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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > most popular scam in Ukraine now Author Post ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/25/2009 2:01:35 PM   I agree with bear. Any girl will be looking for someone who can and will care of them. I have not been in great financial health lately. I don't have a home for her, at least not yet. I gave up my home to get away from my last wife. My gf is still with me. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/25/2009 2:10:27 PM   Thanks for the info, Nasfan. I called WDT. There is a 39 cent connection fee to get the 7.9 cent rate. I only call her for less than five minutes at a time, so it might not be the way to go. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/25/2009 2:26:14 PM   Beemer, my first Ukrainian girl in Kiev was a very good singer. I still have her CD of nineteen songs. I don't understand 98% of the words, but it is great music for fast and slow dancing, especially her love songs. I had it translated. She was also an actress, very beautiful and a former host to a TV variety show in Dnepropestrovsk. I have dated only one other girl in five years since my divorce. She captivated me, and took me a long time to get over her. She had another man, or men and had another agenda. I told the story one time before, but I left her in the middle of the night. The doctor in Zaporozhye would have been a mistake. She was pretty, but her body was much too flat for me. I already told you some of the things that she was that repulsed me, but I was never good at dating and I wanted to go back to work. She was also a bad mother. She was constantly hassling her boy for things that could not be helped. I didn't have doubts about her being a doctor until I thought about it much after our meeting. Having a doctor for a wife, was appealing. As an accountant, I worked with doctors most of my life and it would be easy for me to put up a profitable clinic. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/25/2009 4:37:30 PM   Sometimes, you just talk yourself into things. I just got through two loveless marriages totaling 17 years. Listening to the actress in Kiev's CD's did not help in getting over her. As I got back from Ukraine, I looked at her pictures and memories of her. There was her CD. I didn't hear her sing at all in person, but her CD just captivated me. She sang it with emotion and the music rivaled any waltz music I ever heard. I just had to have it translated. That's when I decided that I needed to feel the feelings she described again. I decided to go back to Ukraine. I was back in three months. There was Tanya, the doctor waiting for me. I have not listened to it in a long time, but here are the lyrics of my favorite song from her... It will get dark in your eyes Just like a path of the autumn orchard( garden) The feather will sway Just like a flood of the mad river Because of the sad farewell Quiet and helpless tear Will not warm up By your warm and dear hand We are not a strangers anymore And there is not closer people than we are I don’t believe in fairy tales And in this sudden unexpected dream In a sorrow of saying goodbye Right now our next meeting is lightning up And it flies and burns Just like a comet an empty train station No one will cry out this time And our tears at a night time And will not going to tell us That rain in August and Snow in January No one will cry out the time When I am going to wait for you And will tell about us Not a sun and a moon in the skies nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/26/2009 5:48:47 AM   RB it works for us since Larysa talks to her friends for an hour or more each time. I was checking the bill one day and saw we were paying 13 cents. Try tel3advantage they used to have some real decent rates. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/26/2009 11:48:14 PM   Thanks, Nasfan. I will look into that and consider the 7.9 cents and the connection fee when and if I get her over here. figgis Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/27/2009 3:23:16 AM   Have you looked at SKPE, i have used it and it is very cheap. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/27/2009 12:45:43 PM   Thanks, figgis. I will look at that also. Mini Cooper Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 4/28/2009 5:44:06 PM   ragingbull, I use skype exclusively. 18.6 cents/minute to Ukraine mobiles and 15.4 cents to landlines. For computer to computer... chat, audio and video the calls are free. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/27/2009 8:56:56 PM   Please refer to my post 4/24. I did tell the doctor I am going back in the summer shortly I got back in November, 2008. My current schedule is September. I had not heard from her since - until today. I just got an e-mail from her. Her hard drive went out. All of her pictures are gone. She wants me to e-mail her the pictures of her son, me and her at the park and the pictures we took on Valentine's Day, 2007. In other words, all of our pictures together. She says she cried for the last two days because all of the pictures from her hard drive are gone. I know the pictures of her ex-husband are there and probably pictures of others who visited her. I am just going to e-mail her the pictures. I might visit her if my gf and I do not follow through. