. too good to be true. So we stopped talking for a few days. I didnt message her.. she didnt message me. (you woudl think if she was fake she would). Then she did... The usual.. "are you feeling better now".. after we have a bit of quarrel... So she wants to talk. (so do I) So I told her fine. I will explain what goes on in my mind.. I let loose tell her everything. About her chatting with me while her vk page shoes she is in some posh restaurant with friends.... her chatting with me when she was on vacation in India.. etc. etc.. and the main point.. her New years evening with some guy. As explained earlier... two pictures she posted on her vk page.. one of a table.. two glasses with champage and cherries in it... candles all over the table.. some xmas cookies (common in eastern europe) and a bottle of Moet. The second picture in a restaurant.. but you can only tell from the table... and you just see 2 hands, a glass in each hand and they do a "cheers" (glasses touching). This is what she said... "I am a bit famous here and this is what people want to see". She said "it was a joke.".. in the sense of putting on an image. Now I know I will look like an idiot saying this.... but it is not at all far fetched. She is a public figure and as I said a TV host of some chanel there... Am I jkust trying to believe it because I want it so badly? maybe.. maybe not... All I am saying is .. such a stupid reason is really not likely made up. Something like that could really be as she explained. Do I believe it... no comment. I dont know. So we keep talking... in the end after I explain why I am like "this".. ans she had her turn to address my concerns... she says.. I will consider writing you on vk.. I will think about it. So just now I sent her a merry xmas message through the site. About 20 minutes after she opens the letter I receive a message on VK from her vk page saying... -------------------------------------------- Hope you are ok, little crazy monkey) p.s. this is my first and last message from here ) ------------------------------------------------------- "monkey" is my nickname... So.. that is all I have. Does it look like Boris made her write it.. sure. Why is this the first and last message from there? I dont know. Maybe she has her reasons? maybe it is because we are dealing with Boris... What I am going to do?... Not sure. She is still asking me to meet me in 2 weeks. "when you see me you will feel a lot better"... As always... all this can swing both ways. It is a Boris.. or it is not. I got nothing! Oddly enough.. I got 3 other dates from other ladies already set up, and with those I have ZERO doubt they are real. I just do not want those.. although one of them is closer to my age a BIG plus, and OMG sexy!! Blows any model away!! And how I scored them?? I approached them rudely telling them i found their vk page and it was fake.. they got mad and proved me wrong.. and within 15 minutes we completely trust one other ,, and I got invited to meet them. I know you all may be skeptical.. and for those 3 ladies.. I don't care what anyone says.. as I said.. I want the other one! Anyways this is my update. As of now I A< going to Kiev and have the dates.. and see if the Gia shows up... poppy Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/5/2015 5:41:41 PM   yeah he realised his ukraine wife wasnt real . MartinPC Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/5/2015 6:54:34 PM   TomZ, You've just demonstrated the point I was making in my previous post, I'm taking about the country(s), not the people and you have responded: Uzbekistan: "Muslim shit live there" Ukraine: "Beautiful women everywhere" Have you ever been to the old town in Riga, Latvia? It is so beautiful it's difficult to imagine it was under Russia communist rule for all those years. Have you ever been to Luxembourg city, never mind the country of Luxembourg being beautiful, the city itself, I mean the roads in the city centre have hairpin bends in them up and down the hills, it reminded me of the scenery and architecture of the movie "Chitty Chitty Bang Bang". How about Switzerland, how about the Italian lakes north of Milano and towards the Swiss border, how about Sydney in Australia, I mean the list is endless and you think you're living in "beautiful" Ukraine! Regards from Siargao :) http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5532/9323702437_5778526de6_z.jpg Rick4girl Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/5/2015 7:07:42 PM   Martin PC wrote: "Ricky ... You've got two heads, the one between your legs and the one attached to your neck ... try thinking with the latter for a change :)" I am!!! Ukraine has sea, mountains, forest and plains in one country. Its equal to USA in compact size but without oceans. The Caribbean has the best beaches and ocean but its just one or 2 features. The US Rocky mountains has great skiing, hiking, climbing.... Canada has awesome forests..... Ukraine has all these things to a certain degree, all in one place. I cant help but to love my mom's homeland! btb754 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/6/2015 2:00:52 AM   "Its equal to USA in compact size but without oceans. " Does it have anyplace it almost never snows? Similar to Arizona and California desert at lower altitude. TomZ Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/6/2015 2:02:19 AM   "I am a bit famous here and this is what people want to see". FeelingStupid - do you really think that someone famous, someone in demand is going to need to join a dating site and need to see you? Cmon wake up and smell the coffee. You're being played for a fool. Probably Boris as you call him. Girls like this are in demand locally and have no need to be on foreign bride sites. But do keep us informed. Remember, a scam is anything to separate you from your money. Be careful especially of the restaurant scam and the taxi scam. I described those before in my earlier posts. It good be too that this girl is in on the scam, likes to live a high lifestyle and needs gullible men from the west to pay for it. MartinPC all your scenery looks great but what good is that if you have no one to share it with? I'd much rather have beautiful scenery in my bedroom than on some beach... TomZ Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/6/2015 2:03:04 AM   *could be* MartinPC Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/6/2015 2:17:22 AM   "I'd much rather have beautiful scenery in my bedroom than on some beach" I've got both! TomZ Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/6/2015 2:19:07 AM   FeelingStupid - The more I read this the more it looks like you've got a professional dater. If you go see her, in the end you're going to find yourself heartbroken with an empty wallet. A lot of times guys don't listen. They have to experience it for themselves. There's that faint remnant of hope that she could be real and she could be really interested in me. That is what you're living on FeelingStupid. TomZ Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/6/2015 2:52:36 AM   -------------------------------------------- Hope you are ok, little crazy monkey) p.s. this is my first and last message from here ) ------------------------------------------------------- This was just done to appease you and keep you paying on site. The fact is there are many girls in Kiev who like their life there and don't want to leave or marry some foreigner. They do however need money to finance their lifestyle and this is probably the easiest way for them to do it. beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 1/6/2015 3:05:20 AM   Feeling Stupid is quite a proper description. Not only have you not made it to first base but your not even in the batter's box. Your just another guy( there are many) that provide income to dating sites/agencies. For someone with some knowledge, you don't use it very well. Chatting like you do ( a movie, WTF)just proves how desperate you seem or maybe it is just for the entertainment. PPL's are mostly to separate money from men. PPL's are not bad IF you use them to your benefit. IF YOU CANNOT SEPARATE GIRL FROM SITE IN SHORT TIME THEN IT IS YOUR FAULT FOR WASTING MONEY. If possible get your money back.....not likely because you have no proof other than times or places non-coincidental. Move on and LEARN not to do this again. I hope you take this as constructive and not personal. I was told one time.....be realistic in your expectations, if you can't get a 10 at home why try in FSU? What is funny to me..... "We are on the same team here. You two are the most knowledgeable on this forum... you should work together. Talking about Lonely and TomZ!!! LMAO !!!!!! Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Need to know when to stop and cut your losses
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