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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Profiles - the gentle art of writing them and of reading them. Author Post Buckeyeman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/10/2004 8:27:39 PM   no, it does not mean camping! It means walking etc, in nature...'active rest' means holiday or vacation...'financially secure' usually does not mean rich...means that you can provide for a possible family of three...good luck zuke! sanchopanza Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/11/2004 5:41:51 AM   re.: "... We here don't like living in debt...." -it may belong in another thread, but... What happens (what is likely to happen) when the young and innocent bride from the FSU comes to a country where a lot is financed by debt? -like Houses, Cars, and yes those infamous store cards... -and a country where it can ruin you to go to hospital (a good reason for health insurance)... You may get a good pay, but most of the money is already 'spoken for'!! -and, zukester, your question has further implications (assuming you are living in one of those countries). $40,000 US a year seems enough to support a family. -depending on where you live of course... -depending on your expenses of course... -and assuming that the income continues... -and a few other things which may not be immediately understood by a girl who lives in the FSU... sanchopanza Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/11/2004 5:55:56 AM   "Generous" ( a word often used in Profiles) I feared one of the translations. And nobody has told me that it is not a possible translation: (the following refers to a married couple): The husband spends money and gives money to the wife to satisfy her expectations for a 'reasonable' living standard, while she expects to not having to be bothered about where the money is coming from. sanchopanza Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/12/2004 2:26:12 AM   Quote: "...also, cooking is my hobby, but I have not a amn, whom I can cook...." -I think the translator of her Agency had a bad day! (a bad hair day?) sanchopanza Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/12/2004 2:58:35 AM   Thought of the day: To the women: If you have a beautiful 18 year old daughter it is probably NOT a good idea to post a picture of you and her together in your Profile... Ptichka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/12/2004 12:35:23 PM   zukester as to your questions, Buckeyeman answered really good. 40 000 a year, means very very rich. Sancho, "The husband spends money and gives money to the wife to satisfy her expectations for a 'reasonable' living standard, while she expects to not having to be bothered about where the money is coming from." it doesn't mean generous, it means a very light-minded woman, not serious...something like that. sanchopanza Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/13/2004 1:32:57 AM   1) 'Personal information': US$40,000 sounds like a lot, but it should be seen in context - context of 'environment' (e.g. income/price level) and 'personal situation' (e.g. Mortgage or Rent, Car loan, Boat loan, etc. -and perhaps Business loans[?]..). -some families do very well on less.. -and some people manage to go bankrupt on US$100,000 a year... -Which is why I suggest that an income $-figure alone does not give information enough.... 2) "Generous": Perhaps I am a bit dense, but I still do not know what a woman from the FSU is most likely to mean when she writes that she wants to marry a man who is "generous" ... -before they marry he can spend a lot of *his* money on her, but after the wedding it is *their* money. If he gives her a diamond ring, there is less money for her to buy a dress, and less money for them to buy food... ??? wessman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/13/2004 1:47:12 AM   hey sanch ask her what generous means, everybody seems to lump people into a category these woman are individuals, what generous means to one "plenty of fur coats and jewelry" to another might mean a walk to the icecream parlor for an icecream cone. perhaps you need to know if you can make a woman happy on your income and sure you can don't hook to a gold dogger and share what you have with your partner generously. otherwise you both will be ratholein money on each other. Ptichka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/13/2004 3:06:34 AM   1. Sancho and how a woman from here can know all these things about credits and so on, if he man won't tell her??? If he says, hey I earn 40 000 a year, without telling her how much he does spend, then she will think that this man is so rich....and here you go, meet another victim of misunderstanding, she may want to spend more and won't understand how he with earning so much money is not able to spend a sum over something... 2. Wess you're completely right. And one more thing "before they marry he can spend a lot of *his* money on her, but after the wedding it is *their* money"....so there is no chance to buy each other small presents and surprises, and maybe not small even, after the wedding???:) No possibility to go out???:) sanchopanza Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/13/2004 3:06:38 AM   wessman, 1) the question was meant 'generally'... 