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	Create New Topic   My Posts   My forum buddies   Invite friends   Private messages Russian brides > Main Forum > Observations from Ukraine Author Post Adman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/29/2007 4:35:02 PM   Hi NBK The true reason I look for a russian woman is that there is not many attractive women in my own country. There are plenty of nice women but few to none that are attractive. The few attractive single women available have a hundred guys clammering at their door and you need to ask them why they can not find a man (many just choose not to be in a relationship). It is also far more difficult to date younger women in my country. My own daughter who is 21 thinks going out with a guy that is 24 is a large age difference. On russian dating sites attractive women will talk to you. The hope is to find the right one and build a relationship that you are both happy in. Obviously the risks with this are high. Your idea of finding a russian women locally is a good one. I almost only date russian women in my own country. The one Im dating now has EU citizenship, so I could be on to a winner there:) I liked the sound of "russian ladies...run abt the house" especially if Im chasing them, but I was wondering what you meant by "they r caring and warm to their husbands ...but not sincere with foreigners" ? Would a russian womean not make a good wife for a foreigner? nobodyknows Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/29/2007 5:08:57 PM   hi, i just wanted to say that she may be a good wife for u but only in she loves u:) but! if she marries u it doesnt necessarily mean she loves u. when she crosses the border and gets citizenship pf that country, love may vanish as if it never existed. of course it s just my personal opinion, and i dont want to impose it on others. besides, as i read somewhere on this forum marriage on the foreigner, moving to europe or the us is consedered to be a good chance to escape from severe reality of the fsu countries. el dorado:) so i dont think russian women think they will have to do too much work abt the house there:) As to physical looks, oh yeah, we r one of the most beautiful nations:)) and the way we dress makes us say ladies:) and if the woman is much younger, 15 and more yrs, and writes to a foregner it may last not too long (the love)... but to be objective one needs to know all the circumstances...so dont want to jump to any conclusions, trying to be a realist though:))) beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/29/2007 7:25:47 PM   Hi Nobody!!! I am glad to read about your thoughts of guys going to meet multiple girls on their trip. I would rather only see one and spend all time with her but the chances are very high that will not happen. You are right that more weight shopuld be put on it not working out. This letter writing, the longer it goes, develops into one or both putting high expectations on looks not to mention wondering about chemistry. Since my first trip, I have tried to meet more than one women and try to see only one in each city or two...maybe three at most. I don't offer to girls what I am doing but if they are smart and sincere, they should already know they are not only girl. Maybe because of my letters and my honesty, I never get asked if I will only see one girl on trip. A couple of girls have told me they expect guys to see more than one girl on a trip, they would rather I only saw them but did understand my reasoning. As far as meeting FSU girls already in my country, they act just like any american girl, lots of wants, particular about men( looks) and not as into the family situation. It is interesting you mention the girls in FSU countries are evolving into resembling european interests. I do have to say the beautiful girls is a big plus.....but I think the inner beauty is what comes across in the long run. Many guys are in just for the looks and that I think that is a plan for disaster. To meet a girl and a year later get married is crazy. How do you know a girl without spending lots of time with her. If it is right, time would not matter. I am curious what you think of my observations from my trip to Ukraine in this thread??? I hope you stay with us. I enjoy reading comments from someone with good experiences. I am sure I will learn many things from you. Adman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/29/2007 8:12:13 PM   Yeah Beemer It is this inner beauty that attracts us to the other side of the world, I forgot. It is a funny thing that when they arrive on American soil they loose this inner beauty. It must be the hamburgers and coca cola. They then loose the out beauty as well. )) beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/29/2007 8:29:16 PM   Addy........I do wonder how many guys lose their foreign wives because it was never love and it was merely going through the motions. My motto is.... easy come, easy go. To have a true relationship, you have to put in the time and get to know each other, that is where you find a girls inner beauty. If a girl is in it for the 'card', she will want to move fast. Question is who will move faster??? Girls don't lose their inner beauty, some guys only want trophies. They don't bother to know anything else. Then they wonder what happened. Of course, I do feel sorry for the guys that were really sincere and did all the right things and it doesn't work out but that could happen to anybody in any country...over 