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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Kid in a Candy Shop redux Author Post Ptichka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/1/2004 10:51:37 AM   Well actually you see I would use Lingvo even if it was site of China:))) You're wellcome for it:)) it's always a pleasure for me to advise good things;))) You see my attitude towards Russia doesn't depend on the fact that Lugansk is close to it...but it's another topic to speak about it...it's a rather bad attitude, have to admit. I know many good Ukrainian sites, but everything there is written in Ukrainian, so it may cause some problems with people using it, especially those who don't know the language. Ptichka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/1/2004 11:30:41 AM   Just got the idea that some may not understand correctly my words...my bad attitude is towards official Russia, and it's policy. Had to clear that up:) tradman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/1/2004 1:51:24 PM   Thats all cleared up them ptichka Adam2301 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/1/2004 3:45:12 PM   By the way, I was sick last week in St P; I went to an Apteka (same word in Dutch) and received medicines that are forbidden in Belgium since years now .... but very effective (Chloramphenicol; cortisone, phenergan and son on ...) I'm not sure that our W-System is always right about medicines ..... TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/1/2004 4:48:50 PM   Me either Adam !!! Most of the good ones are prescription only, and if your doctor is clsed you are stuffed until you can get to see him, and then you may wait 5 to 7 days for an appointment !! I am a bit luckier than many, my Doc is a personal friend so if I need anything I telephone and he leaves me a prescription out to collect within an hour, but most people just have to suffer until they can get that silly bit of paper, that teh chemist could easilly have done the job the doctor did, asked a few questions and sold one the correct drug !! Mental !! jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/1/2004 7:25:49 PM   WorlfTraveler: In reference to the slipper question - what you might not realize is that many of us here in the west (I'm not sure where you are from) don't wear slippers at all. The concept of ALWAYS taking off shoes on entering an abode and putting on slippers is foreign to us. OF COURSE no one is suggesting that Moldovans run around all day taking slippers to every house that they visit. I am merely making westerners aware of the fact that Moldovans make a big deal of wearing slippers in the house as opposed to shoes. Many of us outside that culture are not aware of it. You might further be surprised to discover that westeners are often opposed to wearing other people's shoes or slippers. We tend to prefer our own. That was the reason I suggested bringing a pair. Again I don't know where you are from or where you call home, but the toilet tissue issue is quite different than what most of us westerners are familiar with - it therefore is worthy of mention for those considering a trip to Eastern Europe in general, or Moldova in particular. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/1/2004 7:31:55 PM   <your luggage should be carefully closed, if you give it/take it in the airport of Chisinau. Personal things of your suitcases get sometimes "lost". For example your money, > WorldTrveler - are you aware that current regulations require luggage to be UNLOCKED - at least then checking it into international flights from the US. And who, in their right mind, would pack MONEY in their suitcase??? Neonred Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/1/2004 8:25:18 PM   Jet With regard to the luggage issue, I have found that zip ties are effective for securing luggage. Just prior to giving up my luggage I place a zip tie through the ends of the zippers on my bag to secure them. I have been told that in the US if they need to inspect your bag they will snip the zip ties, inspect, and then replace with new zip ties. The bag is not technically locked. On two trips to Russia I have used this method and my bag has not been opened. At least I will know if anyone has been in my bag. Of course never place valuables or money in your checked luggage. TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/1/2004 8:29:40 PM   "I am merely making westerners aware of the fact that people in the FSU, make a big deal of wearing slippers in the house as opposed to shoes" Slight change to your line Jet as my point covers all FSU countries. FSU people are proud of their homes, they spend whatever spare cash (which isnt much and isnt often) on making their homes as comfortable as they can, and comfortable for visitors too. Carpets there are Not cheap, so a flat with nice carpets is a luxury, one which is never taken for granted. These people want to keep their lovely carpets clean and bright as long as possible because they cannot afford to recarpet every 4 or 5 years like we do. So to help with this, noone wears outdoor shoes indoors. Another reason, mentioned by our dear Ptichka, some time in another thread (but I will repeat it for the new guys, so good to them we are, saving them looking through all the hogwash of the old posts to find stuff :o)) ) is that when visiting an FSU home, you are a guest, and as such there is a great wish that you be as confortable as possible, wearing your outdoor shoes in a warm apartment in summer would not be confortable, also wet or damp shoes remaining on your feet in winter would make your feet cold even indoors, your hosts would not accept this, and would want that you had more comfortable atire for your feet, hence, Slippers :o)) Take a pair with you, they dont weigh anything, and you will enjoy fitting in when you wear them ;o))) "And who, in their right mind, would pack MONEY in their suitcase???" DONT DO IT !! When I changed clothes at Moscow I left a few pounds (in coins) and some shrapnel in one of my pockets, "its only loose change" I figured, "and I wont need it before I go back to the UK". When I unpacked in Omck, it had gone !! There couldnt have been above 5 pounds total, all unspendable in the FSU and mostly in small change, but they had obviously opened my case somewhere between Moscow check in and Omck collection to nick it !!! DO NOT put ANY money in your case, keep it on you !!! TimH Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/1/2004 8:32:47 PM   Same goes for travellers checks and credit cards !! ensata Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/1/2004 8:38:30 PM   Worldtraveler .. I certainly appreciate your visiting here. The questions I have for you are: (1) I was wondering about your thoughts on Moldovan men. How do they treat their women, is it different than other FSU men? (2) Also how ought I to behave with Lucy's family (parents, brothers sisters etc.)