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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > RUW sexuality Author Post fjaeril Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/11/2004 7:26:10 PM   ' You took wesman's comment out of context. ' but the full quote IS the context. '...he has the right to state a mans opinion...' and everybody has the right to form their own opinion after reading his statement. and if russian girls think that the way to a man's heart is through his stomach, they are in most cases aiming too high! jmoluv Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/12/2004 5:44:48 PM   i am confused here, is this fjaeril a women or a man? jmoluv Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/16/2004 3:42:51 PM   It's an old pschychopath, which used to have a willy. Its departure has caused all kinds of havoc, socially as well as physically. The normally inseparable friends of aforementioned departed part were never present hence the numerous names. idiotdetector Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/18/2004 5:05:09 AM   Jet- that will be $5 for copyright idiotdetector Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/18/2004 5:05:29 AM   same for ferral wtrav02 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/20/2004 4:14:44 PM   I have started coming back to this site and reading some of the posts and it is a handful .. I am surprised this post came back to the front line as an exchange of short sentences between new members, but I want to say it is an embarrassing post that I should not have written back then and some other posts that I wrote on this site are embarrassing as well. Although many of the points that I wrote still stand after more than 2 years since my first exchange of letters, the manner in which I expressed emotions in the past on this site such as surprise facing cultural differences, blind patriotism and rejection of others was simply ridiculous. For this I apologize to this site and other members who happened to read or write replies at the time. The truth is that different people have different experiences and the way we express our thoughts reflects on others who are new to this endeavor of finding that loved one we all dream in the other end of the world. I want to say one thing here. My overall experiences in my various trips to Ukraine are unforgettable memories today. I interacted with people who were interestingly different and very friendly. There are many good women with an incomparable sense towards finding their man and making a family. The value of togetherness and family is such that I had never known before in my own family and in my own country. I would strongly recommend to all of those who have not made the trip to do so as soon as they can. Please keep an open mind for whatever new experience you encounter and be respectful to the people of Ukraine or any other Eastern European destination you decide to visit because they truly desrve your respect. Some women may look inappropriately dressed for western standards but that does not mean they are of low moral fiber by any means. Fashion is different in different countries and let's face it for example plastic body parts such as boobs and noses are common here but bring laugh to people in other countries. Women are proud and many have to work hard in their own lives to obtain those clothes, which I so irresponsibly laughed upon at the time. Most people are poor but proud and if you get to know them, you will feel very comfortable as if you were in your own home. Of course be suspicious when warranted just like when in any other country, but do consider that things that may look different to you may also simply be the norm in Eastern Europe. Best of luck to all! Annika77 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/21/2004 5:56:13 AM   Thank you, you write so nicely. I really would like to exspress so well myself! jetmba. Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/21/2004 10:21:30 AM   Welcome back wtrav.... where have you been so long? Any news or developments of late? Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/21/2004 1:30:51 PM   Wtrav - I'd be interested to hear more as well. You seem different than your old self, and if you yourself know why chuck that in also. I also reread what was said then, and don't think that, glossing over just details, any undue things were mentioned? shaggy47435 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/21/2004 1:43:29 PM   Yes, wtrav02 I must say I would like to hear more to as it would seem that you have found some new insights? Just be careful some people will call you a cry baby if you share to many of your feelings...lol...sorry it is not related. No I am new in the last couple of months I do appreciate your post as you seem to honestly share your experiences. It does help us out that have not yet made the journey. wtrav02 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/21/2004 2:57:13 PM   Jet and Thunder, it's great to see you again through your writing. Annika77 and Shaggy47435 it's nice meeting you both. I don't mean to be dramatic, but I certainly have noticed some sort of transformation in myself. I think the driving force for this is the happiness and peace that I found with the woman that I am married. I have become more tolerant and confident to not