reading your comment I think I should re-offer me working some time in your agency. No pay but the fringe benefits only, OK?
Oh, and I'll bring something for the black eye you're going to run up here ;-)
Felicedate
You would be the same asshole that opened up the forum to one of your ladies and embarassed one of our memebers and caused him to lose contact with that woman over nothing right??
You know absolutely nothing mr. You are a clown.
As far as I am concerned you have zero credibilty.
It was marina who pushed from me to stay with her, I was reluctant. It was marina who wanted sex not me. She organised it and engineered it to make sure it happened not me.
She abused me not the other way around.
She didn't want to clean house you fool. I cleaned the kitchen myself. Then was told off for doing it. You just don't get it do you.
I am not elderly 49 is not elderly. You really are a dick aren't you. If I am ever in whatever god forsaken hell hole you live in I will come and visit you and give you the biggest ass kicking you have ever had you prick.
You truly, truly are a dick.
Everyone please take note of my first sentence. Felicedate runs an agency in Belorus he has no problem opening up this forum and showing it to ladies that frequent his agency. Before you date a girl from Belorus make sure she is not using his agency. because if you post anything on this forum it will be presented to her. He is not to be trusted.
May be you do not know all the history of Izi. Sometimes we just meet person and begin feeling that it is not our person. You can not understand it before you meet him.
And the consequence of it – we are trying to find reason to explain why all is wrong. We begin to notice any small drawbacks and hate these items.
May be some mature person have so high level of expectation that only several people on the world suit it. I respect this position.
Izi. What you is proving my words. You are just pissing off your proud British origin. You lost the right to be called a gentleman. Luckily two members of this forum have found their second halfs with our help and this the biggest award for everything we do.
I will not get down to discuss things with a man who claimes to be RAPED by a girl.
You should take care of your head, the injury obviously left its results.
You know, it is normal when people decide that they do not match. I see such things very often. Actually every month. After the first visit or earlier. That's normal. But this is not normal for a man to tell things like this about a woman. Would you like if a man would begin discussing you and having sex with you in this way after breaking with you?
May be I am from a wild country far behind the "civilized" world but here such things are considered to be insulting and embarassing and I personally would never allow myself to tell this about the last whore not talking about a woman who was considered as a variant for possible marriage.
Damn... ME finding myself a public attorney for women in front of the BRITISH barbarian... This world goes crazy...:-)
Everything you hsav ever writen here in this forum has always been suspect. you have been caught several times so why don't you peddle it sopmewher else
Izi,
You need to step back and let Felice's tactless, moronic and as always, self serving approach run its course into the "irrelelvant and forgotten" bin.
What you do and how you do it is the main reason why I swore off working with agencies in the first place.
Being called a 'gossip' is one of the worst insults any man could be accused of being.
That's what you are, Felice.
You gossip, you cannot resist the temptation of interfering between people who are trying to learn about each other, even if it turns out to be a painful, disapointing, expensive and frustrating experience, like this one is for Izi and Marina alike.
Both of them made mistakes, both of them found out the hard way they do not belong with each other for whatever reasons, and both of them need the time to vent and heal so they can get back to enjoy life as it was before this experience.
We take Izi's side here because he is one of us.
And I personally vouch for the integrity of his intentions in going to e-burg to meet a woman who promised him her best efforts to start the family with children he wanted.
He was lied from the get go, Felice. she never intended to have any more children. could have saved both of them a lot of time energy, money and heart ache if she had been hones. She chose not to be.
His mistake was not being through enough in asking about it.
Both being wrong, i'll side with the one who acted with integrity...Felice, integrity is something you FSU men think is spelled in chinese or martian, because you have none of it.
Toad. For God's sake stop at least you using vulgar language. Your last post has much sense but why should I pick this sense between language shit? I wonder how grown-up and serious people, having serious business like to use all this crap?
Will you forgive my not returning all this dirt you have poured out of you? I hope yes besides my philological education will hardly allow this although I have written a serious work on modern slang.
Toad, try to catch it. I hope you will. My grand dad was a submarine captain, navy officers in Soviet Union have always been considered to be the example of gentlemen. What I learnt from him is whatever bad a woman is you must trat her with all your respect. He always stood up when a woman was entering a room. It can seem strange to you, I too can't do the same but still...
I have nothing against Izi, I can't say that he is not right saying good bye to Marina. Such is life, they don't match. But I will better listen you pouring me with those 10 vulgar words you have in English(Russian has aroung 60000) than telling my consciousness sleep and not protest against such words and attitude towards a woman.
A man who tells that he lost his money on a girl after sleeping with her, living in her house and using her hospitality can not be called a gentleman any more.
Besides something tells me that he got a pretty good saving on dental care during this trip...
I better say this and sleep well than let you think that I keep with this.
What we have here is real crash (not clash) of cultures. To digress to insults is beneath us all. Mistakes are made and as the Toad said this is a place where we find the better path to happiness. We each help one another. Right, wrong, or in between Izi was decieved. Hind site is 20/20 but now he is trying to share his mistakes and his frustrations.
