A Toad should know - Plastic worms, way more effective.
However, if you're hungry a small Mepps spoon or an Ondex spinner (= unweighted) is almost as effective as a net.
Flies are for those who've got time to waste and/or think it's a "gentleman's" sport. I fish to catch, and do.
Jet and TD,
I'm just now graduating from exclusively fishing saltwater (boat/surf) to the hopefully less crowded trout environment of the California Sierras.
I inherited a shitload of freshwater equipment from a client whose father passed away recently.
The old man took me fishing twice in the last couple of years to his favorite spot on Hwy 4 near Mosquito Lake.
His method was simple and effective: lures till the dinner basket was full, then flies for catch/release and fun watching the fish jump after a dry fly.
We should all hope to celebrate 79 and be able to hike 1/4 of the pace this old fart kept in the trails.
He was amazing for someone his age!
I don't believe there is the slightest gentlemanly trait in fishing in general or fly fishing in particular.
No way, Jose!
Fish don't expect you to open doors, pull the chair out, bring roses, be well groomed, have a decent job, good manners, classy british accent, higher education or financial status....you don't even need to know how to dance to catch fish.
But I do find fly fishing interesting, although I never tried it on saltwater.
Yes Toad Jet has it down. We are not allowed plastic worms in my favorite hole but yes both. Meps or roster tail anyday but especially fast cloudy water. Flies are not my specialty but if you can see the fish you can catch trout all day long with flies. Even for the beginners with a little help. If you are starving try the guts from another trout and you will see some hard core action on big lake trout. I don't count them though I am rainbow trout spring fed stream fishing purest. Well most the time.
For lake trout try floating power bait about 3 to 4 feet of the bottom. Can't go wrong with mepps or rooster tail either. The biggest thing is don't let them see your line and if you can try to see the fish strike. You will catch 5 times more trout if you can see them tast your lure.
Actually the lake trout of the Great Lakes are caught in water that is well over a hundred feet deep (often much more than 200 feet deep). You look for thermal planes prefered by particular species and the wet "flies" are towed (not "toad") behind the boat by means of weighted outriggers or planes. If using outriggers - you calculate the speed of the boat and the follow to get the lure or fly down to where you want it. When the fish hits the line seperates from the weighted outrigger and you begin the fight which may take well over an hour as the fish runs and turns. Cohos or jacks tend to break the water, lake trout don't.
Yes I only fish for trout in rubber pants...lol. Mostly in streams. When not here in Missouri I like the mountain streams of Colorado and Wyoming. I have never fished in the great lakes. Biggest line I ever use is 2 lb test. Many times with a 1 lb leader. Very different than the big lake trout! I think it would be fun though. We have a lake down south of us that we can catch 8-12 pounders often. For a rainbow on 2 lb test that is a good time and like jet said hours to get it in.
Alas my biggest is only 10 1/2 lbs but I treasure that fish. It took about 1 hour and 20 minutes to land it and that was wading in the stream. I would love to do a river trip in the far west and try some serious salmon fishing as well.
QC,
Do YOU need glasses, lol?
No, this thread has nothing to do with russian women...unless, of course, they like to fish.
My honey from Tyumen does...lucky me.
I always thought that the bigger the catch, the more excitment I could get in fishing.....but the old man proved me wrong in just one stream trout trip.
That was a lot of fun, but never made any definite move to equip myself to start trouting.
Now that I have all this equipment, I have no excuse to put it off any longer.
I feel I need to go to 'fishing School' to learn what much of this stuff is for or called.
It is amazing the fight in a little brookie. Toad I must admit I think you have it right. Though I would still love to fight a monster 20 pounder. I really enjoy the light tackle and find myself bass and crappie fishing with the same rod and reel. It makes that 8 lb bass like landing a marlin. Just be careful as trouting can break you. Specially when you get into the handmade rods and flies...lol You might have to be extra carful not choose any that you yourself toad can not resist...lol
I know what you mean shag...:)
These flies look yummmmy...mmmmmm.
I doubt I'll ever need to buy a single fishing fly.
This man was buying flies, rods and equipment until a month before he passed, so most if this equipment is pretty new and many of the flies are never used, specially the salmon ones.
There are over 3 dozen fly wallets and boxes, 8 fly rods, including a 9' Lamiglass, 9 fly reels, tons of line packs, tackle...you name. Even brand new 2 float tubes for lake fishing.
He loved his fishing equipment so much that made his daughter promise him she'd only give it to someone, instead of selling it on e-bay. neither she, her husband or their kids like to fish much at all. So I lucked out big time.
Like TD said earlier, I like catching and eating what I catch