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 5/31/2009 10:52:13 AM   Ha ha.... I got another e-mail. She thinks I'm meeting with her this summer. I never said such thing. MY DEAR THANKS YOU the BIG THAT YOU HAVE sent me PHOTOS, I AM very happy, THAT YOU HAVE kept mine And ÈËÜÈ the PHOTO. AS At YOU BUSINESS, AS the LIFE I TODAY ALREADY ON the AZOV SEA Also CAN not WRITE MEAL to YOU IF I SHALL buy the MODEM I CAN WRITE to YOU And IF is not present I SHALL write to YOU WHEN I SHALL return With my YEARS JOB KISS YOU YOU GENTLY. UP TO the MEETING. life of Riley Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/4/2009 5:22:51 PM   Dream marriage is pretty much all scam. The girls make a % of the money that the man pay's. Video chat, translations, flats, flowers and each girl is told if the man shows up in her city she must meet with him at least once. Most of these girls are making from $500 to $800 a month. Olga Moderator send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/4/2009 5:28:48 PM   good for them, you pay for entertainment:) life of Riley Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/5/2009 10:46:37 AM   Olga, it would be good if the men were wanting or seeking this type of entertainment. Unfortantly most of these men, although not the brighest of men, were sincere in hoping to find a good Russian or Ukraine wife. Instead they got, and are getting, scammed. figgis Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/6/2009 6:05:32 AM   Thats a fair comment, how do you know if you are being scammed if you have never been scammed before. What if you go into a marriage agency with the intention of finding someone to get to know and get married eventualy. It gets your goat when someone says you should have known better. Is there no place in the world for honesty anymore. It seems that a vast majority of the agencies a rife with scammers and that is not for me to be embarassed about if i was a decent ukranian i would be embarrassed by it, the agencies are making the women virtualy untrustworthy and that is down to the people who run them and they are ukrainian and russian. If i was stupid enough to fall for a scam oh really yes thats right it was all my fault i am guilty for being stupid, dont worry about the scumbag scammers they are accepted they are ok dont worry about them, lets just laugh at the victims. figgis Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/6/2009 8:40:07 AM   Thing about dream marriage is some of the girls enter into it with the best intentions. if they are popular they then get cash incentives from the agencies, the very young girls mostly sit and chat and do nothing else. I know a young woman there her agency has a policy that a girl has to be available to chat 24 hours a day. The damage is done by the older women of the age where they could marry you and you wont feel like a perv. The girl i met has offered to communicate via yahoo messenger because she does not like the way her agency treats her and uses her as a commodity, maybe this girl could turn out to be sincere only time will tell. ragingbull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/6/2009 6:48:31 PM   Well said, Riley, figgis. I will not call you stupid. People in this forum are not tollerant. Being scammed by beautiful women or being scammed at all. It is easy to say it is so if you know it. But until you know it, you just don't know. Sushi_Boy Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/26/2009 7:14:25 AM   I have been visiting odessa for the last 4 years....i am married to a ukrainian girl...we have two sons. aged 2 and 1 month. My wife has a many friends.....nearly all of them scam....there is maybe 40% that dont scam. However the ones that dont scam are not on any dating websites!!!.. The girls on the dating websites are ALL scammers!.....heres the deal.....they all want to scam you initially...but may be 5% of them actually fall in love....to conclude scam first...and then accidently have genuine feelings. Most of them have exsisting local boyfriends. They want YOU to buy presents and spend money on them. When i first arrived to Ukraine...i went to an English language school and asked for Russian Lessons. Thats how i met my wife. I didnt pay for anyone...all other sytudents and teacherss were happy to hang out with me to improve there english. Scamming is a industry in Ukraine....they are financially dependent on western men. I have local knowledge and it is conclusive that what local girls expect from a western man is totally differnet from a local man!!! nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/27/2009 4:08:42 AM   Nearly all scam but 40% don't? I think you have your facts wrong. My wife has many friends who are on dating sites and not one of them is a scammer. This is almost the same story told by "The Gob" who popped in for a haircut and found the woman of his dreams. Maybe most women in Odessa scam, since it's probably the most criminal city in Ukraine right now, with trafficing in women and Russian mob influence. So your local knowledge isn't conclusive for the rest of Ukraine I don't know why guys are so transfixed on scammers. Like this is something new under the sun. Like discovering them is some rare treat. Yes tje women expect something different from a western man and it has nothing to do with gifts and money. This prose is beginning to sound vaguely familiar. devilmaycare Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 6/27/2009 8:32:04 AM   I agree, it varies a lot by country/city I think. What sushi_boy is probably true for Odessa but odessa is definitely the worst place in FSU to meet girls. 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