This does not refer to a good marriage or bad, But I have looked into a divorce a little. I am not into the legal language, but I got some news to share.
What I found out, but you should look for your self; is When you get married. In the first 2 years if it does not work out, the US gov. may send your wife back. BUT after 2 years she may stay in America and if she can not support her self. Guess what ! you get to take responcibility for her up to 10 years. What I mean is that you get to pay the gov. back for any help she may ask for. Food stamps, housing, etc. And if she has kids ? Wow, I just do not like to go into these things blind, but I can only hope for friends like you to show me the way.
Your FSU wife having kids is a moot point, since even if your domestic one night stand variety of US female has your kids, you will paying her for at least 18 years anyway............... you can also be court ordered to pay back to a state agency, any money paid to your American ex wife, while she collected welfare, after she dumped your ass and left you homeless. So, although the risk is greater, lets not exaggerate. By the way this law applies to any immigrants to the US who were sponsered, including myself. In my case it has never been enforced either
Dude, yeah you get royally screwed. Marriage itself is a very bad business contract to enter into. Especially since most devorce courts favor woman. So you when I hear of people meeting for the first time and choosing to marry I think they are nuts. It takes a while to know someone well enough to take the marriage plunge. Someone has to have looked into the decvorce rates with these kinds of marriages. I have been talking to 3 women and a 4th one just contacted me. They each tell me about life there and oh man I can totally understand their desire to leave the country. This should give any man that can think with the head on his shoulders pause.
"Groon, it has been my experince that the girls who write to me telling of their pathetic life in the FSU were only trying to set me up...... "
So you expect them to lie to you and say all is great there? You mean when you ask someone about life there and the reasons behind their wanting to leave you automaticly think they are scammers? My point with life there was that you need to be ready for a con. I'm not sure how you took it.
Hi Groon,....I read you original post on the thread "suspicious" ,.....................I am just not sure that you have communicated with an honest girl yet.
"So you expect them to lie to you and say all is great there?"
Yes !!! FSU women are strong and proud, a genuine one would NEVER get into this sort of conversation in her first 20 or 30 letters !!! My Natahs has a better life than many, but she still works long ours for low pay, not once have I ever heard her complain about anything, except being tired !!
My divorce from my FSU X cost me $600, all done and dusted, she gets Zip from me, but she had gone back there before the divorce, so I am not sure what would have happened if she had remained here.
If I was ever ina situation where I thought the marriage was about to go pear shaped, I would likely send my wife back to see her family and friends, and that way she would be there, and stuck as it were !! It sounds a bit mean I realise that, but if it had gone west so soon, and it was obvious that i had been had, then i feel to try to protect myself against being taken to the cleaners isnt the wrong thing to do. (obviously this scenario doesnt take into the situation possible children we might have had by then, that would be a whole different ball game !!!)
Lucy has been spending time with a friend who is back to Moldova from the U.S. for a visit. Her name is Olga and she has been happily married for two years to Dan from Kentucky. Olga is the one who turned Lucy on to the prospect of finding her soul mate on the internet. This is how Olga and Dan met (I think thatit was Fiance .com, I'm not sure. Has Fiance.com been around that long?)
Lucy says that they are happily married. I only hope that it is not the scenario that Tim described - where good ol Dan was fed up with Olga and bought her a one way ticket to Moldova!
The only complaint from Olga is that Danny does not like to help with the housework . Hmmm... Maybe Danny Boy is in the market for a new FSU female. No, this is really not a big issue for Olga - I beleive, just a minor marital irritant!
Is it common for a FSU gal to expect some help in this area?
I told Lucy that she is on her own. If we are together, our four kids , three story house, 65 acre property, two cats, dog and fish, vehicles, three loads of laundry a day, meals, dishes, house work etc.. is her exclusive domain! I'm not paying big bucks to get her here so that I have to worry about these things anymore! (just kidding).
Actually I told Lucy that I will willingly help with house work (what the heck I do it all bymyself now). Lucy said that she would like me to help her. But that the kitchen and laundry I would have to stay out of! No problem here. I'm tired of ordering pizza and cooking frozen food for the hungry hoard here at 151 Taylor Street!
"Is it common for a FSU gal to expect some help in this area?"
