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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > we should work together!!! Author Post Rick4girl Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/14/2015 8:00:18 PM   dcguy wrote: " the lady commented about how local men do not know how to date" it wasnt always this way. In Soviet times,(my experience in the 80s anyway)it was much more common to date in the traditional sense. pretty much everyone was the same and "going out" wasnt too terribly expensive but runaway inflation of the 90s and even now makes that increasingly difficult. "or being too immature (as in being raised without a father)?" I know first hand the "daddy issues" as my last 3 girlfriends were 20 or under (the longest off and on was 5 years) I balanced the romantic with the practical and often times felt like a parent to them especially when I said "no" to something or dealt with what I thought were trivial issues. With current GF we are enrolling her at university and now Im suddenly her guardian in paperwork. none of the 3 had a father in their life and 2 no mother either. regarding being out in public Ive often received the comment "you're such a good father" at which we just chuckle and go on. never had any negative comments or weird stares. As for what we do together? movies, the mall which includes playing games, cooking out, bowling, rollerblades and the past 3 all willingly help me at work. She is going to help me at children's camp in a few weeks dcguy Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/14/2015 8:13:01 PM   Rick4girl The children who are orphans or with single parents are often at a HUGE disadvantage when growing up. Many often end up with wrecked relationships in adulthood which perpetuates the cycle to the next generation. I am sure that in recent decades the family unit has changed quite a bit from when I was a young child. Gas was 35 cents a gallon when I was a kid. College tuition was a few thousand dollars a year when I was in school. Of course things have changed quite a bit. There are many young people who have a dismal future with no direction in life. I am sure that many will be glad to have a "mentor" or "father figure" to help them out in their daily life. Because it was absent when they were very young. You do end up as being the "leader" even if you are not the "leader type". Or the "perent", even though you have never raised a child. Rick4girl Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/15/2015 11:37:17 AM   Thats what we are working to change in Ukraine. Improve their future. kaiserdag Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/15/2015 1:40:59 PM   DC, I referring to immaturity but what can you expect of a girl in her early 20's without professional education. Tracking her with like a dictative reflect a psychological problems from a bad romance. Just because she have a kiddo doesn't make her mature but maybe more desperate or manipulative. Rick, I wonder who in reality is having fun or is serious, you or your lady? But who cares, I not her father or God to judge you. TomZ, if are really in Ukraine! Get a life and stop talking smack. kaiserdag Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/15/2015 1:41:34 PM   DC, I referring to immaturity but what can you expect of a girl in her early 20's without professional education. Tracking her with like a dictative reflect a psychological problems from a bad romance. Just because she have a kiddo doesn't make her mature but maybe more desperate or manipulative. Rick, I wonder who in reality is having fun or is serious, you or your lady? But who cares, I not her father or God to judge you. TomZ, if are really in Ukraine! Get a life and stop talking smack. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/15/2015 1:43:35 PM   "TomZ, if are really in Ukraine! Get a life and stop talking smack." Good point. Is he in Ukraine? Why then is he talking smack and not have a life except to make up lies? dcguy Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/15/2015 7:53:58 PM   kaiserdag There are two sides to every argument. There are some who state that FSU women are highly educated, socially adept, sophisticated, "cream of the crop". Well there are many who barely finished grade school, have criminal records, have no morals, and are the "cream of the crap". "Tracking her with like a detective reflects a psychological problems from a bad romance." For those unfamiliar with USA TV, there is a TV show called "Cheaters" where an undercover group of reporters track a suspected person for evidence of infidelity. Then they take the recorded video to the partner who had the suspicions of infidelity. A confrontation then often results. The show nearly 100% of the time has an "unhappy ending". Why? Because there are a lot of unfaithful people. "Just because she have a child doesn't make her mature, but maybe more desperate or manipulative." The same can also be said that not every single parent with a child is a "better dating choice". The future of both the lady plus her progeny is at stake. Some may do "whatever it takes" to get out of a dismal and bleak future in the current location. kaiserdag Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/16/2015 2:08:57 AM   DCguy, I can agree with guy... There are two sides..." I will like to add trust there is an ugly side or hard pill to swallow when the bullet hits the bone. So when I fishing if the fish is not a keeper than is a throwback or return to sender and that is fine since I had accepted rejection and set backs. Hate the game but don't hate the player(s)! I had seen a bit of those shows; filmed here, in Latin America and in