If a man has sex with another man then he is gay, if a woman has sex with another woman she is lesbian, to be bisexual is to be both gay/lesbian and straight, as is said "swing both ways", one way being gay/lesbian, the other being straight
lets get one thing very clear here. girls hold hands in Ukraine all the time. It means absolutely NOTHING. They are friends, nothing more.
at night you see it even more for safety.
I can remember boys wanting to hold my hand while walking until were 12-15. nothing gay about it. They just love that someone is giving a shit about them.
You cannot apply western judgement here. Often drunk male friends will wall down the street with arms around each other. They arent gay, they are trying to keep each other from falling down!
""Well, there was this guy who told us that he had sex with 87 people.""
Thats really not a big number. Ive had sex with at least 150+ different people(probably closer to 200) and dont think that is a very big number.
probably on the upper end of normal.
I went with my first girlfriend for about a year. The last time I saw her was about 20 years ago. She was married with a son. I see her on FB now. She is married to a woman.
There are gay and straight people. If you've had sex with same sex, you can't be straight, that train left the station. bi/gay/swinging whatever, it's the same.
Grown up women holding hands normal? sure if they are lesbians. How about kissing and grabbing each other? does this count? or are they just being friendly to each other?
4re_geo misunderstanding of social behaviors abroad had given him a distorted perception of acceptable human relationships in Ukraine.
Girls holding hands... Nothing homo about that.
Men hugging and kissing each other on salutation... Nothing homo there neither.
However; most of us can agree that there is a double standard. A bi-sexual guy is,,, still gay but a bi-sexual gal is not a lesbian.
" thats really not a big number. Ive sex with..."
Rick,,, you about the rule of 3? If it is a girl then you MULTIPLY BY 3!!!
Folks,
Do a research before posting. Remember the...VAT? LOL )))
"Do a research before posting. Remember the...VAT? LOL )))"
What about the VAT? Am I going to change to proper vocabulary by country for congruent items because a certain forum member will get upset?
I did do a research on your Wilt Chamberlain claim. The only back up to your claim are forum posts. You may find some opinion posts, but nothing conclusive.
kaiserdag: it's actually a small number. In the late 80's before the collapse of Soviet Soyuz, I spent about a year in Budapest as a teenager. I knew a guy in late 20's, he must have had sex with at least a thousand, maybe two thousand. Girls were extremely permissive, you could walk up to a girl to a bus station and ask her out. I know other eastern European countries were the same way, it was part of the culture, sex was easy. Forward a couple decades later and things cannot have changed that much.
Since the last time I check out of Europe, things still very much the same. However,that's not how I roll. If it wasn't for the moral values I had lived by, I would had been bragging and speculating.
I held hands with a little boy of 5 y/o only last evening, he's a half Filipino/Aussie lad, a son of a friend of mind, the cutest kid ever and he's got a soft spot for my dog Harry :)
LR1701 wrote: "Guys holding hands?? I have no memory of ever holding hands with a male of any age,,, not even family."
Often the boys stop around 10 or so with a male role model but this one boy did this up until a year ago at nearly 15 because his sister would be on one side of me so he had to be on the other. You must remember that the kids I am dealing with generally havent really had anyone to show them love and affection so they crave attention.
The girls do it all the time. not a big deal. holding their hand shows you give a shit about them and there is absolutely nothing more to it to be implied.
remember, Ukraine and Russia are very homophobic. 2 grown men holding hands is gonna be a problem but the other things, nope