She has said she does not look for a man abroad, So be kind to her so we will have her IMHO. I am sure you do not want to make the S=-T list. Please don't take things to serious!!! How did you like the womans forum? I am wondering if Buckeye made it to the forum?
If he used the hints he should have succeeded. I even make a bookmark out of promt page so it opens everytime in english (a sort of). I don't care so much since russian and english are both foreign languages for me (lol).
Me, serious? You gonna be kidding. But I am happy to make some of you guys scared... I know she has a nice guy. I know she isn't searching. I know she is really not my type (5'9" - how could we dance?). Besides - nobody asked her, but she is too smart to interfere, I think.
WF: I think those girls don't have profiles in Fiance.com, since their problems are a bit weird: - Why don't I get any messages (some get hundreds)?
- Should I write first (here they do, but seldom)?
- I would be happy to read my girl's (still just in a dream) question: He is coming next month, what shall I do?
I have been to the women's forum, I will not be going back there again, I have a hard time as is, keeping from becoming discouraged on this side of the fence. So to help you from becoming discouraged I will say nothing of my adventure except do not go there.
While becoming more discourage today I was wondering this, if as the man Buckeye states from valid research that only 4-5%of the men that write and build relationships with the women overseas actually make the trip then the marragie and succes rate must be dismal.
If we were to meet a woman and fall in love how many women actually get permission to come here.
I have put all my eggs in one basket!
I am not an American so this can be a strange question: Ever considered marrying your sweetheart there? Would it be then easier for her coming to the States (psychologicaly for sure, but what about immigration office?)?
Having read the women forum i can conclude only one thing: I've never seen a group so SUPERFICIAL hookers than the Russian women.
Do you want a high return to letters write INdirectly that you are rich.
Write have high education, they will translate to high earnings potential.
Write have family value's they will translate i can watch soap at a rich guy's house.
Write have own business they will translate have lots of money.
Real man they translate have lots of money and i don't have to think only go to the mall.
Do not write directly that you are rich because they will translate they know i'm a H.
(Who said American women are bad, has never looked into the mind of the Russian women)
The women's dream a soccer player (Rich,handsome, stupid and uneducated (so she can play smart)).
Other remark: "Some guy's get hundreds of letters" Reality the return rate to letters is below 20% (given as an argument to go there and spend 200$ a day to the agency)
Other remark: they haven't a clue how it is to be in the west (they all have the miss Bundy dream)so in two years they will be disappointed and blame you, (they assume it is only right to take your money for that (not inconsiderable bonus as they call it)
Marrying your sweetheart there can be interesting, culturally, psychologically but not legally (you will get two burocratic nightmares not just one and it doesn't help visa application except maby when you want to become Russian)
Respected women!
Here to you five fundamental rules:
1. You must find the man, who would be very good person.
2. You must find the man, who would be very rich and it bought to you mink furcoats.
3. You must find the man, who would be romantic and obtained to you stars from nearby.
4. You must find the man, who would be strong physically, and he could protect you in any situation. And the fifth, most main rule: SO THAT EVERYONE THESE FOUR PEASANTS EACH OTHER would not know "
Which man will you be? Which one will she say your are?
Warning women do not believe you are all four of them?
Southern gent, no I still havent made it to the womens forum! LOL!
wes, stop being discouraged! And do not put all your eggs in one basket! Just like we talked about last night....
Success rates of Western men and FSU women are considerably higher than USA men and USA women. WHere as the divorce rate in america sits at about 50% or so, research has shown that divorce rate of FSU women and US men is about 15 %! THere is strength in THESE numbers!!
Dream finder, no do not marry abroad, It slows down the visa process for most men in America rather than going the fiance visa.
Ron, man, women are women the world over. Calling them superficial hookers not only demeans them but us men as well and cheapens the process of many wonderful women who are genuine looking abroad for a good husband! I have to wonder about your motives for finding a woman abroad...Women are going to be 'catty' when discussing topics online! Look at some of our threads...We dont always have great things to say about women...
The point is this: THere are going to be good apples in both bushel baskets-Women who are genuine, loving, caring individuals. And men who are the same. Remember, so few women write to the forum compared to the majority who do not....