Europe. ... and it makes me sick! Seeking a wife overseas or just miles away from your area is not for everyone . It is easier to make friends and see where it goes from there. Hope but don't put all your eggs on it. dcguy Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/16/2015 2:24:23 AM   "Seeking a wife overseas or just miles away from your area is not for everyone . It is easier to make friends and see where it goes from there. Hope but don't put all your eggs on it." Yes, it is so. I am not the gregarious type, so making acquaintances is not my style unlike the many lotharios and "Don Juan" and "Casanova" types who date a lot. Tommy2015 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/16/2015 4:17:57 AM   Rick4girl is right, we should work together to help each other, the fighting and bashing on this board really takes away from everything including the enjoyment and the learning. Even a post to try to help each other and that "we should work together" is quickly over taken by bashing and infighting, sad really, pathetic actually... What are the ages of some of you guys? you act worse then children with all your name calling and quarrels. No wonder some of you guys can't get a girl friend even in Ukraine... I stay out of the fights and name calling, I here to learn for my up coming trip, I could care less about the infighting that went on here in the past. Are there not moderators on here? Lets just try to get along better and make this board a better place to help each other, there is enough traps and scams for us waiting on the dating sights and in Ukraine itself, we don't need any more hardships do we? Take care all. And peace.... Tommy2015 ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/16/2015 10:27:53 AM   Tommy, recently the forum is taken over by TomZ. He follows the enjoyment and the learning you speak of with how great he is and what a fool everyone else is. To top it off, he makes up things that makes others look like fools. I am all for peace. kaiserdag Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/16/2015 11:17:28 AM   Folks, It had been said many times before! Don't expect to fly thousands of miles to find a wife to take back home. That is an illusion based on false advertising. The basics for developing a relationship are knowledge, trust and commitment. ( see Dale Carnegie book on Making friends and influence people.) Also add some skills and lots of common sense. Don't confuse one with another but there's not an absolute black or white margin. "Lets just try to get along better and make this board a better place to help each other," Agreed with that,but...,there are some people in this forum just here to release their frustrations and easy to get caught in this vicious cycle. It's easy to talk smack than to think. IMHO,,,these people should consult a mental health doctor or a spiritual leader. K-Dag over and out P.S TomZ is full of BS and I got a NASCAR race to get to. Rick4girl Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/16/2015 12:06:43 PM   I chose to stop being negative to lonely and Tom as there is no benefit to it and its not helping those who come here who really want practical and honest advice. (exception made for danny) all the infighting is likely why that "other" forum is much larger although it has many agency trolls offering bad advice. they still maintain the myth that if you buy the books hawked on the site, make enough introductions(for a fee, of course)then you can soon find the wife of your dreams they even have an "age difference" formula and promote the idea that there has never been a better time than now to find your dream girl(because girls are desperate to leave???) The advice here may sometimes by harsh but its a least mostly honest lonelyranger1701 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/16/2015 1:51:30 PM   R4G: “ I chose to stop being negative to lonely and Tom as there is no benefit to it and its not helping those who come here who really want practical and honest advice.” So,,,, you’ve finally realized that bullying and insulting others,,, is not an effective incentive to entice men into coming to Ukraine?? P.S.,,,, Please don’t put me in the same sentence as TomZ! TomZ Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/16/2015 3:07:02 PM   R4G - you didn't see it but lonely went after you for breaking up with your gf on the thread that got deleted. This is someone who's never done it lecturing those who have. TomZ Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/16/2015 4:42:51 PM   R4G - yesterday lonely went after you like the rabid dog that he is for breaking up with your gf. It was on the thread that got deleted. I am glad that you didn't have to read his bile. dcguy Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/16/2015 5:48:16 PM   "they still maintain the myth that if you buy the books hawked on the site, make enough introductions(for a fee, of course)then you can soon find the wife of your dreams" Similar to all of those infomercials saying how great investing in real estate is and flipping houses. EVERYONE CAN SUCCEED, all you have to do is open up your wallet and BUY INTO THE DREAM. TomZ Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/16/2015 6:11:31 PM   Rick this is what lonelyranger would look like as he was going after you yesterday. He was incredibly vicious. tinyurl.com/l7qf82v Batman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/16/2015 8:50:03 PM   TomZ, No one wants your crap here--go way. TomZ Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/16/2015 9:37:36 PM   Yeah sure bat. Would you like sprinkles with that? 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