2) re.: "...and sure you can don't hook to a gold dogger ..." -which actually leads to 'trying to figure out what she means' before you get too involved... sanchopanza Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/13/2004 3:32:16 AM   Ptichka, and others: re.: Yearly income: I think we agree. The girl needs to get 'all' the information... -actually: this leads to another question: Does she want to know, or does she prefer to let him 'take care of the money'? (practical arrangements as well as responsibility). re.: ".......so there is no chance to buy each other small presents and surprises, and maybe not small even, after the wedding???:) No possibility to go out???:)...": -Of course they can go out. And of course they can buy gifts. If there is money available... But the money can be spent only once! The original question was about the 'likely' interpretation of "generous". (in the context of a woman from the FSU looking for a husband) Ptichka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/13/2004 3:40:18 AM   I tried to express this once...but you see Sancho, many people here treat money lightly, we don't worship it or something like that. There is no money today??? OK they will be tomorrow, there is no problem of waiting. We work hard, and when the food is bought, the public utilities are paid, and there is enough clothes, the rest may be spent in many ways:) Sometimes even those who have very little money spend them much more easier then those who have more money:) OK I don't speak about those who don't have money at all, but about so called "middle class" but remember to put it into FSU's realities:) sanchopanza Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/13/2004 4:05:14 AM   re.: "...There is no money today??? OK they will be tomorrow, there is no problem of waiting. ..." You are 'touching' on an interesting point here: (In the so-called West) the more money you have the more you can borrow, therefore, the more debt you can get into. -And, yes, I do think some people here worship money. -And, I am slowly - very slowly - learning about what women from the FSU mean by the words they use in their Profiles.. -and about their 'ideas' about how a relationship between husband and wife should be... sanchopanza Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/16/2004 4:08:42 AM   Yet another one. According to many Profiles women prefer a man to be 'Strong'. I have now enrolled myself in Body Building and Martial Arts classes... Ptichka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/16/2004 4:12:56 AM   Sancho, "strong" may mean not only physical strength, but what most likely, the mental strength!!! OK some girls like men who are strong physically, but ok it's good if a man can protect his girl, but I think it's better when he creates such situations when such thing is not possible at all!!! sanchopanza Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/16/2004 5:43:41 AM   Some women mention among their hobbies "...walking in the forest..." And many of those have on their Profile a picture taken in such a situation... Many mention that they are good at preparing food. And show picures of well supplied tables (food and wine, etc...) Some Profiles have pictures showing the woman half undressed, on a bed... Now, am I assuming too much here ??? sanchopanza Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/16/2004 5:55:37 AM   re.: "...There is no money today??? OK they will be tomorrow, there is no problem of waiting. ..." Actually, many of my ancestors were peasants, perhaps the 'peasant mind' can be inherited (?)... "No food today, but there will be again after harvest..." does not sound too pleasant... -And, Even in modern times people live with different time horizons... sanchopanza Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/16/2004 6:00:43 AM   Re.: 'Strong' and 'Protecting the girl...' Against what and to what degree are the girls who use the term '..strong man...' in their Profile expecting protection? Ptichka Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/16/2004 7:04:34 AM   Sancho, pictures that girls put in their profiles, depend on how much they can allow themselves to show to everybody. I hope you agree that Internet is a public thing, so everybody can see the pictures, right?:) Well, actually most people I know always have money for food, they don't have money for clothes, for taking a taxi, for going to a bar (any bar), for other things. OK some people just eat potato and some other vegetables just because they don't have the money (and vegetables are rather cheap here) for food and they prefer to buy good clothes or spend the money in another way. It depends on people. As for protection, mostly it's the protection from hooligans. But again to my mind a man should never create such situation in which he need to protect his woman. wessman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/16/2004 1:50:54 PM   $ 40,000.00 is very rich, well suppose you are married with 2 children if you make 40,000 take home after taxes and social security and health care takes about 20% now we are at 32,000.00 a nice house will cost 6-700.00 and a car just one 300.00 a month insurance for house and car that is over 12,000.0 a year now we are down to 20,000.00 well now we need to feed 4 every week and buy gas for the car and entertainment this is going to be 300.00 a week. now we have about 7500.00 left over. savings for college and vacations and money for the wife to get clothes care for the kids doctor's visits and perscriptions now we need an extra 200 a week for daycare cause Mom is working, for 250 a week. yeah 40,000.00 your spinning your wheels. 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