50% don't make it!! Adman Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/29/2007 8:48:13 PM   Beemer I was trying to explain why "FSU girls already in my country, they act just like any american girl," If it is not the hamburgers and coke, then I dont know. I wouldnt give up on the russian girls in your country. I have russian americans msg me and I find there inner beauty very attractive. beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/29/2007 8:58:52 PM   Addy.....wait until they meet you in person. That is where their inner beauty will rear its head and see your outer beauty and drop you like dime. I have met some russian girls here in LA, if I didn't know they grew up in russia I would have thought they were here their whole lives, talk about picky.......I'm sorry what did you say you were driving????? :)) aussieman41 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/29/2007 10:53:16 PM   The problem is there a lot of young FSU beauties under 30 on internet dating sites, by far most are in the 20 to 30 year age group and the average age is around 25 to 28 and its interesting to note my research on scammers at sites such as stopscammers which has more than 3000 scammers in there database and its updated weekly ( yes, scammmers are very much alive and active in 2007 just as in previous years ) and most of them, at least 85% are from the FSU countries and the average age on the FSU scammer profile is between 24 to 28, women in the 20s age group by far represent most of the scammers. With all these young 20 to 30 year old FSU beauties on internet dating sites with profiles of which are lot looking for up to 50 year old men ( or older ), it is easy to get fooled and caught up if you are 40 something or older man looking at these younger FSU women. The poppycock that some members here spread around here about age difference and FSU women wanting guys much older than themselves, I am talking 15 years or more age gaps and that it does not matter to them is wrong. They are the same as women from any other part of the world. Take a look on your own local dating sites in USA, U.K, Canada, Australia etc., you wont find 20 to 30 year old single girls wanting to date or have relationship with men 40 years or older, its very rare to see it in the profiles. What makes people think FSU women are any different than western girls when it comes to age difference. Wake up, there will be no real love between a 25 year old FSU women and a 40 plus or older Western man, she will just use you to get what she wants, easy ticket to new country and new life and then dump you and get all the spoils while you are left out of pocket and hurting. Make no mistake, young FSU girl with more than 10 years age difference and it gets more and more risky when it goes above 15 years, you will find by far most of these relationships/marriages will live fast and die hard..it just won't last. FSU women don't date guys in there own countries who are 15 years or older than themselves, most women won't, no matter where there from...generational age gaps don't work for a lasting relationship. Take a good look at the numbers, you a 45 year old western guy and marry a 25 year old FSU women, when your 60 and at retirement in everything, she will only be 40 and still have a lot of life left in her and can easily find another man, gee when your 50 she is in the prime of her life at 30 and at her best and she will dump your ass and easily find another guy, once she has used you up! The age numbers do not add up..large age gaps going beyond 10 years and over 15 years, very risky = relationship based on convenience to her ( to attain her goals and dreaams of a new life and riches ) which will be dead in less than 5 years at best. Wake up..stop dreaming( if you want young gil for sex if your an oldie go find a prostitute because thats all that will fook you..there will never be lasting relationship ). I did not waste my money going to the FSU and pursuing under 30 girls which is what most of this business is made up of. There is enough info out there and reports to draw an informed conclusion to this argument..theres no need to waste your money pursueing young FSU beauties by going there because you will end up in the long list of failures..these are the facts..its an old story! Maximum age difference is 10 to 15 years, under 10 years is best. Its best to quit this business, why do 14 trips to the Ukraine in pursuit of these women like Beemer has done, whats that about..it sounds like sex trips? Land of oz Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/29/2007 10:56:07 PM   Your dialog is very interesting to me nobodyknows. No my x wife was from the US. And of course when I say I have not met a compatible woman here I am not saying there is not one here. And I am not saying American women do not have the qualities you talk about in the FSU 15 years ago. And I am going to interpret what you said about FSU women as well as what I said about American women this way: The per cent of women who possess these qualities may be less than 15 years ago. Each woman is an individual and feelings and relationships must be judged that way. So the origin of the lady is not important to me, the qualities are. I am curious about 2 things from you. The first the incidents that you mentioned about guys getting cheated of course some are outright scammed but others the ones that make it through immigration and then split. Do you believe that this was the original