Girls do expect help in the area of housework, but very rare this help is given...of course flats here are not so big to be a real burden...but anyway very often these hopes are in vain, and a girl has to do everything on her own.
Well, Pitchka, If the lovely Lucy and I get together her hopes will not be in vain; and she will be one girl who has more help than she will know what to do with!
Lucy's friend Olga was not impressed with U.S. women. She found them to be unkind, selfish, neglectful of their children and husbands, and lazy!
Lucy is not atr all impressed with Moldovan (or Ukrainian, or Russian men). She says that they are never at home drink to much beer, wine and vodka at the bars, and are unkind to their wives and children.
It's no wonder that she thinks that it is a great stroke of fortune for the two of us to have met. I also think this as well.
So Lucy is a lucky girl:)))) I hope you 2 will be very happy!!!
When my friend moved to the USA she wanted to make friends with other Ukrainian and Russian girls there, in reality it turned out that she couldn't stand talking with them face-to-face just on the phone, and she speaks for 30-30 minutes with them on the phone.
As for men here...many are forced to keep away from home because of their wives...who demand to know where the husband is in every second, they call on his work (and people who work with him cracj jokes), they follow him, forbid to meet with his friends in the bars, or if allow only in her presence...brrr that's disgusting, really. My boyfriend spends not much time at home, I know that he is working really hard for 2 of us, he may go and sit in the bar with his friends, without any girls...so what's wrong in that??? I also get together with my friends, without him, though we have our common company...so there are so many little details...and I realize that each couple has it's own relations, the most important thing is of them to be happy!!!:)))
no girl I have corresponded with, and there have been about 40 has ever said how apthetic her life is, or how poor she is, a few have mentioned they don't see their children much, due to the long hours they work, no-one has ever asked me for money, am I on a different site?
"Is it common for a FSU gal to expect some help in this area?"
Its uncommon for men there to help in the kitchen, so if you do help, even though she may not expect it, she Will appreciate it !!!
"Lucy's friend Olga was not impressed with U.S. women. She found them to be unkind, selfish, neglectful of their children and husbands, and lazy!"
Thats rather freaky !! I found them to be exactly the same !! And their UK sisters too !! Well at least we are all admonished from burning in hell for voicing our disatisfaction of our local females !! Olga cant be wrong ;o))
Its odd you say that Ptichka, about FSU wives being possessive, mine was !! I never once cheated on her in any way with anyone, the thought never even crossed my mind, but she was awfully jealous of any woman I knew well, and would make her presence felt if ever I was talking to a woman in public, even though I had known thsi other woman many years and never had or wanted a relationship with any of these other women, who were and are still friends of mine.
Then this jealous and possessive wife goes off and sleeps with a boy, little more than a child at 20 years old (she was 27) and expects me just to suck it up and accept it !!!
If there is any one thing i will NOT accept in any relationship, its double standards !!!
I was kind og shocked by the possesive nature of the woman I spent time with in Moldova. She was concerned that i might contact another woman - who I had originally met with her. And she was justified in THAT concern. We are not married and were not all that advanced in a relationship that there was a commitment yet.
Still - in 21 days there was only 4 hours that she was not with me. She refused to let me sit next to any attractive woman on a MiniBus. When I commented that a woman ahead of us had attractive blonde hair - she went on for well over a half hour about how the woman's face was not very attractive.
I was AMAZED at the possesive and jealous nature of this woman considering that we were not very far along in any sort of relationship.
Am I to beleive that this sort of behavior is typical and would only get worse?
Jet if she is already like that, then after getting married she can get only worse, but if her husband will be a stronger personality, then she may be not so possesive...
But this type of behaviour is not typical, there are different women and different types of behaviour:)))
I don't think that you would have a problem with FSU girls being jealous once you got them Stateside, Jet. .......No women here for them to get jealous of. LOL..
The one I am visiting in Moldavia is already jealous, that I am corresponding with 2 others, Advice men!! I think you have to tell them that this questioning, following around and being suspicious is not acceptable, it could get very wearing in a short space of time, put your foot down straightaway!!
tradman you can't prove a woman anything if she is so into the thought that a man is cheating on her...unfortunately...
so telling this may even make things worse..