Tradman- The 3 most important words a person longs to hear "I love You" but to say on a daily basis will take away the true meaning of the phrase. After a few weeks you'll understand. Try saving it for special times and when you'll need it most. Just as breakfast in bed would be most appreciated by your wife, to do it everyday would take the fun out of it or worse, be expected. Overusage, though not meant, will lessen its meaning. It is also the phrase that makes scammers rich. I am happy to see your woman has changed you from the worldly Casanova to the love-sick puppy you are today!!!!!! I am envious of you! :o)
You are right Dale, I have been hit on by two gorgeous women in the last 2 weeks and have turned them down...what's wrong with me?!!!
I disagree with your other comment, if it is jusr said casually every day, then of course it is just like a reflex action and has no meaning, but I think you can say it everyday, look into her eyes and say it with meaning.
I tell her everyday and she tels me, and when she says it, it has a profound affect on me, so saying it daily is ok, it just must never lose the effect that it has
Thunder, I agree that the majority of eastern women have to work to survive. But who do you expect to believe in the fairy-tale about western women who works only for additional income&career. Give me a break!!! Nowadays in the US both (husband&wife) have to work to provide a decent living for the family. I've been to the States twice and I know what I'm talking about. As to myself, I really enjoy my work it gives me sense of identity, I don't want to depend totally on somebody! Even if I was married to a millionaire I would work anyway! Not every woman was meant to be a plain housewife! There are so many things outside the kitchen sink.
Sanch, do you realize that faith&religion are completely different things? Besides, in 70 years people might have lost their beliefs. I wonder what are your beliefs, what's your so to speak ideology in this life?
Arta, I disagree with you a bit on the description that it takes two
people incomes in the States. I haven't been there twice I live here. For over 22 years I have been the sole income earner in my life. I was married for 16 of those years. I've downsized my lifestyle somewhat since my divorce. It's a matter how someone manages their finances. It amazes me that it takes two people work and at the end of their work weeks they have little money left over. It's not a matter of how much money you earn, it's what you do with the money you
earn. I've only had one car payment in my life and that's because I choose to be in an industry that supplies me with a personal automobile, plus I have a stipend of a free gas card. If a person takes control of their financial situation you can live as well as you
choose. I worked a part time job for a while to save up some money to
play in the stock market. For as little as a 5000 dollar invest in the stock market I have an additional income of about 1200 dollars a month. My day Job I only earn about 45,000 a year. Not big money by
any means. I have friends that earn 3 times that amount and have saved
nothing, they live week to week. I live in a nice three bedroom home in the country, not big but nice and I can do what I want. I watched my parents work their asses off and I decided that wasn't for me. All it got my father was an early grave at 58. You can work smarter and not harder. The American dream is alive and well if you are willing to accept certain things, taking risks, not looking for government as an answer to your livestyle. And learn their are two kinds of credit, constructive credit and destructive credit. It seems here in the states most people haven't wised up about destructive credit. Credit is like the stock market would you buy a stock that you know is a stone cold loser? No. Then why would you buy on credit a depreciating assest, which I find as an oxymoron. The only credit obligations I have now is my home and three credit cards, which I pay off the credit cards in 20 days. I use them more for convenience. Wealth on smallar incomes can be devised in many ways the only rule is discipline and you can have a very happy and satisfying financial life, which in many ways helps to improve personal romantic life. How many divorces in the states are because of financial reasons. I bet more than we realize.
That's why it took me about three years to make a decision to come to a place like fiance.com. I knew if I'm lucky enough to find the lady of my dreams in the FSU, the last thing I wanted to do to her was throw her in the work place, she's going to have a tough enough time with adjustment to a new country and a way of life. I couldn't submit her to the stress of working to pay bills. It's going to be tough enough with being homesick and the prejudice that she might be subjected to in the work place here. I'm not looking for a housewife I'm a little wiser than that. I just want her transition to be as easy as possible here. I want her to make the decision of what she wants to do and what she wants to be, thats the real american dream. If she wants to be a housewife and raise kids fine, and if she wants a career or a job of her own that's fine also. I only have one rule with money, It's an excellent servant but a terrible master.
Mike- I also make about the same as you and manage the money wisely. I don't know though if the belt is going to break with the additional strain of a new wife with a child. I can only tighten it so much but I think I could manage. My point is, you and I and the people with too much money could afford to give wife her own option, but the country as a whole has become a two income earner nation. There are probably many men here in the forum whose good intention are the same as ours but realistically and eventually will develop into the necessity of the woman working. It also amazes me about my friends who make at least twice as much as I and don't have anything to show for it.