Felice you need to read the forum and understand that Izi was deeply moved to come to Eburg by this woman. He tried at first to dismiss his warnning sighns but it all went to crap. Izi still has feelings about this woman that he is trying to sort out. You are just ignorant of the whole story. How easy is it to get yourself into a bind. As you once said "nobody pulled your tongue". Be kind when you strike a sensative nerve.
Guys, Felice is not a bad guy but he is in buisness so he sees things in a different light.
Izi, your a good guy who stepped in the poop! Hang in there and remember the Romans who tried to conquer your country "Never let the bastards grind you down".
Unclebuck
Anytime Felicedate wishes to apologise to both myself and Marina I will be more than happy to forget all this
Right Jmoluv wherever you are.
If anyone here has an ounce of sense ignore him he has nothiing but ulterior motives and hi attack on me is not anything to do with culture it is just pure simple vindictiveness.
Incidentally by his definition any man that goes to Russia and sleeps with his ladyfriend isn't consumating a relationship. No the man is getting free sex and she is a whore.
What ludicrous nonsense. So Toad I assume that applies to you and Lena and by the way you would be considered elderly also we are the same age.
You too Jet if you are out there and just about most of the guys that visit. When you write to someone for 4 months then meet them it is almost inevitable to sleep together. Unless someone lied about their photo.
As for the money to go. It is an issue, the stuff doesn't drop off trees. It isn't like money was exchanged for sex, that is ridiculous. I went there hoping I was going to marry Marina. I cared deeply for and as a matter of fact still do. She is not a whore she is confused and scarred by her past. Nothing to do with me. If I thought I could turn this around I would.
No Felicedate you have been cruel and thoughtless just as most of your Russian brothers. That is why so many women look abroad. I don't know how many women have now told me about the rigors of trying anything with Russian men. Incidentally the one stipid incident that left me with a couple of stitches was considered laughable compared to most Russian men's expoits. Marina and everybody thought I was silly continually apologising for it.
Your best bet Felice is to slink back off where you came from and leave this forum for men that are from the very countries these women are trying to get to. They seem to have had enough of your types.
TD
Thank you for your comment also. I understood what you meant. I remember Felicidate commenting on his "fringe benefits" of working in the agency. To hear him talk you would think that they are all white as driven snow. Devoid of any sexual feelings. What cock. Then he takes advantage of them by picking on the vulnerable ones entering his establishment. What a hypocrite!
It is not fair to use generalizations. It is bigotry and emotional mind fuck all at the same time. What kind of bourgeois and condescending person comes here to roast other people who are only guilty of striving to live and love better? Live in your own mind and don`t try to use dogma and tomfoolery as your attack on the sincere men of this forum. They are not less than or beneath yourself. We live,we breathe,we ARE. And every single irrational or misspent action helps to develop the person we are. What`s with the downgrading anyway? Is there some reward in feeding off another person`s misfortune? Besides cruel vampirism. I will never understand people who try to talk over another persons head. Felice,you are in a position to offer hope and faith to others. Being a gentleman means being gentle! Not necessarily being a salty sailor of any nationality but a navigator of the spirit. Something I learned about life--every person deserves to be loved-it does not matter what alcohol- puke draining gutter or pile of shit he crawled out of. Care for another man as you would your brother. Love your enemy. Speak to enrich and benefit. Save the negativisms for the thesis on how to alienate people and die lonely and bitter. Izi--never ever give up on yourself or your pretty picture of the woman you want. You will always have friends here. We all know you are a sincere man,and with persistence,you will have what you seek to find. Blaine-champion of the underdogs and oppressed.
LMAO...I knew that if I blew a gasket on this guy someone else would bring words of conciliation, hope and healing....Spirit, you have a nice touch. I'll fix you a martini any time, mate.
Izi,
Take the weekend off..go get well laid and shit-face drunk. Come back anew, hungover and without remorse for what could have been.
The best lessons we learn in life are often the most painful ones. Be grateful for them.
OK. Some understood, some don't. Under any emotional background, whoever the woman you met was, wherever yuo are talking about her, do not let yourself talk badly about her. This is just something that a MAN should do and not begin whitewashing himself(I was so touched, so wounded).
I am far from being white and fluffy. I have always thought that women are far beyond men in their developement. I have always known the truth about the majority of Russian women but I would never tell to a lady that "I lost money" on her.
Who in this life deserves an apology is Marina from Izi. If you don't understand why - I was 100% sure.
And yes. I would probably leave this forum for the "white" race. Good luck.
Felice takes his job seriously and is very protective of the women he represents. He does not take advantage of them because he has a beautiful one of his own. Sometimes he writes in the Forum to exspress a different view but it is not to hurt or belittle anyone.
Each society has different inputs as to what makes life work in their society. You don't show the bottoms of your feet in some and you never serve with your left hand in others. The very traditions that make the FSU woman desirable also form their views on much more. Just as you were testing Marina maybe she was testing you also. It is so easy to become wrapped up in our loving emotions and miss or forget that their social system formed thier ideas too.
I only spoke out to get you all to see that we must seek balance based on streangth but also we must be flexable and observent.
I can tell you that I have made mistakes with my lady and if it were not for Felice I would not have her now.
I know that you are hurtting and i also know that it is exspressed through frustration. But, we should find the high road or we are doomed to repeat our mistakes over and over again.