The Fox and The Grapes
Long long ago there lived a fox who loved to eat. He lived close to a vineyard and he used to stare at the lovely grapes that hung there.
"How juice they look. Oh I am sure these are stuff that melts in the mouth when you have them. If only I could reach them".
One sunny day, the fox woke up and saw the grapes glistening by the sunlight. The vineyard looked heavenly and the grapes looked so luscious that the famished fox could no longer control itself. He jumped to reach them but fell down.
He jumped again. No, they were much higher.
He jumped even more. But they were still out of reach.
He jumped and stretched and hopped but to no avail. Those yummy grapes hung higher than the fox could reach. No matter how hard he tried, the fox could not reach the grapes. He panted and began to sweat out of exhaustion.
Giving up finally, he looked up in contempt and said as he walked away, "Those grapes surely must be sour. I wouldn't eat them even if they were served to me on a golden dish."
So here is another moral of this story: if you are something old, freaky and ugly though pretending to be a cowboy, macho and superhero altogether you have 3 ways:
1. To be sensible not to chase those juicy young model-type ladies and try to find something of your type ("old and horny" as it was said in one of the posts)
2. Do as that fox did, say that the grapes are sour and they are not worth a bit of you
3. Go for your dreams - become the king before you are scammed and a desperate loser after you are scammed and then start blaming everything and everyone around you with no understanding that the problem is inside you!
Really? You actually think I’m a superhero??? That’s special!!
“if you are something old, freaky and ugly - scammed and a desperate loser”
What is it with the Ukrainian people?? Is it in their genetics to lie constantly,,, or is it part of their culture that we hear so much about??
Armin,,,,, is it normal for Ukrainians to insult and offend people they have never met?? Are you also insulting your former or current clients,,, or just the ones you haven’t met yet???
I’m curious,,,, how do you introduce all of your;,, old, ugly, freaky, scammed and desperate loser clients to the sweet, innocent and honest girls of Nikolaev???
Do you lie to your own people as well???
“Guess who has chosen the 3rd way?;)”
Armin,, I have chosen none of the above! If you are an example of a Ukrainian,,,, and I really hope you are not,,,, then I don’t know why anyone would want anything to do with them.
It really bothers the locals, that I have chosen to end my search in Ukraine!
Why does it bother them so much??? Because,,,,, common sense just might catch on,,, and that would send the wrong message to the uninformed new comers,,, who are still eager to spend their money and waste their time.
To anyone who might read this in the future,,, you are probably better off to go with an agency than a independent contractor/operator/hustler/conman!
If you go with an agency,,, you will most likely get the standard scam and a learning experience.
With a local conman, you have no idea of how corrupt or dishonest he is.
I don’t make any money from my posts,,, I’m not a local trolling for the desperate and naïve!!
Wow lony, how solemn you are!) Did I mention your name in my post? Have you ever been my client? How many clients of mine do you know? I try to work only with realistic people and first thing I do is trying to discourage anyone in their desire to find something that they can never find. Do you know how many people stopped wasting their time and money after my consulting? I am not sure you have done just a bit of what I have to stop people being scammed in Ukraine!
But I don't like the people who keep insulting Ukrainians, calling them total scammers, frauds and freaks.
Any time I read your posts I find you offending everybody in Nikolaev. You ask me how I can insult someone who I don't even know? How can you insult everybody in the whole city and country with your paranoiac posts? Do you know all of them? How can you blame me in being dishonest? Have we ever met?
LR wrote:
"Armin,, I have chosen none of the above! If you are an example of a Ukrainian,,,, and I really hope you are not,,,, then I don’t know why anyone would want anything to do with them. "
My mom is Ukrainian. I love my motherland and truly hate the disrespect shown. You chose to base your opinion on a very limited experience in Ukraine and with interaction with .0001% of the population.
“Did I mention your name in my post?” No,,, not by name, but you wrote this!
“pretending to be a cowboy, macho and superhero”
Are there any other members with a country theme to their user name.
“”Guess who has chosen the 3rd way?;)”” If not me then WHO??
It’s beyond obvious that you aimed your insults at me!!
“Have you ever been my client? How many clients of mine do you know?”
No and none! Why would I want to be a client of yours. You call them all kinds of names,,, and insult them,,,, or are you calling people you haven’t met;
“old, freaky and ugly - scammed and a desperate loser”
It’s YOUR own words that are hanging you!! You used the word: “”freaky“”.
“But I don't like the people who keep insulting Ukrainians, calling them total scammers, frauds and freaks.
Any time I read your posts I find you offending everybody in Nikolaev””
For the 1000th time,,, not true!! I only dislike people involved in the scamming business!! Are YOU saying: that everyone in Nikolaev is involved in the scamming business???
A few months ago, you made the claim of something like,,,,,,,,,,, Nikolaev is a nice friendly city with many honest single women,,,, or close. EVERYONE,,, who has been to Nikolaev or knows someone that has, knows much different!!
My time in Nikolaev was very short,,,,, I had the “Date From Hell” and two “no-shows” one sick and one online. But it was the correspondence that did it for me,,,,, 100% scammers! Maybe they are really bad at it,, and it’s just so easy to spot them?!! Guys should only open a letter from someone in Nikolaev if they want amusement!!
My insults are directed at the people involved in the FSU dating fraud!!!
How many is that,,,,?????? But yes, Armin,,, you are on the list!!