bother if I am called a cry baby. In fact, if being in love and expressing it publicly and admitting one's past mistakes is called cry baby, then I proudly echo the statement. I went through some very difficult situations the last several months personally and my wife was there to support me and endure the hardship in a manner that totally left me speechless. We have reached a level of togetherness and support that is well beyond the level of simple physical contact. We have literally no secrets from each other and a level of understanding that makes as both feel like one person. It may sound boring to others, it would sound boring to me 2 years ago, but my wife and I are very very much in love. Love has different manifestations for different people. I have come to believe there are people who were born to give love to one person and accept love from one person, and people who need to be convinced first that they can sense the same feelings before they reciprocate. My wife belongs to the first group, I belong to the second group. I am almost in tears when I think of the young girl I met in the airport in Kiev 2 years ago and how nervously surprised I was by how beautiful she looked. The long wait with many bumps that we both endured, more for her, until she got her visa to come to the USA. The nights when she was waiting at her small bed my call and she was singing me songs on the phone. The love that she gives me so plentifully that I never felt like this in my 37 years. It's been more than a year of marriage and I can say I only wish I live long to be with her, for I want to cherish every moment of my life with her. She gives true meaning to my life. I do want to have kids in a couple of years. I never felt like I wanted to be a father in the past, but now this is changing. As far as the corrections in the comments I made more than a year ago, they are warranted. I have met people from Ukraine and they are great people. My wife's parents are the best people I've met and maybe if they weren't who they are, Yulia would not be the person she is with me today. They gave her all their love and care when she was with them and I believe her ability to love like she does results to a large extent from the fact that she felt so loved and secure in her childhood. If anyone read that far I say bravo because to most people all this talk about love sounds very boring, but this is how I feel and it feels great! P.S. Jet, from some of your posts here and there, I understand you had a hell of a time with the two Moldovans, but then something happened? can you fill me in? Thunder, you are like the redwood tree, you stand firm and tall across time, what happened with the young girl, you've got to share some personal stuff here also my friend. Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/21/2004 4:15:31 PM   Well well well Wazzup, Really damn glad to hear it all, and without reservations a pat on yer back. Oh, whilst busy, pass on a hug to her as well, you make her sound awesome. Your story could, maybe should, have a spin-off here. You see, plenty of guys here have been over, some novices as well, and loads of subjects are, have been and likely will be touched, some repetitive/recurring even. However, one single quantity is hardly ever touched, and if so approached only from the future-tense. You could change that, but of course only if you’re willing to do that. You did what all wannabe’s here (me included) want, but there’s more. You also managed to bridge an age-diff which is larger than the average, with it meaning the norm I’d say valid with the girl next door. Some here are looking at an even bigger one (Jet), others don’t, but I think it safe to say that many will not only take such difference for granted, they in fact want it – never mind the reasons for such now. The fact that you’re married now, and live in a country notoriously and increasingly difficult to get in to as a foreigner, you are in a position to elaborate somewhat – or a lot – about the potential hazards of, let’s call it the acclimatizing process – of both! I’ve already read about really unforeseen problems occurring, and I’d be surprised if you (plural) would not have had some. In fact I’ve hinted at this already, but if I remember correctly this was after your departure here – which was roundabout when I posted that thread about the girl you mention. She read it and predictably exploded, but we’re in contact since, or still – a communicatus interruptus. What I wrote then is still true, she’s a rare gem – and too young for me. Your age group is what she needs and I’ve got no doubt she’ll find somebody, maybe has. Me too, bought & cancelled dual tickets this year, and wishing I was in Egypt right now – no, don’t ask. However, that’s what I will do – shed some light on the “after” here, as the ‘before’ is been mulled over enough I think? izifaddag Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/21/2004 8:36:26 PM   Would appreciate knowing more about that age difference Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/22/2004 11:38:28 AM   Then dig into past threads here Izi, it's all up for grabs, just find it. wtrav02 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/22/2004 1:45:10 PM   Hello Izi, The only problem with age difference is a practical one. When you retire, she will still be working. If she doesn't work