intention of the lady or that she just did not find what she expected and this caused the split? If you would prefer to answer this privately to me rather than the public forum that is fine also. After you are logged in just click on the PM under my name The second I am curious what was the information you were looking for when you came here. Maybe someone can help you with that. beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/29/2007 11:36:55 PM   Aussie..thank you for telling me what is good for me. I am touched with your concern!!! After all you generalizations, I take nothing from your post. Everything you talk about is well known. I am only interested about myself and finding the right girl for me. I am not concerned with age but that is only for me. Every individual should have their own thoughts on that issue, what is good for one is not necessarily good for another. What business is it of yours how many trips I take. I've only taken 4 but if I get up to 20, who cares, it is not your time or money. If I want a sex trip, I would not go so far......I would be in central america or maybe just go around the corner!! Just because you quit this business, doesn't mean you take everyone else down with you. Since you are an internet junkie, tell me what percentage of girls under 30 that are NOT scammers? If the answer is not 0% then zip it and let me continue my search. nobodyknows Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/30/2007 4:55:55 AM   oh, beemer,yr observations r very positive, i dont know what to add:)if u expect my comments on the cities, i ve never been to odessa. kherson, nicolaev. only kharkov:) so never seen the girls from those cities, know nothing abt the train stations and airports:) what i know is just yr destination is always stated in the train ticket, and it s impossible to take a wrong train and dont know where u will arrive (as u wrote):) and the woman always checks yr destination when u board the train. and wakes u up. at least it s in russia, dont know abt ukraine:))) the guys here say u r a sex tourist. i dont think so. but-one more but (so many buts in my messages:))- havinf said i m not against that foreigners come to meet a few girls,i did not mean sex with all of them. it s different. i talked abt going out together, chats.. nobodyknows Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/30/2007 6:52:28 AM   hope the moderators will place my message that preceded the one already placed and i wont have to type it again:)))i ll be very grateful:) cause it s too exhausing to type all the comments again:) nasfan6 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/30/2007 7:07:27 AM   Beemer, Aussieman didn't quit this business, all he ever was is a keyboard Romeo. No fact, all fiction, never been there, never done it. All smoke and no fire. I like Aussieman how you go after guys who make many trips. Why don't you just make one, then you can talk with some kind of experience. You don't know what works between people over there. You've never been there. I have to agree with Beemer, since you were a failure as a Keyboard Romeo, you want to drag all down that you can. I bet if the truth be known you've been scammed out of a ton of money, but don't have the balls to admit it here, thats why you berate the women from Ukraine. The problem I think is your afraid to go there. I mean down deep you are afraid to leave the comfort of mommy and daddy and your home country. I mean if the Phillipines is so great how come you haven't got your ass on a plane there and writing on some Filipino forum and telling them all how screwed up they are looking for women in the PI. You bring nothing to this forum, no experience and no credibility. You are an internet worm and traveler. Google experience doesn't count in real life Aussieman. yorkie67 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/30/2007 8:55:12 AM   I have not been using this forum for too long, but I have to agree with both Beemer and Nas in their conclusions as to Aussieman. Ok, I know myself that there are a whole load of scammers out there, yes plenty, but I have never read such negative, pitiful whining as from Aussieman. And he has never even been to Ukraine or Russia!! Aussieman, do you realise what contempt other users of this site have for your negativity, yes NEGATIVITY. There is a difference between realism and just plain dull negativity. You demonstrate this perfectly. I suggest that you scramble out from the Outback, put your gear into a backpack and jump on a plane, then maybe your opinions may be worth a little more than just Koala dung! Rag'n'Bull Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/30/2007 9:03:51 AM   I had a Koala pee on me once, fortunately Koala's don't drink, but I'd rather have Koala pee than aussieman's crap anyday :) yorkie67 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/30/2007 9:13:07 AM   Oh Beemer, thanks for your earlier advice by the way in relation to the lady wanting to meet me outside of her own city. She has since agreed to meet me in her city, but then only days after I go and book a hotel for a few nights she goes and tells me she can only meet for one paltry evening. I have to admit I feel like cancelling the hotel and finding someone else on principle. Seems to me that if I can spend all that time travelling and the money it costs, if she was genuinely serious, she would want to meet for more than just a meal when I had previously told her how many days I would be there