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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Police corruption in Ukraine Author Post Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/10/2008 5:06:24 PM   oz, The figures I referred to were including 15k of suitcase and I think 3k of carry on, none of this low cost carrier nonsense of 10k carry on when the overhead bins probably do not have the capacity to hold everyone having 10k and it wasn't referring to US domestic flights either. Me help the airlines? Where do you think I learnt it from, I haven't helped an airline for, ooh let me think, oh yes it was 10 days ago when I helped the cabin crew out on my flight back from Antalya, the flight was full, I was jumpseating it as crew, so I had a choice of sitting in the flight deck talking to pilots or having a laugh down the back. Land of oz Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/10/2008 7:21:59 PM   The 30/10 that I mentioned was on Ukraine International Airlines web page but you are right the limits for their internationals are 20/10 but it seems there was a special note of less if the plane came from Heathrow. The last I looked the US International flights allowed 2 checked items up to 50 lbs each which if they were loaded to the max would be 45 kilos plus carry on and I think you are allowed 10 kilos carry on plus your notebook or camera separate. The little puddle jumpers sometimes take the carry on when you board and stow it returning it to the cabin door at landing but those guys have no lack of power to weight. If they are behind schedule you better chew and swallow fast on the way into the sky. The last time I went to Ukraine they popped the ears on a boy in front of me and a man across the aisle but gained 20 minutes on their schedule on a 2 hr 21 minute flight. Land of oz Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/10/2008 9:05:24 PM   It looks like you will need to check the American airlines from now on as some of them are starting to charge for any checked luggage. It looks like some of the rates are $15 for the first piece, $25 for the second, and $100 for each additional (50 lb limit) each direction. So for 2 checked bags you would be looking at an additional cost of $80 per round trip. If you are bringing someone with a lot of luggage that cost may be more than the airfare when you get into more than 2 pieces. beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/10/2008 10:09:35 PM   Oz...as far as I know, checked baggage is charged on domestic flights, on international flights first checked bag is free. I will find out in October since I have flight to Frankfurt with American. My flight to Costa Rica last month there was no charge on my checked bag. Land of oz Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/10/2008 10:30:40 PM   I flew US air and Lufthansa and I looked US air now charges but not if it is connected to an International flight and Lufthansa does not charge yet. US air started charging with tickets purchased after July 8, 2008. But I imagine that once a few start the rest will follow. Land of oz Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/10/2008 10:38:46 PM   American looks like you are still allowed 2 70 lb checked and a 40 lb carry on for europe and asia. http://www.aa.com/aa/i18nForward.do?p=/travelInformation/baggage/baggageAllowanc e.jsp Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/11/2008 2:41:00 AM   In Europe the charging for checked-in baggage has been introduced by the low cost carriers, coincidentally since pax are not allowed liquids in their hand baggage thus if a pax has liquids then must pay to check the bag in, but I don't know of any of the state airlines introducing this scam. The very reasons that I fly with regular carriers is that I like to check-in as a human being and not be herded like cattle, I like to be able to select my seat from the internet the day before and without paying a surcharge for it, I like to sit in a comfortable environment without some clown in casual dress trying to sell me a stale sandwich and lukewarm coffee and, to the contrary, I like to be offered a sandwich, beer and coffee and without paying extra for it. If these state airlines start taking the p1ss like the LCC's do then I shall do my utmost to boycott them. KLM (owned by Air France) are getting more and more cheeky, I fly with them several times a year and, until now, I normally booked directly on their website, they did accept payment by bank transfer but now they insist upon a card payment for which they charge an extra GBP4 or 5 for. Well fock that, I now book with ebookers.com whereas it works out slightly cheaper with ebookers not charging for the card and, for being mean, KLM are paying a commission of the fare I pay to ebookers for the booking. Maxirat Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/11/2008 5:25:21 AM   If this weight issue is so important to the economics and safety of flight - then I strongly recommend that all ticket pricing is done on Passengers personal weight. Then I wont be so pissed off when the person beside me takes up half my seat and snores his head off, when I know he has paid twice my fare !!!!!!! Jetski - you done a sneaky "go back" pressure building was it :-)))))) Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/11/2008 5:36:29 AM   Maxirat, But then, when booking online, passengers would need to declare the weight and, ultimately, this was cause airport toilet congestion as all passengers would be going for a sh1t before checking-in :) Land of oz Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/11/2008 2:56:32 PM   Yes and following what Martin said the airlines have been fine with the free checked luggage until the profits got tight or went negative. Also to play there most of the decision makers are probably overweight so if they put a surcharge on overweight passengers then they are goring their own ox. So it is probably a subtle way to either raise more money or discourage the extra weight so they use less fuel but to keep their face sticker price competitive with the other airlines. I am sure my luggage has cost them out of pocket the last two flights I took first to hire private delivery to Dnepropetrovsk when I landed in Kiev without my luggage and the last time to fed ex my luggage 150 miles to my house when it missed my connection in Frankfort. Both times I had to run from a late plane to catch my next one and they were not able to keep up with my checked luggage. And had I turned in a claim for not having it it would have cost them more. Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/11/2008 3:29:55 PM   oz, Once Turkish had to pay me $400 for my week in Tashkent without my suitcase mind you it was no fun in the heat of an Uzbek summer with just the clothes on my back. KLM had to deliver my baggage to my home back in January this year and because they p1ssed me off I stuck in a claim for the case being damaged which they eventually paid also. And please don't think that the decision makers in airlines actually pay for their tickets and please don't think that the major US airlines have not been losing money for mega years and most, if not all, have filed under chapter 11 at one time or another. bowhunter Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 8/15/2008 10:18:03 AM   how many have lost lugage on these flights Silverfoxer Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/3/2009 12:41:44 PM   Hi all - I am new here and was scanning for anything about police corruption and found this forum. I am married to a Russian who lived in the ukraine. She now lives with me in England and has become a British Citizen. I have two tales to tell. The first was at Odessa airport in the summer of 2008. I arrived to book in only to be told I was too late and the flight was closed. This was crap as I was three quarters of an hour early. I protested and was told to "get lost". I demanded to see the airport manager and I was not budging until I saw someone who could explain what was going on. There was a heads-down that included the airport cop. He came to me and said that it was okay but I needed to pay a "gate fee" as I should have been there earlier. How much - I asked? $40 he said. I said get the manager. Heads down again and then he came back and waved me through but very pissed about it. I get to the booking in booths and handed my ticket to a young czeck airlines guy who could only just keep himself from laughing. There was a well-dressed woman standing nearby from the Gov or big bussiness and she was trying to get seats and fully booked flight for herself and two cronies. The Czeck guy is having great fun telling her she is out of luck and she went away pissed off too. On the flight to Prague I went over it in my head and realised that someone was on the take/make by blocking a few passengers to make room for madam and her pals. She only had to ask and she could have my ticket for $1500! My second tale was in driving to Odessa from England and I was stopped twice by the police. The pull you over because you have a foreign number plate and they can intimidate you. The first time was at about 2.am and on a straight road. Dotted line so I can pass an old van no problem. I have no idea what drain the bastards were hiding in but suddenly they were behind me. I pulled over and the cop went the wrong side of the car and made a prat of himself. The steering wheel is on the right side of a British car. He told me it is a very dangerous road and there is no overtaking allowed and Blah - blah and it went on. I could be arrested and the car would have to be impounded at $100 a day until it all got sorted out and this might take weeks. They are driving a very clapped out Skoda and the cop's mate is fast asleep in the passenger seat! BUT - if they don't have to fill in the forms and I pay $55 then we can forget about it - okay? At first I was anti this idea but I was tired and fed up with the crappy roads. I paid and asked for a receipt. I knew the answer but you have to go there don't you? He got back in the police car and I knocked on the window and told him one of his back lights was not working and to watch out for the real cops. Off he went with a scowl and a cloud of exhaust smoke. As you go into Odessa there is a roundabout with a lump of scrap metal piled up in the middle of it - I think it is "art". There is a small police hut there and the cops love pulling any foreign number plate. You get the bollocks as I got from the last one but this sod went off with my vehicle registration document. I won't go into it too much but the family has a friend who has a friend who knows someone with clout in the police force. He wanted to know the number of the cop car (UA police do not have numbers or name badges. The cop got a call and came back with a different attitude but I had to buy back my document for $120! I really wanted to get the wheelbrace and get this guys full attention. I was not in the best of moods for the rest of the day. Like a bear with a sore head you could say. There cannot be much worse than a bent cop? I think that is what got to me the most. I can see the worst kind of driving on the worst kind of roads in cars that belong in the crusher and I am getting a hard time for driving a well maintained, fully insured car properly!! The hint and suggest at alternative ways to fix "the problem" and you don't wether to laugh or belt them in the mouth. This a good reason why they are getting a hard time in joining the EU because the rest of the world knows what really goes on and it a habit thay are having a hard time in breaking as it is a fundamental way of life. Wait until I get back home. They are not going to steal money from my pocket and get away with it. Watch this space. Regards to you all - Doug ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/3/2009 2:22:17 PM   My gf recently went from Kerch to Moscow by train - a 27 hour trip. On the way there, I assume at the Ukraine, Russia border, she said there was police checking for passport. She said one woman was kicked out. On the way back, they again checked for passport, and she had to pay an equivalent of $15 USD to the police as a bribe for letting her go through. This is a Ukrainian with a valid passport. kiwinorth Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/9/2009 4:01:34 AM   yeah interesting ragingbull, i know a dude who is the go between for the people and customs on one of the Ukraine Russian border trains, customs have it tired up nicely, russian side. any slight problems with paperwork or passport it seems.. he also had to pay 15% of his earnings to customs "and maybe police" offices for allowing him to work on the train from his so called legal earnings, as well as holding the customs dodgy stuff until end of their shift so they stay safe. basically if he dont help he dont work. i have yet to be burnt by any government lot other then a 70-80 year old lady who ran away with my 3.50 hryvnia of change, well fast-ish walk out the back door of a shop: ) otherwise its the wrong change given, really its such a pitiful amount to there pitiful wages who cares.. Land of oz Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/10/2009 11:03:26 PM   My wife is kind of disappointed with the police here in the states. I got stopped for speeding and she suggested I give the officer a 20 dollar bill and send him on his way. I told her that does not work in the states. But on the other hand with the casinos and banks getting blown up in Dnepropetrovsk the last month or 2. Law and order is a good thing. Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Police corruption in Ukraine
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