? Are there any family social customs I ought to know so as to make a good impression, and to not embarrass myslelf? Lucy's mother is ethnic Moldovan, her father is from the Ukraine. She was raised in Ungheni, and lives now in Chisinau. I am arriving in Chisinau airport on Friday July 9th and will be departing on Friday the 16th. So I am expecting it to be hot and possibly humid? Here in New England (Massachusetts) summers are hot and very humid. When I arrive I will be staying for a day and a half at Lucy's siter and brother in law's home in a village an hour outside of Chisinau. Then we will be spending one day at her parents in Ungheni. The rest of the week I will be staying with Lucy at her apartment. Worldtraveller Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/2/2004 3:09:27 AM   Jet, I am completely aware about the terms regarding luggage. And of course I completely agree with you about money in suitcases. I can only try to give helpful advices, thatīs it. About slippers: as Tim wrote above, the private flats of easter european people are saint for them. It is their pride and a sign of being wealthy. So they care a lot for it. Another reason is, that the streets at least in KIshinew are dirty, with a lot of dust. Means, that shoes will get dirty outside automatically and with slippers you can avoid to bring the dirt inside the apartments. I never hesitated to use slippers from other people, becasue they arenīt more dirty or clean than I am. It would be unpolite, to refuse wearing their guest slippers. For sure I know about the habits in your US. I am from Germany and we also act different to the traditions in Moldova. We also have good toilet-paper and bidets :-) But despite the fact, that I donīt like Moldova too much, I follow their habits and respect them. I am doing business there, but at the same time I feel always like a guest. Jet, maybe I see Moldova also from another point of view: I am not travelling to there for finding my soulmate with the support of any marriage-agencies - from my years lasting experiences I see this country also from political, economical and social views. If you take into consideration, that sooner or later 2 out of 3 young women from Moldova will go abroad to work as prostitutes, that a lot of narcotic transports are passing through Moldova, that poverty is so extreme, that people are ready to sell one of their kidneys - so you will hopefully understand, that there are much more important facts (for me), than the question about toilet tissues. ensata: will have the pleasure to answer you later, o.k.? Worldtraveller crashnsplash Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/2/2004 9:05:17 AM   If I went to a friends house and put slippers on they would think I became Mr Rodgers and probably roll off the furniture laughing at me. The only thing that drives me nuts is when the kids come in with dirty feet. That drives me nuts!! I will not forget about the slippers though, even though I will feel very awkward putting them on Ptichka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/2/2004 9:24:32 AM   Crash be sure that people here would appreciate you knowing some traditions and ways to act when you will come:) jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/2/2004 10:37:59 AM   WorlfTraveler: I have a lot of compasion for the people of Moldova - I am college educated as an economist and am well aware of their economic plight. But this forum is for those who are in pursuit of a Russian woman (or a woman from an FSU country). And one of the necessary steps, of course, in doing that is to actually meet the woman you are interested in. In doing so it is extremely important that those of us who are unfamiliar with the social customs and tendencies of the people be made more aware. That is why we bring issues that may seem minor in the grand scheme of things, That is why toilet paper - and whther or not you need to bring it - becomes an issue. Are there more important issues facing Moldova? Of course there are. But this forum is not just intended to discuss Moldovas political climate or its trade deficit or mounting world debt. It is intended to teach and inform, even regarding the basic things, for those of us who may intend to travel there. GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/2/2004 12:12:44 PM   Bravo Jet!! WorldTraveler, If you're such a self appointed expert in traveling you know that being able to crap regularly and comfortably is always a concern for most people, regardless of country they're from. On the other hand, I do understand why you think crapping is not important....I mean no offense but I have yet to find people with more anal retentive capabilities than germans. It's amazing!! So in summary, for everyone here... crapping is much more important than any particular national problem Moldova or any other FSU country is facing. Simply because we CAN do something about crapping, but very little or nothing at all about their national problems..:)))) Dale E Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/2/2004 12:17:48 PM   You're weird Toad. Ptichka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/2/2004 12:22:53 PM   Toad, there is really nothing you can do about our national problems here...it's true, so why not to face it??? Even talking over them here for many many months will change nothing, but may hurt girls from FSU who may drop here, seeing how the problems are discussed and not good sides...and they will return here, and this may eventually turn them away from foreigners...don't you understand?? don't you remember what I spoke about pride...we may have many problems, but we never discuss them in public, in a kitchen with a close friend, it will be discussed, but never in public. jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/2/2004 12:51:25 PM   With all due respect, Ptichka, it wasn't Toad who brought up the problems facing Moldova or FSU countries. It wasn't me either. We both are of the position that this forum is not for the discussion of such things even though they exist. The hints and suggestions I have given were merely meant to help a traveler to cope with the differences they might encounter. We don't mean upset the people of any FSU country by discussing things we cannot change. It is just hoped that we can give some hints for travelers to make the transition from one country to another a little less difficult. Ptichka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/2/2004 1:01:59 PM   I don't mind giving hints to travellers to help them have a good and save trip...I just talked about the possibility about discussing such things, not just here on forum, but also there when you come to your girl...I understand that you're all here clever people and you realize that it's not good to talk about that, but just wanted to remember about that one more time:) Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Kid in a Candy Shop redux
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