And what is the problem with the woman working??? I realize that a girl coming over to the new country will have many problems at first, but later why can't she go to work just to develop her personality???
Well personally I, find sitting at home and doing just the things about the house a boring thing actually...OK it's IMHO. But really staying at home and doing things about the house and not having the opportunity to meet with friends or even new people..is a scaring situation for me....or am I missing something in this situation????:)
I am the same as you two, I only make in the uk about the equivalent of about $60,000. I also have downsised my expectations. Sure I would like a Ferrari, but I know it won't make me as happy as a loving wife and children. I made a point of telling everyone I corresponded with, that I have an income only a little above average and that I was not going to work 14 hrs a day to increase it. So I made it clear that if anyone one was overly materialistic, then there was no point in us corresponding. My intended wants to work( she is very intelligent and has a very good job as an economist. We have discussed it, she will spend the first 3-5 years having a baby, learning English. Being an economist does not really make her happy, her passion is Archaelogy and she will use this period to get an open university degree in this subject. I want her to be happy, to have a career that is fulfilling. I will not have her taking a menial job (the is nothing wrong with manuallabour) just so we can afford more material goods.
My thoughts anyway!!!!!
Pitchka My dear I think you are missing something in my answer. Read the last paragraph of my post here. I want her to do what she wants to do. Here it is my dear.
That's why it took me about three years to make a decision to come to a place like fiance.com. I knew if I'm lucky enough to find the lady of my dreams in the FSU, the last thing I wanted to do to her was throw her in the work place, she's going to have a tough enough time with adjustment to a new country and a way of life. I couldn't submit her to the stress of working to pay bills. It's going to be tough enough with being homesick and the prejudice that she might be subjected to in the work place here. I'm not looking for a housewife I'm a little wiser than that. I just want her transition to be as easy as possible here. I want her to make the decision of what she wants to do and what she wants to be, thats the real american dream. If she wants to be a housewife and raise kids fine, and if she wants a career or a job of her own that's fine also. I only have one rule with money, It's an excellent servant but a terrible master.
Being an American I can appreciate your love for Ferrari's, myself
it would be a 1968 Plymouth GTX with a 426 hemi. I might think about some 14 hour days for that car. LOL!!!!!!
Pls read what I meant/said, but I'll 'translate' it here.
There's nothing WRONG with her working, only in the west she does not HAVE to.
And when you really understand that you will see where the difference lies.
Arta, with all respect, a/some visit(s) will show you the outside only. When it shines it does not mean its OK, same with a company in posh offices with big cars in the parking - they may go bank the next week.
Couples earning lots live on a high standard, and they tend to push the boundaries until a marginal balance is reached, and when disturbed often causing personal tension and friction.
Saving, i.e. taking surplus money to the bank (or investing it), is a concept which is alive in the west. Or was for many, credit is offered even by supermarkets, trying to lure people into a vicious circle just by eating. A new car will make the neighbours jealous, and designer-clothing is a must at school these days, never mind you simply ‘must have’ an audio-visual setup in a dedicated room – you want me to continue?
If you do not work your income will seize hence will affect your feeding habits to a severe degree – do you understand me now?
And banks and credit and higher purchase etc are all things which the eastern woman is not used to. They might not even have a bankaccount for that matter, because cash is king.
In the west an overdraft is.
The world revolves around money, and this commodity flows very different in the parts where we live, to such an extent even that it may even affect Maslov's hierarchy. But in any case this principle is ingrained into culture, habits, beliefs and superstition even, making life on either side of the no-more existent wall very, very different.
And that, my dear, is no fairy-tale.
I think sophistication is an evolution of the society you're living in.
To some of the Russian women we may not be as sophisticated in their way of life. They understand this and I think they are hoping we understand that they won't be as sophisticated in our way of life.
nasfan6, you wrote:
"Then why would you buy on credit a depreciating assest, which I find as an oxymoron. "
-I don't think you are a real American.
-not a typical one, anyway!
Who wants to be typical? I walk to the beat of my own drum. Rest assured my friend I am a real American. I bleed the red,white and blue. I just learned a long time ago it's not how much money you earn its what you do with the money your earn.
Ptichka, you wrote:
"... People get divorced no matter on their religion beliefs...it doesn't matter on that I guess. ..."
-I simply pointed out that 'life-long-love' and belief in the Holy Scriptures (as mentioned in posts above) do not apply to ALL females of the FSU.
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