If people don’t want to believe my words,,,, check out the words from Armin’s website!!!
http://groomscatalog.com/?p=6
“”Life is too short to spend all days long chatting with scam girls””
Who released that guy from mental hospital?))). More I read of you more I am sure about a strong need in a good psychiatrist for you.
Life is too short to communicate with people like you looony, so I'd better stop)))
Armin:
“But I don't like the people who keep insulting Ukrainians, calling them total scammers, frauds and freaks.
Any time I read your posts I find you offending everybody in Nikolaev. You ask me how I can insult someone who I don't even know? How can you insult everybody in the whole city and country with your paranoiac posts? Do you know all of them? “
When I say,, that I dislike people in the scamming business,,,,, and “You” make the accusation (False accusation) that I hate all the people in Nikolaev or in Ukraine,,, it’s really “YOU” who are saying all the people are scammers.
Is that what YOU truly believe???
You and Rick seem to keep pushing us into liking dishonest people?? Why! Did I miss a pamphlet at customs that said it is required??! I’ll choose who I like, or dislike!
“My mom is Ukrainian. I love my motherland and truly hate the disrespect shown.”
Rick,, why don’t you hate the people that are really disrespecting Ukraine??? The scammers themselves!!!!
lonely... ukrainians are the first citizens complaining about themselves... they are complaining all time about the corruption in their own society... probably thats why Lviv it has very high life standards compared to the rest of Ukraine and they have a behavior towards ethics totally different to the rest o the country
Dnb55,
This may sound funny, but are you a big game hunter? I would expect not because one thing you learn is every hunt is unsuccessful until it isn't. You can hunt day break to dark for weeks and never glimpse the quarry you seek, then in one second you go from failure to success.
Look I'm only a year younger than you, some what over weight (I could lose 40 pounds, but I'm 6'4" so it's spread out. I stared at one womans photo for 5 months. She was 33 and stunningly beautiful. I thought "she's too young, too beautiful, too.....
All the while I was writing a dozen women several times a week. One night I drank a few beers and said what the hell. She write me back the kindest moot open and sincere letter I ever read. She was so sweet I told her several times she was a liar that no one was that nice. She told me "ask all the questions you have, and when you are out of questions, promise to come meet me". 445 letters later in 6 months Ihad no more questions so i went. This was my 4th trip over. Honestly from her letters and her sweetness I was in love with her before I ever got on the plane. When i meet her she was indeed one of the most beautiful women I've ever known. Well it's 16 months later. Her visa application should be approved in September. She has agreed to sign an iron class pre nup but it will never be used. I have meet many women I thought were wonderful in my life, but she is the first one I would never change in any way. She is the woman I have wished for my whole life.
Perhaps you don't watch for scams that well. My advice to you is only date ones that can speak English well enough to not need a translator. That shows they have made a decision to succeed at this project. Then go out, have fun, meet women and you will be unsuccessful until you aren't.
Some bad apples?? You must be joking?! The women in these agencies are more like an orchard that hasn’t been sprayed in 10 years! Be careful where you bite!!
In my years of searching online, I’ve only encountered one genuine sincere woman, and she lives 40 miles away. All of the other women were either patient scammers or impatient ones. Most impatient scammers can be discovered in only a couple letters,,,, but the others are prepared for the long haul.
It’s my experience, that there are no genuine women in these agencies,,, but others have found some. It takes a lot of time to determine a woman’s intensions, and it can’t be done on one trip or one vacation.
Tom here, is the only one to find a woman (recently) on the dating sites, and has spent enough time with her to be reasonably sure she is for real.
Stevc found a nice lady, but he did it on his own and in an lesser known country.
There are more guys doing this on their own,,, without the help of agencies or websites, and are having better luck!! What does this say about the websites and agencies???
When I was in Nikolaev for the 2nd time, I asked someone how many agencies were in Nikolaev,,, they said: 8! Not long ago,, Armin said: 200! Maybe the truth is somewhere in between. If each agency in Ukraine had one successful couple,,, wouldn’t we hear about them more often???
What are these “Professional Marriage Agencies” doing with all of their expertise?
Lonely i don't know if you would hear from all the successful couples from dating sites. I've meet the woman of my dreams right here but wasted a couple years at other scam sites. I truly believe that you can meet the perfect woman right here. I have written fiance.com and offered to write them a testimonial for nothing as i really hope guys start using this service and avoiding the scams. Their answer? Nothing. They aren't interested in testimonials. I'd it want for me coming here during my 20 months of failure no one would know of my failure or impending success. Btw, our visa application was approved yesterday!
I met a very beautiful woman in August, we talk every day and she looks as good or better in person than her online pics.
Not only very attractive but we really clicked with each other right away. While I am sure there are some scam profiles I had way worse luck in Toronto on match.com meeting women who were a complete waste of time, coming to dates dressed as a slob or at the other end of the spectrum thinking they are gods gift to the world and you should just be happy to be breathing the same air they are...
I talk to her every day and we are meeting again in October and plan to spend 3 weeks over Christmas together.
I am pretty sure it will work out but if for some reason it does not I am 99% certain I will never date another woman from Canada again.
Its great being with someone who actually WANTS YOU and RESPECTS YOU and on top of all that looks like she belongs on the cover of a fashion magazine.
As for wanting a "green card" you are dead wrong, while i am sure some do, in the case of my girl she actually would prefer I move to Ukraine, which due to the type of work I do is very viable. I won't make quite as much but with some trips back to Canada I can keep my income at 90% or so of what I make now.