and you're a healthy, strong guy, you can manage just fine. I've seen men in their early thirties looking as if they need some major renovation and then 60 year olds look and ACT as if they were 20 years younger. Father Bush jumped from a plane in his 80th birthday, Kerry is windsurfing in his sixties and even bad ass Clinton is going for UN secretary after he had heart surgery. These are politicians so everyone knows what I'm talking about. If I spoke about my neighbor, none would believe. By the way, my grandfather and I plaid soccer until he was in his mid-seventies. He was playing the goalkeeper and his reflexes were amazing. He is still doing very well in his mid-eighties. If you ask him how many years he plans to be active (I am not talking about how many years he will live, I am talking about being active), he'll reply: "ask me the same question when I am 100, then I will start thinking of it". So, everything is relative. Take care. izifaddag Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/22/2004 2:21:30 PM   Lots of insight there. I am becoming more comfortable with this idea. The ladies don't seem to have any problem with it though. It is a hard one to get used to because a beautiful 32 year old western woman would generally not look twice at a 49 year old guy. I guess you could call it mental conditioning. GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/22/2004 4:50:28 PM   izi izi izi...wrong again, lol They sure look twice at men our age, lol...And you they're thinking something along the lines of "how can I get this old geezer to pay for my bills without having to have sex with him" toad GLTALLTOAD Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/22/2004 5:05:50 PM   buran, You're trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. The general rule of thumb all over the globe is that crime and unscrupulous people come from family backgrounds lacking proper, formal or advanced education levels which goes hand in hand with limited economic resources...in other words, poor people. Of, course there are exceptions, which do nothing more than prove there is a general rule. toad izifaddag Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/23/2004 12:22:01 PM   "They sure look twice at men our age, lol...And you they're thinking something along the lines of "how can I get this old geezer to pay for my bills without having to have sex with him" I think I disagree. One has to be reasonable but I think that they genuinely seem to not mind older men. Despite whatever I have read in Elena Petrovas book though, I definitely think there is an element of gold digging. I say this is in a very low key way though. Here is an example that I have happening now. I was written to by an absolutely stunningly beautiful 36 year old from Mariupol. She has a nice 7 year old daughter and is divorced. Her English is appalling but the letters are very nice. There is a sadness vibe I am picking up. It is to do with her job, ex husband, being alone, her stepfather dying etc. This is genuine, definitely not a scammer. She reads and replies quite promptly. She really is interested in a guy 13 years older. Maybe not when she sees these picture I just picked up today but that is another story! I couldn't help but check with my Ukrainian friend. He told me Mariupol is a depressed city, it has nothing but industry and is not a good place for a young beautiful woman. There is no future for her daughter and barring a miracle there will never be enough money to escape somewhere else like St Petersburg. He said there will always be food, clothes and a roof over their heads but that is it. A bleak future awaits. His opinion obviously colors my view of this. I don't discount the lady at all but I have to take into consideration that maybe she is just trying to use me to escape. If not for herself then for her daughter. Funnily enough I have no problem with this because I genuinely feel that this isn't a sex for greencard deal. Or the way Toad described it. This real life example illustrates the problem that I constantly weigh, especially when they approach me. I have only written cold to 2 women. One seems to have tailed off and the other never responded. I have tons write to me through Fiancee. 99% I decline. This one I have described might be that middle ground I am looking for. I feel that there will always be a slight business aspect to all this. I am looking for a younger, beautiful, intelligent woman I can spend the rest of my life with. She is looking for security, a family and a better way of life with the possibility of a future for her daughter and if romance and real love get thrown in that is a gigantic bonus. So I am cautious but I am trying to be fair and realistic. They are not necessarily looking for someone to pay the bills for no sex. Thunderdome Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/23/2004 1:04:40 PM   So? You're busy buying a ticket and will go over soon to have a look then? If yes OK, if not not OK, because then YOU are trying to form an opinion by means of letters only. And that is as realistic as her 'trying' to escape' as you call it, in your self-made opinions about her which you only may do correctly by visiting her/them. Off you go then... Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > RUW sexuality
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