for! It does not matter how serious I am about her - the key to it all is what is going on inside her head. A puzzle way beyond anyone on this forum! However, any words of wisdom? Am really thinking of cancelling hotel, despite losing some money and just heading for a jaunt to Moldova for a few days instead. nobodyknows Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/30/2007 9:49:25 AM   i believe the post i wrote was not approved by the moderator , so i have to write it again, but a short one. Land of oz, i do believe the girl i mentioned and who cheated the canadian guy was not sincere from the very beginning. and all she needed was the citizenship of canada.the way she talked abt her husband is not a talk of the girl who is in love. i also heard (or saw on TV) that some russian women married foreigners and live happily, but they have a lot in common-the same interests, the same occupation. so i think it s possible to have a happy international marriage. and Land of oz, thanks for the intention to help me:)) i was looking for the job in istanbul.i visited the city a week ago and liked it a lot. one more reason is the guy i love(pr at least like a lot) and who lives there.so i was googling for that info and came across the topic abt the russian girls in istanbul on this forum. thats how i found this site. aussieman, i have smth to oppose to u. it s not true that women from the FSU never date guys older than they in their counties. i dont want to talk for all the women in the fsu, i wouls like to tell a bit abt myself. i m 24 yr old and since i was 15-18 i ve been always liked men 10-15 yrs older me.my exes r now 38-39.and we dated and hoped we would be happy. the guy i like a lot now and who lives in turkey is 41. of course sometimes i think such an age gap is not good, too big, and sometimes it scares me. but who knows what will happen in the future. how can one foresee the reason of splitting up? it s ipmossible. people with an age gap live together happily... why i date grown men? dont know. difficult to answer. but what i know for sure , aussieman, is not money and not "to attain her goals and dreaams of a new life and riches". beemer18 Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/30/2007 10:11:56 AM   Nobody....I was refering to observations regarding girls and what they might be thinking. Not all are open to telling me what is on their mind. I did wonder if they were taking me serious or not. It is the mindset that really makes me think and when you told me about girls now thinking more like european principles made me rethink my my thoughts. Do you think FSU girls are less inclined to leave their country? I know there has been talk here about girls being less inclined to leaving. Why do you think the internet is still being full of girls looking for marriage or their 'beloved', is just a business for girls? Nasfan....it is always same thing about aussieman, I only answered him because he spoke directly to me. I just hope anyone reading his posts just realize where he is coming from. nobodyknows Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/30/2007 10:43:47 AM   Beemer, i cant make any particular comments on yr dates with the girls cause not a lot was said abt them. so cant judge if they were serious towards u or not:) sorry, cant be helpful abt this point, as well as heard nothing abt that now girls r less inclined to leave. but there was talk on the forum abt the robust economy in the fsu countries. thats why i suppose russian girls (from russia, not ukraine) r rarely, in comparison with the ukrainians, met on such sites,and there s a small amount of any bride agencies that all of u know in ukraine. russia is richer and a more developing country . the income level is much more higher than it s in ukraine, thats the reason why we dont crave for international marriage and consider it to be an access to better life. but if there s love between u and yr girlfriend why not leave rusia (ukraine) then? nevertheless, the internet is popular among russians,it s a good way to meet more men, to get to know many faster (now i m talking abt local sites, where one can meet foreigners though) "beloved" may be business for girls. it s said a lt abt this problem. i just would like everyone of u to be more cautious, objective , and realists. nobodyknows Member send PM   block PM add to buddies Send: 10/30/2007 3:20:36 PM   yorkie, if i were u (though i m not a man)i would never cancel the trip. dont know how many days u r going to spend in Nikolaev, anyway , u could find some other girls on the internet and meet with them. if everything is arranged- tickets bought, hotel booked... u must go:) yr story reminds me my 2 month-ago-experience when on our local site i got to know the turk who suggested we meet in 2 weeks (in ukraine where he does not need a visa as a german citizen). when he came, i told him i would have to leave in a day, so he stayed alone for 2 days... and on his question if i had known before the date i would have to go, i said honestly- yes. how stupid!!!!! of course he said nothink, but was offended in his heart and interpreted it wrong- as though i did not like him. since that time everything went wrong... and the result is more clever girl from the crimea is dating him:) dont know why i wrote that:)) Your Reply: Your name:   New Registration Password:   Forgot password?   refresh Code:   Russian brides > Main Forum > Observations from Ukraine
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