Ron there is the other variant for men, I will try to remember and place it here.
A man needs a woman who is:
1. A woman who can cook perfectly;
2. A woman who can clean your house and clothes the best way;
3. A woman who is a "devil" in bed;
4. A woman who is the soul of the company and is beautiful;
5. And the women mentioned above should never meet:))))
Actually this is just a joke, both the variant for women and for men:)
BM I agree with your statement about ... that it demeans them, (but occasionally they deserve it, as well as we guy's deserve some remarks).
Reading through two sites written by Scandinavian men, who are very nice about their exes, i got nevertheless the idea that the women left their husband because of unrealistic ideas about how her new life would be and that it is at least for a large part about money, be it the idea that it sweetens everything or a misunderstanding what a forklift driver or a truck driver earns and what one can do with that money.
Reading the Russian side of this forum i get again the idea that men are the only romantics and that women to much think about their position in society, not about happiness in the long run.
I have also read a Dutch site written by Russian women who gave me an other insight, (that marriage can be as i want it to be, namely a partnership between equals)
A little remark though the women are VERY negative about Russian men, my believe is once they cross the border they will be very negative about their new men.
I might be willing to believe that the that write on this forum are (too) young girls who think that being pretty is all there is. There is some growing up to do, but it could be on your cost.
Horses live in herds, the upper male brings them to the greener grass and protects them against dangers.
15 million years ago men lived like that, since then we walk on two legs and developed a brain, are going to school and are living kind of monogamous, calling women are as women are is in my book a bit out of date.
BM I agree with your statement about ... that it demeans them, (but occasionally they deserve it, as well as we guy's deserve some remarks).
Reading through two sites written by Scandinavian men, who are very nice about their exes, i got nevertheless the idea that the women left their husband because of unrealistic ideas about how her new life would be and that it is at least for a large part about money, be it the idea that it sweetens everything or a misunderstanding what a forklift driver or a truck driver earns and what one can do with that money.
Reading the Russian side of this forum i get again the idea that men are the only romantics and that women to much think about their position in society, not about happiness in the long run.
I have also read a Dutch site written by Russian women who gave me an other insight, (that marriage can be as i want it to be, namely a partnership between equals)
A little remark though the women are VERY negative about Russian men, my believe is once they cross the border they will be very negative about their new men.
I might be willing to believe that the that write on this forum are (too) young girls who think that being pretty is all there is. There is some growing up to do, but it could be on your cost.
Horses live in herds, the upper male brings them to the greener grass and protects them against dangers.
15 million years ago men lived like that, since then we walk on two legs and developed a brain, are going to school and are living kind of monogamous, calling women are as women are is in my book a bit out of date.
Ron, good points...But it just depends on the woman, agreed? My fiance is satisfied with my level of comfort in US. She seems much more concerned about moving here re: leaving home, friends, family, EVERYTHING she has ever known. Sure, most FSU women see movies and think everyone is wealthy, nice cars, homes, etc. That is the reason men need to take pictures with them (like I did) on their trips and show the lady pics of house, car, neighborhood, family, etc. so they have a more realistic picture of 'normal' life in USA.
Ron, good points...But it just depends on the woman, agreed? My fiance is satisfied with my level of comfort in US. She seems much more concerned about moving here re: leaving home, friends, family, EVERYTHING she has ever known. Sure, most FSU women see movies and think everyone is wealthy, nice cars, homes, etc. That is the reason men need to take pictures with them (like I did) on their trips and show the lady pics of house, car, neighborhood, family, etc. so they have a more realistic picture of 'normal' life in USA.
Nice joke as long as everyone understands it is a joke.
1 i have microwave, can opener, oven and deepfreeze, pizza and many other premade diners.
2 guy's have a high dirt tolerance (compared to women?)
3 i'm not sure i can handle that, i thought it should be an angels between the sheets.
5 Why not some sound like hired help.
Ron why to spoil a good joke??? There is no answer needed to the joke...I just wanted to show another variant. And I can answer the same to the stated about women, but I like humor too much to spoil it...my words may sound hard, but this is what I think:)